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Retro 1260

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Well the 1260 format wheel has spun again. According to the LA Times the new format is called "Retro 1260". From what I can tell, it looks like a variation of Standards. Since I am in the OC, I'll have to check it out on the KKGO HD-3 channel. I wonder if 540 will track.
 
According to Don Barrett's LA Radio former KOST Midday jock Mike Sakellarides will be "live" from 8 am to 1 pm followed by Nick Tyler and Jeff Serr.
 
I think Nick Tyler has been through every incarnation of KKGO/KMZT except country because I remember him doing both classical and jazz on teh station .
 
SuperRadioFan said:
540 is said to program Spanish language religious programming.
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That is interesting, since there are all kinds of restrictions on religious programming of any kind in Mexico. Until fairly recently, it was prohibited, in fact.

If you can hear the station, let us know.

"By law religious associations may not own or administer broadcast radio or television stations; however, the Catholic Church owns and operates a national cable television channel. Government permission is required to transmit religious programming on broadcast radio or television, and permission is granted routinely. Between June 1, 2001, and May 15, 2002, the authorities approved 11,706 transmissions."

So it sounds like it is doable, but they may have to get permission for each program they run.
 
DavidEduardo said:
SuperRadioFan said:
540 is said to program Spanish language religious programming.
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That is interesting, since there are all kinds of restrictions on religious programming of any kind in Mexico. Until fairly recently, it was prohibited, in fact.

If you can hear the station, let us know.

"By law religious associations may not own or administer broadcast radio or television stations; however, the Catholic Church owns and operates a national cable television channel. Government permission is required to transmit religious programming on broadcast radio or television, and permission is granted routinely. Between June 1, 2001, and May 15, 2002, the authorities approved 11,706 transmissions."

So it sounds like it is doable, but they may have to get permission for each program they run.
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From Don Barrett's LARadio.com today: "Saul’s 540AM frequency will be a brokered Spanish language religious programming."

And I can receive the signal
 
Saul strikes again! It's good to see Mike back on somewhere.

I wonder when 540AM will flip to the Spanish religious format? As of 4:44 p.m. today, 540AM is simulcasting 1260AM.
 
Gotta have a good signal to do well with music on the AM side.

KGIL's signal is marginal, at best??

Best of luck Saul !
 
I love it! The "format wheel".

I come to LA on business 2-3 times each year. Next trip is in a couple of weeks. I had just been wondering earlier today what I'd hear this time on 1260 (and for that matter, 540). At least there's always something guaranteed to be different every time I'm in town. But if he's going with a standards-based format, why didn't he just strike a deal with Brad Chambers and plug into "Martini in the Morning"?
 
cyberdad said:
I love it! The "format wheel".

I come to LA on business 2-3 times each year. Next trip is in a couple of weeks. I had just been wondering earlier today what I'd hear this time on 1260 (and for that matter, 540). At least there's always something guaranteed to be different every time I'm in town. But if he's going with a standards-based format, why didn't he just strike a deal with Brad Chambers and plug into "Martini in the Morning"?
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Sounds as if the music will be some from the Great American Song Book, and also from the true Oldies. They already have the music libraries so taking Brad Chambers probably doesn't fit though he could be give a slot, his music being more in the Frank Sinatra / Dean Martin arena. What I wonder about was the picking up of Fred Thompson and Dr. Dean Edell for only a couple of weeks, sounds hokey to me. They could have kept Ziegler and dropped all of the talk at once. Thompson et al were probably the shortest lived things ever appearing on 1260. Too bad LA loses Glenn Beck, maybe KFWB will find a slot for him.
 
I Always That The Word RETRO refers to 1980's & 1990's Music? I Never Thought Of ADULT STANDARDS As RETRO?
 
airpab said:
Gotta have a good signal to do well with music on the AM side.

KGIL's signal is marginal, at best??

Best of luck Saul !
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The 20kw daytime signal on 1260 doesn't look too bad, although anytime when you are dealing with AM signals, you have many factors to consider that can have a negatve impact on the coverage unlike with FM. I wish KGIL the very best of success with this new format.

Mark Tillery
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Madmansam said:
I Always That The Word RETRO refers to 1980's & 1990's Music? I Never Thought Of ADULT STANDARDS As RETRO?
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"Retrospective" as a word just means 'looking back.' "Retro TV" usually means 50s and 60s. When we talk about new cars with a "retro" look (Mustang, Camaro, etc.) we're mostly talking 60s and 70s...so the word is certainly malleable.

Saul is probably hoping that the brand will encourage new people to tune in and check it out. If he gains a few Gen X listeners, who tune in and like it because they're curious about the brand, all the better.

RE: signal - being a "retro" listener who grew up in the 60s when KGIL was a popular MOR station - it seems like their signal was decent to good in most of the Valley, but weak at night on the south side of the mountains.
 
In 1965 I was in LA and KGIL was Adult Standards. I remember that the signal was poor compared to it's competition at 710. Why should this time work?
 
First of all it is the only game in town. Second, while there are not a lot of tuners, it is on KKGO-HD3. Third, The only format that has not made a return on 1260 lately is all Show Tunes (and think of the audience for that) :)
 
MsMusicRadio said:
In 1965 I was in LA and KGIL was Adult Standards. I remember that the signal was poor compared to it's competition at 710. Why should this time work?
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It's called "adult standards" now, but back then, the format was called MOR (Middle of the Road), and much of the music was brand new at the time. The listeners were in their 30s and 40s - members of the generation Tom Brokaw refers to in his book as the "greatest generation" because many of them fought in World War II. The parents of baby boomers, in other words.

As I remember it, MOR stations played pop music only as far back as the 50s - they rarely if ever played pre-war or Big Band music, and there was a lot of current hits from Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Perry Como, Jack Jones, etc.

There was a lot of competition within that format in the 60s -there were probably more MOR stations in LA than any other format - I'd guess that KMPC (710) was the highest rated, but at various times, the format included KHJ (pre "Boss"), KLAC, KNX in some day parts. Bob Crane was KNX's morning DJ before he got his big acting break with Hogan's Heroes, and his music was MOR. Rock and Top 40 was popular in those days, but did not dominate music radio by any means.

I don't know how high KGIL's ratings were (calling Michael Hagerty), but it was an excellent station with a considerable audience - at least in the San Fernando Valley. Personalities included the brilliant Dick Whittington (not to be confused with Dick Whittinghill on KMPC), Larry Van Nuys, and many other high profile DJs of that era. I'm blanking on the name of their very popular night-time DJ - my father loved him. He was reportedly Sinatra's favorite DJ, and Frank would stop by to visit on occasion.

Obviously, this is a very different era, but in that era, the station was a success, marginal signal, or not.
 
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