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Retro: Central New York Sun, May 26, 1974

from TV Guide-Central NY State edition

WGR 2-NBC Buffalo
6:30 Insight
7:00 Ecumedia News
7:15 Church Invitation
7:30 Day of Discovery
8:00 I Believe in Miracles
8:30 Dr. Jerry Falwell
9:30 Rex Humbard
10:30 Garner Ted Armstrong
11:00 Oral Roberts
11:30 Rev. James Andrews
noon Inquiry
12:30 Meet the Press
1:00 Take a Look
1:30 Animal World
2:00 Other People, Other Places
2:30 Wild, Wild World of Animals
3:00 Family Circle Tennis Tournament (Singles final: Chris Evert v Kerry Melville; Doubles final: Rosie Casals/Olga Morozova v Karen Krantzcke/Helene Gourlay)
4:30 Movie "My Six Loves"
6:30 News
7:00 Wild, Wild World of Animals
7:30 Wonderful World of Disney "The Whiz Kid and the Mystery at Riverton" (conclusion)
8:30 Columbo
10:00 NBC News: Special Edition (fight over cancer research funds, Detroit's murder rate, young convicts being paroled to return to college)
11:00 News
11:30 Tonight Show
1:00 Open Rap
1:30 With This Ring

WSYR 3-NBC Syracuse (and WSYE 18-Elmira)
7:00 This is the Life
7:30 Faith for Today
8:00 Music & the Spoken Word
8:30 Gospel Caravan
9:00 Our Community
9:30 Movie "Our Little Girl"
10:30 Movie "Flame of Barbary Coast" (bw)
noon News & Views: Black Perspective
12:30 Meet the Press
1:00 Movie "Trapeze"
3:00 Family Circle Tennis Tournament
4:30 Movie "Dodge City"
6:30 NBC Nightly News
7:00 Wild Kingdom
7:30 Wonderful World of Disney
8:30 Columbo
10:00 NBC News: Special Edition
11:00 News
11:30 Movie "The Kentuckian"
1:30 News

WBEN 4-CBS Buffalo
8:00 Wonderful World of Kids
9:00 Bailey's Comets
9:30 Amazing Chan & the Chan Clan
10:00 Lamp Unto My Feet
10:30 Look Up & Live
11:00 Concerns
11:30 Life Around Us
noon News
12:15 Newsmaker
12:30 Face the Nation
1:00 Movie "The Constant Husband"
2:30 CBS Tennis Classic (Arthur Ashe v Cliff Drysdale)
3:30 CBS Sports Spectacular (International Hall of Fame Diving Meet/Grand Prix of Rome Equestrian Show)
5:30 Sports Quiz
6:00 60 Minutes
7:00 Thrillseekers
7:30 Apple's Way
8:30 Mannix
9:30 Barnaby Jones
10:30 By the People
11:00 News
11:30 Movie "Joy in the Morning"

WHEN 5-CBS Syracuse
8:00 Day of Discovery
8:30 Oral Roberts
9:00 Bailey's Comets
9:30 Amazing Chan & the Chan Clan
10:00 Karamu
10:30 Mass for Shut-Ins
11:00 Public Affairs
11:30 Jewish Journal
noon Straight to the Source
12:30 Face the Nation
1:00 CBS Sports Specatcular (US-USSR amateur boxing)
3:00 Persuaders
4:00 Movie "Tarzan and the Valley of Gold"
6:00 60 Minutes
7:00 News
7:30 Apple's Way
8:30 Mannix
9:30 Barnaby Jones
10:30 Protectors
11:00 News
11:30 Movie "Joy in the Morning"

WNEW 5-Ind New York
6:00 Rev. Cleophus Robinson
6:30 Wonder Window
7:00 Daktari
8:00 Wonderama
11:00 Flintstones (x2)
noon Movie "Let's Go Navy" (bw)
1:00 Movie "Across the Wide Missouri"
2:30 Movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" (bw)
4:00 Golf: Danny Thomas Memphis Classic
6:00 Movie "Viva Zapata" (bw)
8:00 Lawrence Welk
9:00 National Geographic "America's Wonderlands: The National Parks"
10:00 News
10:30 Sports Extra
11:00 Gabe Pressman
11:30 David Susskind
1:30 Peyton Place

WWNY 7-CBS/NBC/ABC Watertown
8:45 Cartoons
9:30 Amazing Chan & the Chan Clan
10:00 Lamp Unto My Feet
10:30 Look Up & Live
11:00 Day of Discovery
11:30 This is the Life
noon Face the Nation
12:30 Movie "It Happened One Summer"
2:30 CBS Tennis Classic
3:30 Name of the Game (2 hrs)
5:30 Lassie
6:00 60 Minutes
7:00 News
7:30 Apple's Way
8:30 Mannix
9:30 Barnaby Jones
10:30 CBS News
10:45 News
11:00 Movie "Tender is the Night"

WKBW 7-ABC Buffalo
6:30 Herald of Truth
7:00 Christopher Closeup
7:30 Directions
8:00 Sunday Surprise
8:30 Captain Noah
9:00 Kid Power
9:30 Rocketship 7
10:30 Osmonds
11:00 H.R. Pufnstuf
11:30 Make a Wish
noon Movie "Blackbeard, the Pirate"
2:00 Challenge
2:30 Issues & Answers
3:00 Movie "Seven Seas to Calais"
5:00 World Invitational Tennis Classic (Men's doubles final: Rod Laver/John Newcombe v Stan Smith/Arthur Ashe)
6:00 News
6:30 Lawrence Welk
7:30 FBI
8:30 Indianapolis 500
10:30 Great Mysteries "La Grande Breteche"
11:00 News
11:30 Movie "The Other Man"
1:25 Sunday Surprise
1:55 ABC News

WROC 8-NBC Rochester
8:00 Faith for Today
8:30 This is the Life
9:00 Oral Roberts
9:30 Rex Humbard
10:30 Hour of Power
11:30 Sen. Jacob Javits
11:45 Congressional Report
noon Celebrity Bowling (Mike Lookinland/Susan Olsen v Eric Scott/Mary Elizabeth McDonough)
12:30 Meet the Press
1:00 Pro Football Championship Games
1:30 Celebrity Tennis
2:00 Other People, Other Places
2:30 TBA
3:00 Family Circle Tennis Tournament
4:30 Duty Bound (Emmy-winning drama about a man charged with draft evasion)
5:30 It Takes a Thief
6:30 NBC Nightly News
7:00 Wild Kingdom
7:30 Wonderful World of Disney
8:30 Columbo
10:00 NBC News: Special Edition
11:00 News
11:30 Tonight Show

WNYS 9-ABC Syracuse
7:00 Insight
7:30 Voice of Victory
8:00 Rex Humbard
9:00 Cliff Alexander: Black on White
9:30 Open Line
10:00 Hour of Power
11:00 Square Off
11:30 It's Academic (students from Baldwinsville, Geneva and Notre Dame (Elmira); WKBW had their own version Sat 7pm)
noon Community Forum
1:00 Big Valley
2:00 Movie "Torn Curtain"
4:00 Movie "The Producers"
6:00 News
6:30 Issues & Answers
7:00 Treasure Hunt
7:30 FBI
8:30 Indianapolis 500
10:30 Evil Touch
11:00 News
11:30 Movie "Rebus"
1:15 ABC News

WOR 9-Ind New York
7:30 Christopher Closeup
8:00 Davey & Goliath (x2)
8:30 Day of Discovery
9:00 Oral Roberts
9:30 Right Now
10:00 Sunday Mass
10:30 Point of View
11:00 Rex Humbard
noon Hour of Power
1:00 Wanted: Dead or Alive (bw)
1:30 Baseball: Mets-Pittsburgh
4:00 Celebrity Bowling
4:30 Movie "Montana"
6:00 Movie "The Day of the Triffids"
8:00 Department S
9:00 Meet the Mayors
9:30 Norman Vincent Peale
10:00 Garner Ted Armstrong
10:30 Movie "All the King's Men" (bw)
12:30 News

WHEC 10-CBS Rochester
8:00 Summer Semester "The American Presidency: The Man & the Office"
8:30 Mass for Shut-Ins
9:00 Bailey's Comets
9:30 Vision On
10:00 Lamp Unto My Feet
10:30 Look Up & Live
11:00 Camera Three
11:30 Norman Vincent Peale
noon Face the Nation
12:30 Movie "The Girl Who Knew Too Much"
2:30 CBS Tennis Classic
3:30 CBS Sports Spectacular (same coverage as WIVB 4)
5:30 Minority Report
6:00 60 Minutes
7:00 Let's Make a Deal
7:30 Apple's Way
8:30 Mannix
9:30 Barnaby Jones
10:30 News
10:45 CBS News
11:00 Movie "Coffee, Tea or Me?"
12:30 Pilot Film "Young Love" (first shown on Doris Day in 1971)

CKWS 11-CBC Kingston
8:30 Ontario Schools
10:30 Harrigan
11:00 Wild Kingdom
11:30 Horst Koehler
noon Hymn Sing
12:30 Rex Humbard
1:30 Country Canada
2:00 World We Live In
2:30 Canadian Synchronized Swimming Championships
3:00 Badminton: Canada v Mexico
4:00 Youth Confrontation
4:30 Arts 1974
5:00 Music to See
5:30 Gospel Singin' Time
6:00 Wonderful World of Disney (same episode as NBC)
7:00 Beachcombers
7:30 Waltons
8:30 Charlie Chaplin Theatre (bw) "A Dog's Life"/"Shoulder Arms"/"The Pilgrim"
11:00 CBC News
11:15 Provincial Affairs
11:20 News
11:45 Movie "For the Love of Mike"

CHCH 11-Ind Hamilton
7:30 Rev. Max Solbrekken
8:00 Garner Ted Armstrong
8:30 I Believe in Miracles
9:00 Oral Roberts
9:30 Portuguese Telejournal
10:00 Italian Panorama
11:30 Father Meehan
noon News
12:15 Business Report
12:30 It is Written
1:00 Crossroads
1:30 Health & the Community
2:00 Flip Wilson (from 1972: guests Burt Reynolds, Tim Conway and Roberta Flack)
3:00 Chase
4:00 Room 222
4:30 Tiny Talent Time
5:00 Wild Kingdom
5:30 Adam-12
6:00 Emergency!
7:00 Hec Ramsey
8:30 Mannix
9:30 Barnaby Jones
10:30 Happy Days
11:00 News
11:30 Health Care Today

WPIX 11-Ind New York
7:00 Christopher Closeup
7:15 Davey & Goliath
7:30 Let's Have Fun
8:30 Movie "Ghosts on the Loose" (bw)
9:30 Addams Family (bw)
10:00 I Dream of Jeannie
10:30 Father Knows Best (bw)
11:00 F Troop (bw)
11:30 Movie "It Ain't Hay" (bw)
1:00 Baseball: Baltimore-Yankees
3:30 Abbott & Costello
4:00 Movie "Zanzabuku"
5:00 Movie "A Walk in the Sun" (bw)
7:00 Star Trek
8:00 News
8:30 Equal Time
9:00 Suburban Closeup
9:30 Puerto Rican New Yorker
10:00 Focus New Jersey
10:30 Black Pride
11:00 Perry Mason (bw)
mid. Encounter
12:30 Twilight Zone (bw)

WBNG 12-CBS Binghamton
7:00 Captain Noah
7:30 Old Time Gospel Hour
8:30 Oral Roberts
9:00 Rex Humbard
10:00 Church Day
10:30 Celebration & Sacrifice
11:00 Day of Discovery
11:30 Down Memory Lane
noon Face the Nation
12:30 Your Senators Report
1:00 Movie "African Treasure" (bw)
2:30 CBS Tennis Classic
3:30 Sports Special
4:00 TBA
6:00 60 Minutes
7:00 Thrillseekers
7:30 Apple's Way
8:30 Mannix
9:30 Barnaby Jones
10:30 Susquehanna Country Report
11:00 CBS News
11:15 News
11:45 Movie "None But the Brave"

WOKR 13-ABC Rochester
7:20 Meditations
7:30 Mormon Tabernacle Choir
8:00 I Believe in Miracles
8:30 Good News
9:00 Day of Discovery
9:30 Cartoons
10:00 Kid Power
10:30 Osmonds
11:00 H.R. Pufnstuf
11:30 Focus
noon Green Thumb
12:30 Black Dimensions
1:30 Issues & Answers
2:00 Movie "The Mind of Mr. Soames"
3:35 Movie "The Pad (and How to Use It)"
5:00 World Invitational Tennis Classic
6:00 News
6:30 Civilisation "The Great Thaw"
7:30 FBI
8:30 Indianapolis 500
10:30 Thrillseekers
11:00 News
11:30 Movie "The Young Philadelphians" (bw)
2:05 ABC News

CJOH 13-CTV Ottawa (and 6 Deseronto)
6:30 University of the Air "Animals in Contemporary Society"/"Prince Edward Island"/"The Arts & Sciences of Scuba"
8:00 Bail Out
9:00 Death Valley Days
9:30 Count of Monte Cristo
10:00 I Believe in Miracles
10:30 It is Written
11:00 Rex Humbard
noon Red Fisher
12:30 Regional Contact
1:00 Movie "Run Wild, Run Free"
2:55 Heritage Highways
3:00 Question Period
3:30 Indianapolis 500
5:30 News
6:00 National Geographic (travelling through Alaska with NG staffer Bill Garrett and his family)
7:00 Brady Bunch
7:30 Sonny & Cher (guests Joe Namath and the Righteous Brothers)
8:30 Columbo
10:00 W5
11:00 CTV National News
11:20 Sportsline
11:30 News
mid. Merv Griffin

WNPE 16-PBS Watertown
4pm Season of Gilbert & Sullivan for All
5:00 Advocates
6:00 Wall Street Week
6:30 Antiques
7:00 Zoom
7:30 Nova (Anasazi Indians)
8:30 Who's Afraid of Opera? "Faust"
9:00 Masterpiece Theatre "Upstairs, Downstairs" (pt 6)
10:00 Firing Line

WXXI 21-PBS Rochester
1:30pm Taking Better Pictures
2:00 Washington Straight Talk
2:30 Consultation
3:00 Movie "Passage to Marseille" (bw)
5:00 Men Who Made the Movies
6:00 TV Garden Club
6:30 Antiques
7:00 Zoom
7:30 Nova
8:30 Barenboim on Beethoven
9:00 Masterpiece Theatre
10:00 Firing Line
11:00 People Just Don't Whistle Anymore

WCNY 24-PBS Syracuse
4pm Season of Gilbert & Sullivan for All
5:00 Advocates
6:00 TV Garden Club
6:30 Antiques
7:00 Zoom
7:30 Nova
8:30 Who's Afraid of Opera? "Faust"
9:00 Masterpiece Theatre
10:00 Firing Line
 
I think this was the era when CBS and ABC gave sunday nights at 10:30 to the affliates -- that lasted only a year or two -- but note the CBS news running at 10:30??? What's up with that?
 
Rob Jason said:
I think this was the era when CBS and ABC gave sunday nights at 10:30 to the affliates -- that lasted only a year or two -- but note the CBS news running at 10:30??? What's up with that?

This was most likely their late-night newscast, which would later be fed at 11PM and seen on most affiliates after their late newscasts.
 
I find it interesting that the Indianapolis 500 was shown on tape delay at 3:30 p.m. on CJOH-13 while it was shown on tape delay at 8:30 p.m. on ABC affilates.

It was my understanding that ABC didn't have live coverage of the Indianapolis 500 back then so it could edit out any horiffic crashes that may occur during the race.

Were other major car races such as the Daytona 500 shown on tape delay by the networks back then due to the same concerns that ABC had about showing live auto racing?
 
I gotta wonder why the Central N. Y. TV Guide edition would list a Binghamton and the Buffalo stations but not WKTV & WUTR-TV in Utica. As I remember, the Central N. Y. edition was mainly Syracuse and Utica stations in black and the rest in white.
 
azumanga said:
Rob Jason said:
...but note the CBS news running at 10:30??? What's up with that?

This was most likely their late-night newscast, which would later be fed at 11PM...

During the four seasons (71-72 through 73-74) when CBS ended prime at 10:30 ET,
I can't tell you whether or not the CBS Sunday Night News was fed in each quarter
hour from 10:30-11:30, however in seasons prior to and after these when prime ran
until 11, the newscast was fed at 11 and 11:15.
 
ohdxer said:
I find it interesting that the Indianapolis 500 was shown on tape delay at 3:30 p.m. on CJOH-13 while it was shown on tape delay at 8:30 p.m. on ABC affilates.

It was my understanding that ABC didn't have live coverage of the Indianapolis 500 back then so it could edit out any horiffic crashes that may occur during the race.

Were other major car races such as the Daytona 500 shown on tape delay by the networks back then due to the same concerns that ABC had about showing live auto racing?

I believe Daytona was on tape delay also.
 
therealjm12 said:
I gotta wonder why the Central N. Y. TV Guide edition would list a Binghamton and the Buffalo stations but not WKTV & WUTR-TV in Utica. As I remember, the Central N. Y. edition was mainly Syracuse and Utica stations in black and the rest in white.

In those days, CHCH and the Buffalo stations had white bullets with CJOH, NYC and WBNG using the "cable" (/x/)(x/x) bullets. Pretty well everyone else had black bullets. The channel guide also mentioned that WCBS was carried in some areas after 1am, but no listings were provided...
 
therealjm12 said:
I gotta wonder why the Central N. Y. TV Guide edition would list a Binghamton and the Buffalo stations but not WKTV & WUTR-TV in Utica. As I remember, the Central N. Y. edition was mainly Syracuse and Utica stations in black and the rest in white.
TV Guide had a "Southern Tier" Edition that listed Binghamton & Elmira/Corning. No one in UpState NY in their right mind would call Buffalo "Central NY". Central NY is Syracuse/Utica-Rome. Gotta be posted by somebody from NoooYawk City. Their vision of anything north of Yonkers was always completely screwed up.
 
BaltimoreJack said:
therealjm12 said:
I gotta wonder why the Central N. Y. TV Guide edition would list a Binghamton and the Buffalo stations but not WKTV & WUTR-TV in Utica. As I remember, the Central N. Y. edition was mainly Syracuse and Utica stations in black and the rest in white.
TV Guide had a "Southern Tier" Edition that listed Binghamton & Elmira/Corning. No one in UpState NY in their right mind would call Buffalo "Central NY". Central NY is Syracuse/Utica-Rome. Gotta be posted by somebody from NoooYawk City. Their vision of anything north of Yonkers was always completely screwed up.

I'm actually from Eastern Canada :D. I just posted what the edition listed...my guess is that the Buffalo channels must have been on cable in parts of the edition area. I've also seen Buffalo stations listed in the Rochester edition too.
 
Bluenoser said:
BaltimoreJack said:
therealjm12 said:
I gotta wonder why the Central N. Y. TV Guide edition would list a Binghamton and the Buffalo stations but not WKTV & WUTR-TV in Utica. As I remember, the Central N. Y. edition was mainly Syracuse and Utica stations in black and the rest in white.
TV Guide had a "Southern Tier" Edition that listed Binghamton & Elmira/Corning. No one in UpState NY in their right mind would call Buffalo "Central NY". Central NY is Syracuse/Utica-Rome. Gotta be posted by somebody from NoooYawk City. Their vision of anything north of Yonkers was always completely screwed up.

I'm actually from Eastern Canada :D. I just posted what the edition listed...my guess is that the Buffalo channels must have been on cable in parts of the edition area. I've also seen Buffalo stations listed in the Rochester edition too.

I grew up about 12 miles southeast of Rochester, where both the Buffalo and Syracuse stations were watchable (although 9 in Syracuse was a tough catch on the antenna because it was squeezed between Rochester's 8 and 10). Most of the time, our stores stocked the Western NY edition but it was not unusual to get the Central NY edition instead. Obviously, the distribution boundary must have been close to my home. Cable didn't arrive in a big way in the Rochester suburbs until 1976 and offered the 3 Buffalo VHFs and only 1 Syracuse VHF (channel 3).
 
I suppose the Bingo & Buffalo signals could have been carried by some cable company or other within Central NY which would account for them being in that book, because as I said before, no one in Upstate would ever consider Buffalo or Binghamton to be part of "Central" NY>
 
At the time of these listings exactly how far south ( in Pennsylvania ) did these stations ( Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Binghamton ) reached?

I can remember seeing TV listings from the 70s in some of the smaller Pennsylvania newspapers like Breezewood ( between Altoona & Harrisburg ) and oddly they had listings in the paper for Buffalo's WKBW ( I dont see how WKBW-TV was able to reach that far south..not far from the Maryland state line ).

One of my dad's friends back in the 70's owned land in Gibson, PA ( between Binghamton and Scranton ) and I can remember him telling me how TV signals were "better then than they are today", going on to tell me at one time in the 70s until the early 80s, he was able to pick up NYC, Rochester, Syracuse, Binghamton, Harrisburg-Lancaster and Wilkes Barre-Scranton stations right there in Gibson. Again like WKBW-TV "in" Breezewood, I don't see how this was possible either.

Last time I was in Gibson ( 2004 ) I was lucky just to pick up Binghamton's WBNG-TV and nothing from Scranton or Wilkes Barre..much less Rochester.
 
^^^
Actually depending where you are located in Gibson you're sitting up on top of the world. WBNG (Actually WNBF-TV 50's, 60's early 70's) was very powerful and I've often said you could pick it up on a toaster, and was easily watchable off the air in a lot of places just over the NY/PA border. There are certain spots in that area you are talking about where certain NYC & Philly VHF's could be picked up with a good outside antenna. Back in the 70's when cable was coming around and all the various cable-only offerings of today didn't yet exist, cable companies brought in stations from outside their area, so it wasn't unlikely to see stations from Buffalo listed somewhere down in PA, or some Baltimore station or a few NYC or Philly independents across any number of states. Back then seemed like it was real "uptown" if you had a cable system that brought in WNEW or WOR.
 
I don't know if it still is, but until at least 2002 WKBW/7 from Buffalo was available on Corning cable -- likely grandfathered in from before ABC affiliate WENY/Elmira went on the air. Buffalo's media reach used to be quite pronounced -- in the late 40s, it was market #14.

And I wish I could remember the website where I read this -- but in about 1950, the Johnstown, PA station was allegedly getting video relayed from WBEN/4 in Buffalo! I wonder if they picked it up off-air...

And keep in mind, back then the CNY edition of TV Guide probably listed Buffalo because the western portion of CNY -- around Canandaigua -- could receive Buffalo TV signals. I know someone who grew up in Steuben County, and in the 50s the only TV they got was from Buffalo (without cable).
 
A couple of the Buffalo stations had a pretty deep reach into northern Pennsylvania by virtue of very tall antennas located in the Boston Hills south of town--both channel 4 and channel 7 were running 100 kW ERP from antennas 1200 feet above average terrain (4) or as high as 1400 feet AAT (7). Those signals came in almost like locals as far north as Toronto, and south deep into the Southern Tier. 7 could be picked up, though fuzzily, even in the center of Rochester with a rabbit ears--all you had to do is turn the antenna on top of your set to the side, to screen out the local signal on channel 8 from Pinnacle Hill.
 
Bob1370 said:
A couple of the Buffalo stations had a pretty deep reach into northern Pennsylvania by virtue of very tall antennas located in the Boston Hills south of town--both channel 4 and channel 7 were running 100 kW ERP from antennas 1200 feet above average terrain (4) or as high as 1400 feet AAT (7). Those signals came in almost like locals as far north as Toronto, and south deep into the Southern Tier. 7 could be picked up, though fuzzily, even in the center of Rochester with a rabbit ears--all you had to do is turn the antenna on top of your set to the side, to screen out the local signal on channel 8 from Pinnacle Hill.

Growing up in Rochester in the 60s, I remember in addition to the locals, picking up 2 and 4 from Buffalo and 3 and 5 from Syracuse with just rabbit ears (remember those old Rembrandt rabbit ears- I don't think they ever got any better!).

I also remember in about 1964, because of multipath problems where we lived, my father put up a rooftop antenna with a remote rotor... all three Buffalo stations came in like locals (especially 7 with the rotor dialed in to "w"), and 3 and 5 in Syracuse came in just as well (although 9, because of local signals at 8 and 10 didn't have a chance).

I also remember late at night (after the parents went to bed- I was very young then) being thrilled at picking up Canadian signals at 6 and 12 that were watchable- did all right with it until I fell asleep on the couch one night and got "busted"- and that was the end of that!
 
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