Retro: Albuquerque, Friday, May 3, 1974

[genius]

Source: Santa Fe New Mexican

KOB-TV 4 (NBC)
AM
6 Today
8 Dinah Shore
8:30 Jeopardy
9 Wizard of Odds
9:30 Hollywood Squares
10 Jackpot
10:30 Celebrity Sweepstakes
10:55 NBC News
11 Truth or Consequences
11:30 Three On A Match
PM
12 Days Of Our Lives
12:30 Doctors
1 Another World
1:30 How To Survive A Marriage
2 Merv Griffin
3 Green Acres
3:30 Lucy Show
4 Mission Impossible
5 News (Schedule doesn’t note NBC or local at 5 and 6)
5:30 I Dream of Jeannie
6 News
6:30 Hee Haw
7:30 Brian Keith
8 Dean Martin
9 National Geographic special: “Wild River”
10 News
10:30 Tonight
12 Midnight Special
1:30 News

KNME 5 (PBS)
AM
8:15 Prelude
8:30 French Chef
9 Electric Company
9:30 Performance
9:40 Sound-Go-Round
10 Sesame Street
11 Zoom
11:30 Mister Rogers
PM
12 Advocates
1 Color Bars
1:10 Music Kaleidoscope
1:30 Sound-Go-Round
1:50 Performance
2 Designing Woman
2:30 Hablemos Espanol
3 New Mexico Outdoors
3:30 Projections in Education
4 Sesame Street
5 Mister Rogers
5:30 Electric Company
6 UNM Reports
6:30 Lobo Lair
7 Aviation Weather
7:30 Wall Street Week
8 Washington Week In Review
8:30 Creative Process
9 Spanish Film

KOAT 7 (ABC)
AM
7:00 7 A.M. 7 (exactly as listed)
8:30 Galloping Gourmet
9 Dick Van Dyke
9:30 Brady Bunch
10 Password
10:30 Split Second
11 All My Children
11:30 Let’s Make A Deal
PM
12 Newlywed Game
12:30 Girl In My Life
1 General Hospital
1:30 One Life To Live
2 Movie: “Turn Curtain”
4 Petticoat Junction
4:30 Love, American Style
5 ABC News
5:30 Dragnet
6 News
6:30 Movie: “A Time For Every Season”
8:30 Odd Couple
9 Toma
10 News
10:30 Movie: “Someone At The Top Of The Stairs”

KGGM 13 (CBS)
AM
6 News
7 Captain Kangaroo
8 Joker’s Wild
8:30 Gambit
9 Now You See It
9:30 Love Of Life
9:55 CBS News
10 The Young and the Restless
10:30 Search for Tomorrow
11 My Favorite Martian
11:30 As The World Turns
PM
12 News
12:30 Forum 13
1 Price Is Right
1:30 Match Game
2 Tattletales
2:30 Edge Of Night
3 That Girl
3:30 Beverly Hillbillies
4 Bonanza
5 Hogan’s Heroes
5:30 News
6 CBS News
6:30 Good Times
7 Movie: “Terror On The Beach”
8:30 Pilot Film: “Mr. and Mrs. Cop”
9 Kojak
10 News
10:30 Movie: “The House That Dripped Blood”

 

[Braves2005]

When did KOB carry Sanford and Son since it was pre-empted on Friday nights for Hee Haw? I also noticed that KOB didn't carry Somerset either.

 

[genius]

When did KOB carry Sanford and Son since it was pre-empted on Friday nights for Hee Haw? I also noticed that KOB didn't carry Somerset either.

Good question!

Also missing is Guiding Light....

 

[bpatrick]

I'm always surprised to see Guiding Light missing
from these 1974 Albuquerque schedules. I know
that I went out there in '77, and that I used to
see the New Mexico edition of TV Guide regularly
when I lived in Texas (same time), and that Channel
13 was carrying GL by that time. Of course, in
'74 GL was on at noon (Mountain); in '77 it was on
at 12:30, so my guess is that 13 picked it up in
December '75 when As The World Turns went to
an hour (11:30-12:30), decided to delay ATWT (as it
does today), and put GL on after the noon news
(12:30).

 

[oldiesfan6479]

...and that I used to see the New Mexico edition of TV Guide regularly when I lived in Texas (same time)...

Since the NM edition was used across the state--and time zone--line, did the top of each listings page have a disclaimer stating the times were Mountain?

...decided to delay ATWT (as it does today)...

Can anyone with an inside to the KRQE-TV brain trust explain why they jumble the CBS daytime schedule so badly, flipping shows and airing ATWT on a one-day delay? Why not just run it in pattern 10-12 and 12:30-3 MT? Or if there's something sacred about Y&R being on at 1 and all the other jumbling, use the alternate feed of GL and air it in the morning (same-day) instead of ATWT (one day late...maybe...see next).

I was just about to state the same thing about KUTV Salt Lake City's daytime schedule, especially since it is a CBS O&O (but that never stopped WCBS-TV, WBZ-TV, et al, prior to the alt feed of GL) when I decided to compare ATWT story lines in the zap2it.com listings on Monday January 29 for ABQ, SLC and NYC.

The ATWT synopsis listed for WCBS-TV NYC at 2 ET (live feed) is the same as what is listed for KRQE-TV ABQ at 10 MT! Meanwhile, KUTV SLC at 11 MT shows a different story line which would indicate one-day behind.

So...CBS Air Control folks and CBS affil MCOs, how can ABQ air the same episode two hours before it's fed on the network? And if they have some pre-feed access trick up their sleeve, why doesn't the CBS O&O in SLC do the same thing? Or are the zap2it.com listings incorrect?

 

[genius]

Quite why many Mountain Time CBS stations air things out of pattern is unknown to me. Along with KRQE and KUTV, there is also KKTV(Colorado Springs) and the Montana&Idaho CBS stations. At one point when I lived in Denver KMGH(when it was CBS) started moving things around, putting Bold and the Beautiful a day-behind at 10, Price is Right at 10:30, News at 11:30, and then Young and the Restless at Noon. At one point they even picked up Loving(???) shifting the schedule around again.

I live in Albuquerque now, and as far as I know As The World Turns is a day-behind. KRQE's schedule outside of primetime use to be really screwy about 10 years ago before coming to their current line-up. I think the reason they put Young and the Restless at 1(as opposed to 3PM, when I first moved here) was to be more competitve for that timeslot, maybe; KRQE was stuck at #3 forever, and it's only within the last couple of years(snatching popular anchors from other stations, being bought by Lin TV) their fortunes have changed.

As for feeds, at one point NBC stations could air the soaps(when they had three) whenever they wanted without delays back in the late 90s. I think it still exists, but most NBC stations air them in pattern, although not for much longer since Zucker is gung-ho about cancelling soaps right now. 

Since the NM edition was used across the state--and time zone--line, did the top of each listings page have a disclaimer stating the times were Mountain?

As far as I know, I never saw such a disclaimer. The old NM edition carried El Paso stations, and El Paso is MT. There are a couple TX satellites in state-line towns, most notably KVIH in Clovis and KUPT in Hobbs, but no disclaimers for them.

 

[bpatrick]

If Channel 13 carried the morning feed of
Guiding Light they'd be airing it at either
7 AM or 8 AM (there are two morning feeds,
at 9 and 10 AM Eastern), much too early
for a soap.

As The World Turns is on the network at
12 Noon (Mountain), which is when a lot
of these Mountain stations have local news,
and there is no alternate feed. Y&R probably
is on at 1 for ratings reasons; to carry
the network feed would mean airing it at
either 10 or 10:30 AM (but in the '70s Y&R
came on in Albuquerque at 10--after
Love Of Life!). If KRQE doesn't want to
run ATWT at noon, it might make more sense
if it did what WTVF Nashville did up until last
fall: delay it until later in the afternoon.

I don't know why, for daytime, the networks
don't simply let the Mountain stations carry the
Pacific feeds (except for the early-morning shows);
Pacific follows Central time, so Mountain would be
on the same schedule as Eastern time (11 AM-4 PM,
with appropriate gaps). Any thoughts?

 

[oldiesfan6479]

If Channel 13 carried the morning feed of Guiding Light they'd be airing it at either
7 AM or 8 AM (there are two morning feeds, at 9 and 10 AM Eastern), much too early
for a soap.

To clarify: Not suggesting they air it live, just that they record the alternate morning feed of GL and air it in their current ATWT slot, with ATWT shifting to an afternoon slot.

It's been common knowledge on the board about the 10am ET alternate feed of GL, when did CBS begin offering the third (9am ET) feed?

As The World Turns is on the network at 12 Noon (Mountain)...Y&R probably is on at 1 for ratings reasons; to carry the network feed would mean airing it at either 10 or 10:30 AM

Or just air the whole daytime schedule in pattern on a one-hour delay. Y&R should be just as strong at 11 MT as at 1, and many CT/MT/PT affils air it in late morning (11 or 11:30 local). They could opt to flip TPIR with their syndie hour, airing TPIR "live" at 9 (as KPHO-TV PHX does).

I don't know why, for daytime, the networks don't simply let the Mountain stations carry the Pacific feeds (except for the early-morning shows); Pacific follows Central time, so Mountain would be on the same schedule as Eastern time (11 AM-4 PM,
with appropriate gaps). Any thoughts?

Don't get me started on "Pacific time plus one hour"--we have to deal with that from our stupid cable company in PHX (they would like me to mention their name...) that has this love affair with left coast feeds for cable nets. Cable prime in the winter, 9pm-midnight. Oooooh!

But back to the idea at hand. I don't think the stations would like it since they'd have to fill until 11, they wouldn't get a news window until 1, and they'd have only one hour in late afternoon for syndie product...if they had no newsers prior to Jive At Five.

Not sure if this still applies, but years ago the story was that the CBS affils in PHX and TUS could not just take the left coast satellite for daytime in the summer (where MST clock time matched the PDT feed) as the network would run some different spots aimed at the coast audience only. So KOOL-TV and KOLD-TV had to stay with their two-hour delay pattern off the NYC feed, along with a few spot "cut-ins" of their own from time to time (AZ was a big test market for some advertisers).

 

[bpatrick]

If Channel 13 carried the morning feed of Guiding Light they'd be airing it at either
7 AM or 8 AM (there are two morning feeds, at 9 and 10 AM Eastern), much too early
for a soap.

To clarify: Not suggesting they air it live, just that they record the alternate morning feed of GL and air it in their current ATWT slot, with ATWT shifting to an afternoon slot.

It's been common knowledge on the board about the 10am ET alternate feed of GL, when did CBS begin offering the third (9am ET) feed?

As The World Turns is on the network at 12 Noon (Mountain)...Y&R probably is on at 1 for ratings reasons; to carry the network feed would mean airing it at either 10 or 10:30 AM

Or just air the whole daytime schedule in pattern on a one-hour delay. Y&R should be just as strong at 11 MT as at 1, and many CT/MT/PT affils air it in late morning (11 or 11:30 local). They could opt to flip TPIR with their syndie hour, airing TPIR "live" at 9 (as KPHO-TV PHX does).

I don't know why, for daytime, the networks don't simply let the Mountain stations carry the Pacific feeds (except for the early-morning shows); Pacific follows Central time, so Mountain would be on the same schedule as Eastern time (11 AM-4 PM,
with appropriate gaps). Any thoughts?

Don't get me started on "Pacific time plus one hour"--we have to deal with that from our stupid cable company in PHX (they would like me to mention their name...) that has this love affair with left coast feeds for cable nets. Cable prime in the winter, 9pm-midnight. Oooooh!

But back to the idea at hand. I don't think the stations would like it since they'd have to fill until 11, they wouldn't get a news window until 1, and they'd have only one hour in late afternoon for syndie product...if they had no newsers prior to Jive At Five.

Not sure if this still applies, but years ago the story was that the CBS affils in PHX and TUS could not just take the left coast satellite for daytime in the summer (where MST clock time matched the PDT feed) as the network would run some different spots aimed at the coast audience only. So KOOL-TV and KOLD-TV had to stay with their two-hour delay pattern off the NYC feed, along with a few spot "cut-ins" of their own from time to time (AZ was a big test market for some advertisers).

I see your point about taping the GL morning feed. The 9 AM (ET) feed
began back in September, when WBZ Boston moved the show from 10 AM
to 9 in order to carry Rachael Ray at 10; WBZ is a CBS o&o. At the same time,
WKMG Orlando moved GL from 10 to 9, and two stations which were already
carrying it at 9 on a day-behind basis--WSBT South Bend and WGME Portland, ME,
were put on same-day.

The mechanics of this Mountain/Pacific thing are too complicated for my blood,
especially since Arizona stays on MST in the summer. But if the Mountain stations were allowed to take the Pacific feed, Y&R could still air at 12:30 (it's on in LA
at 11:30 Pacific) and the local news could still air at noon. Anyway, it was just an idea.

And I need to clarify something. I should have said "same year" instead of "same time" when I mentioned living in Texas and going to Albuquerque in '77. I may have implied I lived in El Paso; actually, I lived in Dallas which, of course, is Central time, one hour ahead of Albuquerque.

 

[Ultimajock]

...how far back did "The Val de la O Show" start production? It was an Albuquerque-based talk show that shifted between English and Spanish interviews and music. I recall it was syndicated in the early '80s and appeared in Chicago on WBBS-TV/60 on Sunday nights in 1984 just before the Spanish-tracked version of "Southwest Championship Wrestling"...

 

[JeeperOne]

Hi everyone:

Quite why many Mountain Time CBS stations air things out of pattern is unknown to me. Along with KRQE and KUTV, there is also KKTV(Colorado Springs) and the Montana&Idaho CBS stations. At one point when I lived in Denver KMGH(when it was CBS) started moving things around, putting Bold and the Beautiful a day-behind at 10, Price is Right at 10:30, News at 11:30, and then Young and the Restless at Noon. At one point they even picked up Loving(???) shifting the schedule around again.

Well...First off all....I believe ABC had asked KMGH 7 to carry Loving once it became very clear to ABC that KMGH wanted to sign with them instead of going with NBC since KUSA 9 wasn't even carrying it at all (Not even late at night or on a one day delay). That's why they did that.

Also, let's not forget KCNC 4's carrying of Search For Tomorrow in the awkward time slot of 10:30 AM back in the '80s when NBC first picked up the show from CBS. This was also at a time when KUSA 9 could barely make a go of carrying a morning soap opera with Ryan's Hope at that hour. In addition, many years later, KCNC 4 also carried Guiding Light on a one day delay at 9:00 AM, though this move didn't last long. As a result, the show is now back on at it's familiar 2:00 PM time slot.

Cheers

 

[oldiesfan6479]

Also, let's not forget KCNC 4's carrying of Search For Tomorrow in the awkward time slot of 10:30 AM back in the '80s when NBC first picked up the show from CBS.

In the move to NBC, wasn't SFT returned to it's longtime 12:30 ET slot?
So KCNC-TV would have taken the live feed at 10:30 MT.

 

[genius]

In the move to NBC, wasn't SFT returned to it's longtime 12:30 ET slot?
So KCNC-TV would have taken the live feed at 10:30 MT.

Good point, that's probably why KCNC did that I don't he took that into consideration lol.