Retro: Central & Southern Indiana/Eastern Illinois Sat, Jan 30, 1971

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from TV News

2 WTWO-NBC/ABC Terre Haute
3 WCIA-CBS Champaign
4 WTTV-Ind Indianapolis
6 WFBM-NBC Indianapolis
7 WTVW-ABC Evansville
8 WISH-CBS Indianapolis
10 WTHI-CBS Terre Haute
13 WLWI-ABC Indianapolis
14 WFIE-NBC Evansville
15 WICD-NBC Champaign
17 WAND-ABC Decatur
18 WLFI-CBS Lafayette
20 WICS-NBC Springfield
WFYI 20-PBS Indianapolis, also listed by TV News, didn't air programming on Saturdays

Programs listed "fast time", subtract 1 hr for "slow time"

Morning
6:30
4 Hoosier Roundup (bw)

6:50
13 County Newsreel

7:00
6 Heckle & Jeckle
8 Town & Country
13 Time for Timothy

7:30
2 Across the Fence (bw)
4 Lessons for Living
6 Woody Woodpecker
8 Jetsons
13 Agriscope
14 Farm

8:00
2-14-15-20 Tomfoolery
3-8-10-18 Bugs Bunny/Road Runner
4 Cool McCool
6 Three Stooges (animated)
7 Agriscope
13 Here & Now
17 Three Stooges (bw)

8:30
2-14-15-20 Heckle & Jeckle
4 Popeye
7 4-H in Action
13 Safety Corner
17 Dennis the Menace (bw)

8:56
3-8-10-18 In the Know

9:00
2-15-20 Woody Woodpecker
3-8-10-18 Sabrina the Teenage Witch
6 Fun Club
7-13-17 Lancelot Link, Secret Chimp
14 Tarzan Movie

9:30
2-15-20 Bugaloos
4 Underdog

9:56
3-8-10-18 In the Know

10:00
2-6-15-20 Dr. Doolittle
3-8-10-18 Josie & the Pussycats
4 Sampson
7-13-17 Will the Real Jerry Lewis Please Sit Down?

10:30
2-6-14-15-20 Pink Panther
3-8-10-18 Harlem Globetrotters
4 Cowboy Bob's Cartoons
7-13-17 Here Come the Doubledeckers

11:00
2-6-14-15-20 H.R. Pufnstuf
3-8-10-18 Archie's Fun House
4 Focus
7-13-17 Hot Wheels

11:30
2-6-14-15-20 Here Comes the Grump
4 TBA
7-13-17 Sky Hawks

11:56
3-8-10-18 In the Know

Afternoon
noon
2-6-14-15-20 Children's Theatre "Super Plastic Goggles" (the Goggles Quartet takes a swinging look at color in a child's world)
3-10-18 Scooby-Doo
4 Farming Special
7-13-17 Motor Mouse
8 Clowning Around

12:15
4 Hoosier Hinterland

12:30
3-10-18 Monkees
4 Roller Derby
7-13-17 Hardy Boys

12:56
3-10-18 In the Know

1:00
2-13-17 American Bandstand
3-8-10-18 Dastardly & Muttley
6 Bible Telecourse "First Corinthians: Life After Death"
7 Point of View
14 Roller Derby
15-20 College Basketball: info not listed

1:30
2-4 College Basketball: Georgia Tech-Southern Illinois
3-10-18 Jetsons
7 Bonnie Lou & Buster
8 Roads to Learning

2:00
3-7-8-10-18 Big Ten Basketball: Iowa-Northwestern
6 Wild Kingdom
13 Sports Challenge
14 Abbott & Costello (bw)
17 Visual Girl

2:30
6 Saturday Matinee "Spanish Gardener"
13 American Sportsman
14 Private Line
17 I.X. Lewis Country Club

3:00
14 SEC Basketball: Mississippi-LSU
15-20 Experiment in TV
17 Community 17

3:30
2-13-17 Pro Bowlers' Tour: Greater Los Angeles Open
4 Outdoors

4:00
3 CBS Golf Classic
4-18 College Basketball: Marshall-Perdue
7 Pro Bowlers' Tour (JIP)
8 Laurel & Hardy Movie (bw)
10 Gordon Stauffer (bw)
15-20 Saturday Afternoon Movie: TBA

4:30
6 Bill Anderson
10 Face to Face (bw)

5:00
2-7-13-17 ABC Wide World of Sports: National Figure Skating Championships/Team Auto Demolition Derby
3 Honeymooners (1 hr/color version)
6 Wilburn Brothers
8 Flying Nun
10 Interns
14 Bill Anderson

5:30
6 Porter Wagoner
8 Honeymooners (same format as 3)
14 Music Place
15-20 Outdoor Newsreel

Evening
6:00
3 Mary Tyler Moore
4 Dick Van Dyke (bw)
6-10 News (TV News didn't indicate where the network news aired)
14 Wild Kingdom
15-20 Roller Derby
18 Burns & Allen (bw)

6:30
2-13-17 Golf: Andy Williams San Diego Open
3-8-14-15-20 News
4 Daniel Boone
7 Porter Wagoner
18 Big Picture

7:00
6 Death Valley Days
7-18 News
10 Know Us By Our Love (36 teens sing and talk in 5 European countries)
14 Project 14
15-20 Roller Derby

7:30
2-6-14-15-20 Andy Williams (guests Don Adams, the Lennon Sisters, and Al Hirt in a show about golf that also features cameos from pro golfers and other celebs)
3-8-10-18 Mission: Impossible
4 Star Trek
7-13-17 Lawrence Welk (guests Anita Bryant and Welk alumnus Lynn Anderson)

8:30
2-4-14-15-20 NBC Saturday Movie "Operation Crossbow"
3 College Basketball: Notre Dame-Illinois
6 Channel 6 Saturday Movie "Sylvia" (bw)
7-13-17 Pearl Bailey (guests Lucille Ball, Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66, and George Kirby)
8-10-18 My Three Sons

9:00
8-10-18 Arnie

9:30
7 Danny Thomas
8-10-18 Mary Tyler Moore
13 Johnny Cash "Johnny Cash Presents the Country Music Story" (pt 2 with appearances by Faron Young, Kitty Wells, Webb Pierce, Chet Atkins, Henson Cargill, David Houston, Sonny James, Bill Monroe, Minnie Pearl, Merle Haggard, Tammy Wynette, and Takahiro Saito)
17 Young Lawyers

10:00
7 Dan August
8-10-18 Mannix

10:30
3 Temptations (guests Paul Williams, Kaye Stevens, and George Kirby)
6 This is Your Life
13 News
17 Rebel

11:00
2-4-6-7-8-10-14-15-17-20 News
13 Saturday Night Movie "Guns of Darkness" (bw)/"Die, Die My Darling"/"Man Between" (bw)/"My Girl Tisa" (bw) (there was a note indicating that the latter 3 movies could be spiked by 13)
18 Perry Mason (bw)

11:30
2 Tonight Show (guests Jimmy Stewart and his wife; Joe Frazier, Eddy Arnold, and Margaret Mead; Indy delayed Johnny til Sunday while 15/20 couldn't be bothered )
3 News
4 John Wayne Rides Again "Lawless Nineties" (bw)
6 The Movie "Anatomy of a Murder"/"The Detective" (both bw)
7 Big Movie "Pony Express"
8 Late Show "Love with the Proper Stranger"/"Captain Blood" (both bw)
10 Late Movie "Siege at Red River" (bw)
14 College Basketball: Kentucky-Vanderbilt
15-20 Saturday Movie "High Sierra" (bw)
17 Nightwatch Movie "Nightmare Alley"/"Untamed Heiress" (both bw)

Late Night
midnight
3 Late Movie "Lost Weekend" (bw)
18 Twilight Zone (bw)

12:45
4 Championship Wrestling

1:15
15-20 Naked City (bw)

1:20
7 Commitment

1:30
14 Movie One "Night Passage"

 

[KeithE4]

from TV News

2 WTWO-NBC/ABC Terre Haute
3 WCIA-CBS Champaign
4 WTTV-Ind Indianapolis
6 WFBM-NBC Indianapolis
7 WTVW-ABC Evansville
8 WISH-CBS Indianapolis
10 WTHI-CBS Terre Haute
13 WLWI-ABC Indianapolis
14 WFIE-NBC Evansville
15 WICD-NBC Champaign
17 WAND-ABC Decatur
18 WLFI-CBS Lafayette
20 WICS-NBC Springfield
WFYI 20-PBS Indianapolis, also listed by TV News, didn't air programming on Saturdays

I wonder why they didn't list WILL/12 Champaign/Urbana, WVUT/22 Vincennes, WEHT/25 Evansville, or WTIU/30 Bloomington (which, IIRC, didn't broadcast on Saturdays either, at that time)? Those stations were in the territory that TV News covered.

Programs listed "fast time", subtract 1 hr for "slow time"

Yep, Illinois always had that "slow time" problem. It was so bad that it took Illinois viewers 1 1/2 hours to watch 60 Minutes. ;D

 

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from TV News

2 WTWO-NBC/ABC Terre Haute
3 WCIA-CBS Champaign
4 WTTV-Ind Indianapolis
6 WFBM-NBC Indianapolis
7 WTVW-ABC Evansville
8 WISH-CBS Indianapolis
10 WTHI-CBS Terre Haute
13 WLWI-ABC Indianapolis
14 WFIE-NBC Evansville
15 WICD-NBC Champaign
17 WAND-ABC Decatur
18 WLFI-CBS Lafayette
20 WICS-NBC Springfield
WFYI 20-PBS Indianapolis, also listed by TV News, didn't air programming on Saturdays

I wonder why they didn't list WILL/12 Champaign/Urbana, WVUT/22 Vincennes, WEHT/25 Evansville, or WTIU/30 Bloomington (which, IIRC, didn't broadcast on Saturdays either, at that time)? Those stations were in the territory that TV News covered.

According to some later issues I have, they did eventually add 12 (and 25 too IIRC). The listings were a bit strange, with one listing running combined listings for Indy (but not 20, which was shunted to the back), Champaign (but not 12), and Terre Haute stations, with everybody else in the back with one page per channel (in later years, WGN, WTBS, ESPN, HBO and Showtime joined the broadcast stations in the back of the bus, so to speak ;D).

 

[radiorob2.0]

As vast as the UHF band was back then why did they allocate two Channel 20's so close? The same could be said about Channel 14, one for Evansville and the short lived Jacksonville station.

 

[KeithE4]

As vast as the UHF band was back then why did they allocate two Channel 20's so close? The same could be said about Channel 14, one for Evansville and the short lived Jacksonville station.

Actually, three Channel 20s if you include Chicago. I think the minimum spacing for co-channel analog UHFs was 155 or 170 miles. Chicago, Indy, and Springfield are about 180-200 miles apart from each other.

 

[radiorob2.0]

As vast as the UHF band was back then why did they allocate two Channel 20's so close? The same could be said about Channel 14, one for Evansville and the short lived Jacksonville station.

Actually, three Channel 20s if you include Chicago. I think the minimum spacing for co-channel analog UHFs was 155 or 170 miles. Chicago, Indy, and Springfield are about 180-200 miles apart from each other.

Forgot about Chicago. Now that I think of it, there was a UHF allocation scheme resembling VHF (2,4,5,7,9,11,13 or 3,6,8,10,12) that was six channels apart. It had something to do with a shortcoming in UHF tuners IF stage at the time that caused interference if there wasn't this separation. UHF was 14,20,26,32,38,44,50,56,62,68 which is pretty much the Chicago allocation.

 

[Tim from Springfield IL]

from TV News

2 WTWO-NBC/ABC Terre Haute
3 WCIA-CBS Champaign
4 WTTV-Ind Indianapolis
6 WFBM-NBC Indianapolis
7 WTVW-ABC Evansville
8 WISH-CBS Indianapolis
10 WTHI-CBS Terre Haute
13 WLWI-ABC Indianapolis
14 WFIE-NBC Evansville
15 WICD-NBC Champaign
17 WAND-ABC Decatur
18 WLFI-CBS Lafayette
20 WICS-NBC Springfield
WFYI 20-PBS Indianapolis, also listed by TV News, didn't air programming on Saturdays

I wonder why they didn't list WILL/12 Champaign/Urbana, WVUT/22 Vincennes, WEHT/25 Evansville, or WTIU/30 Bloomington (which, IIRC, didn't broadcast on Saturdays either, at that time)? Those stations were in the territory that TV News covered.

According to some later issues I have, they did eventually add 12 (and 25 too IIRC). The listings were a bit strange, with one listing running combined listings for Indy (but not 20, which was shunted to the back), Champaign (but not 12), and Terre Haute stations, with everybody else in the back with one page per channel (in later years, WGN, WTBS, ESPN, HBO and Showtime joined the broadcast stations in the back of the bus, so to speak ;D).

Did TV News ever add listings for Evansville's PBS station (WNIN-9) as well as (in later years) Evansville's current CBS affiliate (since 1996), WEVV-44?

 

[Tim from Springfield IL]

As vast as the UHF band was back then why did they allocate two Channel 20's so close? The same could be said about Channel 14, one for Evansville and the short lived Jacksonville station.

Actually, three Channel 20s if you include Chicago. I think the minimum spacing for co-channel analog UHFs was 155 or 170 miles. Chicago, Indy, and Springfield are about 180-200 miles apart from each other.

Not to slightly change the subject--this time to closely-spaced Low-V's--but I've wondered (and been fascinated with) the closeness of WTWO's Channel 2 allocation to other 2s in Chicago and particularly St. Louis. (Of course, channel 2 was originally to be allocated to my home city of Springfield but later reallocated to both TH and St. Louis). Anyone have an idea why channel 2 was allocated too close between Terre Haute (actually Farmersburg, IN for WTWO's studio and tranny) and St. Louis (KTVI)?

Another fascinating thing regarding the closeness of the 2s in TH and St. Louis: the Fayette County, IL town of Brownstown (about 5 miles east of Vandalia off I-70) gets their cable from Vandalia and their lineup includes KTVI-2. (Fayette County is in the St. Louis market).

Eight miles to the east of Brownstown is another Fayette County town, St. Elmo (in the far eastern part of the county), and their cable system is based out of Effingham, IL (Mediacom) and WTWO-2 is offered. This dates back to when St. Elmo was served by the cable system out of Altamont, IL (in western Effingham County 6 miles east of St. Elmo).

BTW, Effingham County is actually in the Champaign/Decatur/Springfield market--but there was a season or two around 1980 that it was assigned to Terre Haute--which I wonder could have been a result of the aftermath of the collapse of the WAND-17 transmitter near Decatur, IL due to the Easter 1978 ice storm here in central Illinois. Historically the Terre Haute stations have been carried by cable systems in Effingham and Altamont/St. Elmo basically since Day One of cable in those towns.

 

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from TV News

2 WTWO-NBC/ABC Terre Haute
3 WCIA-CBS Champaign
4 WTTV-Ind Indianapolis
6 WFBM-NBC Indianapolis
7 WTVW-ABC Evansville
8 WISH-CBS Indianapolis
10 WTHI-CBS Terre Haute
13 WLWI-ABC Indianapolis
14 WFIE-NBC Evansville
15 WICD-NBC Champaign
17 WAND-ABC Decatur
18 WLFI-CBS Lafayette
20 WICS-NBC Springfield
WFYI 20-PBS Indianapolis, also listed by TV News, didn't air programming on Saturdays

I wonder why they didn't list WILL/12 Champaign/Urbana, WVUT/22 Vincennes, WEHT/25 Evansville, or WTIU/30 Bloomington (which, IIRC, didn't broadcast on Saturdays either, at that time)? Those stations were in the territory that TV News covered.

According to some later issues I have, they did eventually add 12 (and 25 too IIRC). The listings were a bit strange, with one listing running combined listings for Indy (but not 20, which was shunted to the back), Champaign (but not 12), and Terre Haute stations, with everybody else in the back with one page per channel (in later years, WGN, WTBS, ESPN, HBO and Showtime joined the broadcast stations in the back of the bus, so to speak ;D).

Did TV News ever add listings for Evansville's PBS station (WNIN-9) as well as (in later years) Evansville's current CBS affiliate (since 1996), WEVV-44?

Not in the copies I have...the most recent I have dates from 82/83.