Retro: Central/Eastern New York Mon, Nov 23, 1959

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from TV Guide-New York State edition
This edition listed most of the upstate markets, with the exception of Buffalo (Lake Ontario edition) and Plattsburgh (St Lawrence edition)

WKTV 2-ABC/CBS/NBC Utica
6:00 Continental Classroom (double bill)
7:00 Today
9:00 Cartoons
9:30 Good Living
10:00 Dough Re Mi
10:30 Treasure Hunt
11:00 Price is Right
11:30 Concentration
noon Truth or Consequences
12:30 It Could Be You
1:00 Playhouse 60
2:00 Queen for a Day
2:30 Thin Man
3:00 Young Dr Malone
3:30 From These Roots
4:00 House on High Street
4:30 American Bandstand
5:00 Movie "Remember the Day" (5 min weather break at 6:00)
6:30 News/Sports
6:45 Three Stooges
7:15 NBC News
7:30 Richard Diamond
8:00 Love & Marriage
8:30 Bourbon Street Beat
9:30 Goodyear Theater "Point of Impact"
10:00 Steve Allen
11:00 News/Weather/Sports
11:30 Jack Paar

WSYR 3-ABC/NBC Syracuse
6:00 Continental Classroom (double bill)
7:00 Today
9:00 All Star Theater
9:30 Ladies' Day
10:00 Dough Re Mi
10:30 Treasure Hunt
11:00 Price is Right
11:30 Concentration
noon Truth or Consequences
12:30 Jim Deline Gang
1:00 Movie "Chip Off the Old Block"
2:30 Thin Man
3:00 Young Dr Malone
3:30 From These Roots
4:00 House on High Street
4:30 Split Personality
5:00 Popeye
5:30 My Friend Flicka
6:00 Lawman
6:30 News/Sports/Weather
6:45 NBC News
7:00 Bold Venture
7:30 Cheyenne
8:30 Wells Fargo
9:00 Peter Gunn
9:30 Goodyear Theater "Point of Impact"
10:00 Steve Allen
11:00 News/Weather/Sports
11:30 Jack Paar

WROC 5-ABC/NBC Rochester
6:00 Continental Classroom (double bill)
7:00 Today
9:00 Ding Dong School
9:30 Burns & Allen
10:00 Dough Re Mi
10:30 Treasure Hunt
11:00 Price is Right
11:30 Concentration
noon Truth or Consequences
12:30 It Could Be You
1:00 Movie "Danger Woman"
2:00 RAETA Presents
2:30 Home Cooking
3:00 Young Dr Malone
3:30 From These Roots
4:00 House on High Street
4:30 Split Personality
5:00 Movie "The Fake"
6:30 News/Weather
6:45 NBC News
7:00 High Road
7:30 Manhunt
8:00 Love & Marriage
8:30 Wells Fargo
9:00 Peter Gunn
9:30 Goodyear Theater "Point of Impact"
10:00 Steve Allen
11:00 News/Weather/Sports
11:30 Jack Paar

WRGB 6-NBC Schenectady (and they did use their owner GE's logo in their TVG ads)
6:00 Continental Classroom (double bill)
7:00 Today
9:00 Home Fare
9:30 TV Schooltime
10:00 Dough Re Mi
10:30 Treasure Hunt
11:00 Price is Right
11:30 Concentration
noon Truth or Consequences
12:30 It Could Be You
1:00 Burns & Allen
1:30 Trader Van
2:00 Queen for a Day
2:30 Thin Man
3:00 Young Dr Malone
3:30 From These Roots
4:00 House on High Street
4:30 Split Personality
5:00 Satellite 6
5:45 Breadtime Stories
6:00 Quick Draw McGraw
6:30 Earle Pudney
6:45 News
6:55 Weather
7:00 Lock Up
7:30 Grand Jury
8:00 Love & Marriage
8:30 Wells Fargo
9:00 Peter Gunn
9:30 Goodyear Theater "Point of Impact"
10:00 Steve Allen
11:00 News/Weather
11:15 Movie "Shady Lady"

WCNY 7-ABC/CBS Watertown
8:00 CBS News
8:15 Captain Kangaroo
9:00 Grade 12 English
9:40 Grade 2 Math
10:00 Red Rowe (premiere)
10:30 On the Go
11:00 I Love Lucy
11:30 Theater
noon Love of Life
12:30 Search for Tomorrow
12:45 Guiding Light
1:00 Music Bingo
1:30 As the World Turns
2:00 For Better or Worse
2:30 House Party
3:00 Beat the Clock
3:30 Verdict is Yours
4:00 Brighter Day
4:15 Secret Storm
4:30 American Bandstand
5:00 Our Miss Brooks
5:30 Kiddies' Karnival
6:00 Life of Riley
6:30 Weather/News/Sports
6:45 CBS News
7:00 Leave It to Beaver
7:30 Masquerade Party
8:00 Texan
8:30 Sea Hunt
9:00 Danny Thomas
9:30 Ann Sothern
10:00 Phil Silvers (Sgt Bilko)
10:30 Goodyear Theater "Point of Impact"
11:00 News/Weather/Sports
11:15 Movie "Ghost Catchers"

WHEN 8-ABC/CBS Syracuse
7:00 Breakfast Bar
7:55 Take Five
8:00 CBS News
8:15 Captain Kangaroo
9:00 These Things We Share
9:10 Party Line
9:20 Magic Toy Shop
9:45 Gal Next Door
9:55 Take Five
10:00 Red Rowe (premiere)
10:30 On the Go
11:00 I Love Lucy
11:30 December Bride
noon Love of Life
12:30 Search for Tomorrow
12:45 Guiding Light
1:00 One for the Show
1:25 Take Five
1:30 As the World Turns
2:00 For Better or Worse
2:30 House Party
3:00 Millionaire
3:30 Verdict is Yours
4:00 Brighter Day
4:15 Secret Storm
4:30 Edge of Night
5:00 Movie "Havana Rose"
6:30 News/Sports/Weather
6:45 CBS News
7:00 Ozzie & Harriet
7:30 Masquerade Party
8:00 Texan
8:30 Father Knows Best
9:00 Danny Thomas
9:30 Ann Sothern
10:00 Hennesey
10:30 June Allyson
11:00 News/Weather/Sports
11:20 Movie "Somewhere I'll Find You"

WHEC/WVET 10-ABC/CBS Rochester
7:00 Mathematics
7:30 Pageant
8:00 CBS News
8:15 Captain Kangaroo
9:00 Movie: TBA
10:15 En avant, marche
10:30 On the Go
11:00 I Love Lucy
11:30 December Bride
noon Love of Life
12:30 Search for Tomorrow
1:00 Stage One "Christmas for Sweeney"
1:30 As the World Turns
2:00 For Better or Worse
2:30 House Party
3:00 Rochester: Where You Live
3:30 Verdict is Yours
4:00 Brighter Day
4:15 Secret Storm
4:30 Edge of Night
5:00 Ann's Attic
5:30 My Friend Flicka
6:00 Quick Draw McGraw
6:30 News/Weather
6:45 CBS News
7:00 Wyatt Earp
7:30 Sea Hunt
8:00 Texan
8:30 Father Knows Best
9:00 Danny Thomas
9:30 Ann Sothern
10:00 Hennesey
10:30 June Allyson
11:00 News/Weather/Sports
11:20 Movie "Ringside Maisie"

WTEN 10 & WCDA 41-CBS Albany/WCDC 19-CBS Adams
6:20 Elementary Subjects
6:45 Teacher Time
7:00 Three Stooges
7:45 Romper Room
8:15 Captain Kangaroo
9:00 Movie: TBA
10:30 On the Go
11:00 I Love Lucy
11:30 December Bride
noon Love of Life
12:30 Search for Tomorrow
12:45 Guiding Light
1:00 I Married Joan
1:30 As the World Turns
2:00 For Better or Worse
2:30 House Party
3:00 Millionaire
3:30 Verdict is Yours
4:00 Brighter Day
4:15 Secret Storm
4:30 Edge of Night
5:00 Three Stooges
5:30 Movie "Annie Oakley"
7:05 News/Weather
7:15 CBS News
7:30 Masquerade Party
8:00 Texan
8:30 Father Knows Best
9:00 Danny Thomas
9:30 Ann Sothern
10:00 Hennesey
10:30 June Allyson
11:00 News/Weather/Sports
11:15 Jack Paar

CKWS 11-CBC Kingston
12:30 Early Date
1:30 Almanac
2:00 Chez Helene
2:15 Nursery School Time
2:30 Open House
3:00 PM Party
3:30 Movie "Portia on Trial"
4:30 Let's Look
4:45 Science Around Us
5:00 Youth '60
5:30 Teen-Age Dance Party
6:00 News/Weather/Sports
6:15 Movie "Top Gun"
7:30 Don Messer
8:00 Danny Thomas (pre-release)
8:30 Riverboat
9:30 Jack Kane
10:30 Town Above
11:00 CBC/Local News

WNBF 12-ABC/CBS Binghamton
7:00 Ding Dong School
7:30 Breakfast Time
8:30 Captain Kangaroo
9:00 Treasure House
9:30 Edge of Night
10:00 Search for Tomorrow
10:15 Guiding Light
10:30 I Married Joan
11:00 Who Do You Trust?
11:30 December Bride
noon Three Stooges
12:25 News
12:30 Homemaking & You
12:45 Meet Your Neighbor
1:00 Heart of the Home
1:25 News
1:30 As the World Turns
2:00 Day in Court
2:30 Gale Storm
3:00 Beat the Clock
3:30 Verdict is Yours
4:00 Brighter Day
4:15 Secret Storm
4:30 American Bandstand
5:00 Popeye
6:00 News/Weather
6:15 Ralph Carroll
6:30 Detectives
7:00 Fashions for Milady
7:30 Cheyenne
8:30 Father Knows Best
9:00 Danny Thomas
9:30 Adventures in Paradise
10:30 June Allyson
11:00 News/Weather/Sports
11:20 Movie "Mother Wore Tights"

WAST 13-ABC Albany/WTRI 35-ABC Troy
7:00 Breakfast with Hoppy
9:00 Ding Dong School
9:30 Movie: TBA
11:00 Our Miss Brooks
11:30 Life of Riley
noon Restless Gun
12:30 Love That Bob!
1:00 Music Bingo
1:30 Medic
2:00 Day in Court
2:30 Gale Storm
3:00 Beat the Clock
3:30 Who Do You Trust?
4:00 American Bandstand
5:00 Little Lulu
5:30 My Friend Flicka
6:00 Movie "The House on 92nd Street"
7:25 News/Weather
7:30 Cheyenne
8:30 Bourbon Street Beat
9:30 Adventures in Paradise
10:30 This Man Dawson
11:00 Movie "Strange Cargo"

 

[Rob Jason]

A few interesting notes:

WROC 5-ABC/NBC Rochester

2:00 RAETA Presents

I wonder if this program is a precursor to public TV WXXI...Which I've heard used WROC's studios for educational TV way before WXXI went on the air in about 1965? Guessing RAETA stands for "Rochester Area Educational TV Association"...

Also....Did you notice that one of the two original affiliates of the NBC network, WRGB Schenectady, did not carry The Tonight Show?

And this guide does not list two stations: WINR channel 40, Binghamton's NBC affiliate, that went on the air in 1957; and WSYE/Elmira channel 18, that went on the air in 1956 as a "satellite" station of WSYR/Syracuse. Does anyone know what criteria, if any, TV Guide used to list or not list stations back then?

 

[radioman148]

Loved "I Married Joan".

 

[biggguy]

A few interesting notes:

WROC 5-ABC/NBC Rochester

2:00 RAETA Presents

I wonder if this program is a precursor to public TV WXXI...Which I've heard used WROC's studios for educational TV way before WXXI went on the air in about 1965? Guessing RAETA stands for "Rochester Area Educational TV Association"...

{/quote]

You're on the money with RAETA. RAETA also did production in the basement of the old East High School. RAETA "borrowed" time from the locals for programming, and later went to a closed-circuit system, which was used until WXXI signed on in 1966.

 

[radioman148]

>>
WRGB 6-NBC Schenectady (and they did use their owner GE's logo in their TVG ads)
6:00 Continental Classroom (double bill)
7:00 Today
9:00 Home Fare
9:30 TV Schooltime
10:00 Dough Re Mi
10:30 Treasure Hunt
11:00 Price is Right
11:30 Concentration
noon Truth or Consequences
12:30 It Could Be You
1:00 Burns & Allen
1:30 Trader Van
2:00 Queen for a Day
2:30 Thin Man
3:00 Young Dr Malone
3:30 From These Roots
4:00 House on High Street
4:30 Split Personality
5:00 Satellite 6
5:45 Breadtime Stories
6:00 Quick Draw McGraw
6:30 Earle Pudney
6:45 News
6:55 Weather
7:00 Lock Up
7:30 Grand Jury
8:00 Love & Marriage
8:30 Wells Fargo
9:00 Peter Gunn
9:30 Goodyear Theater "Point of Impact"
10:00 Steve Allen
11:00 News/Weather
11:15 Movie "Shady Lady"

I wonder which Steve Allen Show that was? He wasn't still hosting the Tonight Show and his Westinghouse show hadn't started yet. It wasn't Sunday night so it couldn't have been his weekly variety show--hmmm.

 

[Stanislav]

And this guide does not list two stations: WINR channel 40, Binghamton's NBC affiliate, that went on the air in 1957; and WSYE/Elmira channel 18, that went on the air in 1956 as a "satellite" station of WSYR/Syracuse.

I don't know about '59, but I'm pretty sure I've seen a TVG from a few years later that had one of those "for programs on 18 Elmira, see 3 Syracuse" sort of footnote in the channel lineup. Interesting that in some cases of passive repeaters with 100% duplication, TVG would handle it this way, and in other editions they would list both channel numbers by every program in the listings. Think of Albany NY 10/North Adams MA 19, or even stranger 30 New Britain CT/79 Torrington CT(W79AI) -- a rare case of a translator making it into the main listings even though (a)it duplicated the programming 100%, and (b)from what I've read, hardly anyone watched 79 anyway.

 

[oldiesfan6479]

WRGB 6-NBC Schenectady
10:00 Steve Allen

I wonder which Steve Allen Show that was? He wasn't still hosting the Tonight Show and his Westinghouse show hadn't started yet. It wasn't Sunday night so it couldn't have been his weekly variety show--hmmm.

The Steve Allen Plymouth Show
NBC, Monday 10-11 ET
September 1959-June 1960

Source: Brooks & Marsh

 

[radioman148]

WRGB 6-NBC Schenectady
10:00 Steve Allen

I wonder which Steve Allen Show that was? He wasn't still hosting the Tonight Show and his Westinghouse show hadn't started yet. It wasn't Sunday night so it couldn't have been his weekly variety show--hmmm.

The Steve Allen Plymouth Show
NBC, Monday 10-11 ET
September 1959-June 1960

Source: Brooks & Marsh

Hmmm I don't remember that one just the one on Sunday nights opposite Ed Sullivan & Maverick.
I wonder if they moved the Sunday night show to Monday for a year?

 

[BaltimoreJack]

From the WNBF-TV Binghamton list...7PM Fashions For Milady..with your host A. Murphy Drazen. That show was a classic. A full half hour commercial for Drazen's City of Fashion and downtown Binghamton store. IIRC..that show lasted well into the 1970's. A number of Binghamton area teens got their "big chance" when asked to model the stores various dress fashions on TV. The show was live (and looked it). Cheesy sets and the ever-shiny head of Murphy Drazen and his son Bruce chatting away about "today's brightest fashions". My mother was always convinced that if his father hadn't owned the store, that Bruce Drazen would have been pushing a broom to make a living instead of being on TV. Ahhh...good old live, loca & cheesy TV!! What a great memory!!
Thank-You!!

 

[BaltimoreJack]

And this guide does not list two stations: WINR channel 40, Binghamton's NBC affiliate, that went on the air in 1957; and WSYE/Elmira channel 18, that went on the air in 1956 as a "satellite" station of WSYR/Syracuse.

I don't know about '59, but I'm pretty sure I've seen a TVG from a few years later that had one of those "for programs on 18 Elmira, see 3 Syracuse" sort of footnote in the channel lineup. Interesting that in some cases of passive repeaters with 100% duplication, TVG would handle it this way, and in other editions they would list both channel numbers by every program in the listings. Think of Albany NY 10/North Adams MA 19, or even stranger 30 New Britain CT/79 Torrington CT(W79AI) -- a rare case of a translator making it into the main listings even though (a)it duplicated the programming 100%, and (b)from what I've read, hardly anyone watched 79 anyway.

WSYE-18 Elmira was a total funnel for WSYR-3 Syracuse except for local news. 18 operated it's own news department with Bruce Flaherty as their ND, and a gentleman by the name of Carl Proper was with them for a very long time. Essentially 18 would just rebroadcast 3's programming and then cut away for the news broadcasts.

 

[oldiesfan6479]

I wonder if they moved the Sunday night show to Monday for a year?

Brooks & Marsh infer that, yes. Also the last season for Steverino on NBC,
the appended title due to full sponsorship, and the show origination moved
from NYC to El Lay.

His ABC show (Wednesday 7:30/6:30) ran from September-December 1961
and the Westinghouse syndie 1962-1964.

 

[radioman148]

I wonder if they moved the Sunday night show to Monday for a year?

Brooks & Marsh infer that, yes. Also the last season for Steverino on NBC,
the appended title due to full sponsorship, and the show origination moved
from NYC to El Lay.

His ABC show (Wednesday 7:30/6:30) ran from September-December 1961
and the Westinghouse syndie 1962-1964.

Thanks for the info on Steverino.

 

[Rob Jason]

WSYE-18 Elmira was a total funnel for WSYR-3 Syracuse except for local news. 18 operated it's own news department with Bruce Flaherty as their ND, and a gentleman by the name of Carl Proper was with them for a very long time. Essentially 18 would just rebroadcast 3's programming and then cut away for the news broadcasts.

Yes, I worked with Carl in the earlier part of this century. A gentleman through and through. He was the kind of guy who would actually jump in and do studio camera, if need be (even though he was the 6Pm anchor!). He came from the era when, if you worked at a TV station, you knew how to do EVERYTHING. Bruce, though he had retired by then, used to drop by the station now and then.

Carl retired a couple years ago.
18's studio was at the top of Hawley Hill, at their transmitter site. Carl told me proudly that they once covered breaking news "live" in the 50's: A grass fire outside their studio. They just pointed a camera out the garage doors!
They got their signal from Syracuse via those old relay towers at the top of Connecticut Hill, outside Ithaca.

When I worked at ch. 3, an old-timey director showed me an 11PM newscast rundown from the 1960s. They had to time everything to end at ten minutes after the hour -- because that is when WSYE would break away and run the local Elmira news.
WSYE also did a local talk show called "Monday, Monday" (on Mondays, obviously). Carl told me they had one reel of 2" videotape to record that show -- and just reused it again and again and again.

 

[BaltimoreJack]

The signal traveled on those old & always-exciting Eastern Microwave relays!