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Retro:Cleveland Primetime Monday, Feb. 28, 1955

T

TimL

Guest
From TV Guide



Cleveland
WNBK 3 NBC
WEWS 5 CBS
WXEL 8 ABC/DuMont

Akron
WAKR 49 ABC

Youngstown
WFMJ 21 NBC
WKBN 27 CBS/ABC/DuMont




8PM
3 21 Sid Caesar
5 Burns And Allen
8 49 TV Reader's Digest-ABC
27 Studio 57-DuMont


8:30
5 Arthur Godfrey's Talent Scouts
8 49 Concert ABC (Voice Of Firestone)
27 Racket Squad-Synd.


9PM
3 21 Medic
5 27 I Love Lucy
8 Focus-Local
49 Akron, Let's Go!

9:30
3 21 Robert Montgomery Presents
5 27 December Bride
8 Myrus-Mind Reader
49 Boxing Prelininaries

10PM
5 27 Studio One
8 Boxing-St. Nicholas-DuMont
Chris Schenkel
49 Boxing-Eastern Parkway-ABC
Bob Finnegan/Tommy Loughran

10:30
3 Sherlock Holmes-Synd.
21 The Falcon-Synd.

10:45
8 Ringside Interviews

11PM
3 8 21 27 49 News
5 Music Review

11:05
3 Weather-Joe Finan

11:10
3 8 21 49 Sports

11:15
3 21 Theater 15
8 27 Weather

11:20
8 Movie-Tread Softly
27 Movie (Front Row Theater) Four Feathers

11:30
3 21 Tonight-Steve Allen

Midnight
5 News

12:30
27 News

1AM
3 News
 
"The Voice Of Firestone" (Was: Re: Retro:Cleveland Primetime Monday, Feb. 28, 1955)

Tim Lones takes us back to Cleveland on the final evening of February, 1955:

> WXEL 8 ABC/DuMont
>
> Akron
> WAKR 49 ABC

> 8:30
> 8 49 Concert ABC

"Concert" (ABC) was actually "The Voice Of Firestone", a prime-time showcase for classical and operatic music sponsored by the tire company of the same name.

Although it was a very popular radio program for NBC Red/NBC from 1928 until the early 1950's, the TV version was far less successful. After five years of low ratings on TV, NBC wanted to move "Firestone" out of it's 8:30 P.M. (EST/EDT) timeslot on Monday evenings (which the show had had since it premiered on radio way back in 1928) and into a later slot, as to minimize ratings damage to shows that would follow "Firestone" on NBC's prime-time schedule.

Firestone refused to accept a different timeslot, but ABC offered to televise "Firestone" in the show's traditional Mondays-at-8:30 time slot. So, the show changed networks in June of 1954 (in fact, the first telecast of "Firestone" on ABC was exactly one week after the show's last telecast on NBC!). Once more, the show wasn't much of a success on TV, and by 1959, ABC wanted to move "Firestone" into a late-evening slot, again, to minimize ratings damage to shows that would follow it. Firestone refused, and after a combined TV/radio run of 31 years, the show went off the air.

It should be noted that in 1957, "Voice Of Firestone" was moved back a half-hour to Mondays at 9 P.M. ET, where it would remain until it left the air in 1959.

In 1962, Firestone accepted an ABC offer to return "Voice Of Firestone" to television, this time on Sunday nights at 10 P.M. ET. With ABC having started it's Sunday-night movie (running from 8 to 10 P.M. ET that season), and with the movie being a lead-in to "Firestone", ABC fully expected "Firestone" would finally be a hit on television, given the huge lead-in the Sunday movie would give it, especially on weeks when some "big" titles were broadcast.

Didn't happen. Most of the large audience who tuned-in ABC's Sunday movie in the 1962/1963 television season changed channels (to CBS' "Candid Camera" or NBC's "DuPont Show Of The Week"), or turned off their sets entirely when "Firestone" came on at 10 P.M. ET.

Howard Barlow led the orchestra during "Firestone"'s entire run on television, although he was not seen every week during the final (1962/1963) season; instead, "name" conductors from the nation's top symphony orchestras occassionally replaced Barlow as "guest conductors".

I wonder if today's Bridgestone/Firestone would be willing to underwrite a updated version of "Voice Of Firestone". If they were, such a program would probably appear on PBS, since I doubt any commercial broadcast network would consider it (even in a Sunday-morning timeslot), and I doubt any basic-cable network that ran commercials would want it either.

Brooks and Marsh have written in their reference work on prime-time programs that one reason "Firestone", a tremendously successful program on radio, did not become a successful show on TV was that although it was "pleasant to hear", it was also "boring to watch".
 
Re: "The Voice Of Firestone" (Was: Re: Retro:Cleveland Primetime Monday, Feb. 28, 1955)

> Tim Lones takes us back to Cleveland on the final evening of
> February, 1955:
>
> > WXEL 8 ABC/DuMont
> >
> > Akron
> > WAKR 49 ABC
>
> > 8:30
> > 8 49 Concert ABC
>
> "Concert" (ABC) was actually "The Voice Of Firestone", a
> prime-time showcase for classical and operatic music
> sponsored by the tire company of the same name.
>
> Although it was a very popular radio program for NBC Red/NBC
> from 1928 until the early 1950's, the TV version was far
> less successful. After five years of low ratings on TV, NBC
> wanted to move "Firestone" out of it's 8:30 P.M. (EST/EDT)
> timeslot on Monday evenings (which the show had had since it
> premiered on radio way back in 1928) and into a later slot,
> as to minimize ratings damage to shows that would follow
> "Firestone" on NBC's prime-time schedule.
>
> Firestone refused to accept a different timeslot, but ABC
> offered to televise "Firestone" in the show's traditional
> Mondays-at-8:30 time slot. So, the show changed networks in
> June of 1954 (in fact, the first telecast of "Firestone" on
> ABC was exactly one week after the show's last telecast on
> NBC!). Once more, the show wasn't much of a success on TV,
> and by 1959, ABC wanted to move "Firestone" into a
> late-evening slot, again, to minimize ratings damage to
> shows that would follow it. Firestone refused, and after a
> combined TV/radio run of 31 years, the show went off the
> air.
>
> It should be noted that in 1957, "Voice Of Firestone" was
> moved back a half-hour to Mondays at 9 P.M. ET, where it
> would remain until it left the air in 1959.
>
> In 1962, Firestone accepted an ABC offer to return "Voice Of
> Firestone" to television, this time on Sunday nights at 10
> P.M. ET. With ABC having started it's Sunday-night movie
> (running from 8 to 10 P.M. ET that season), and with the
> movie being a lead-in to "Firestone", ABC fully expected
> "Firestone" would finally be a hit on television, given the
> huge lead-in the Sunday movie would give it, especially on
> weeks when some "big" titles were broadcast.
>
> Didn't happen. Most of the large audience who tuned-in ABC's
> Sunday movie in the 1962/1963 television season changed
> channels (to CBS' "Candid Camera" or NBC's "DuPont Show Of
> The Week"), or turned off their sets entirely when
> "Firestone" came on at 10 P.M. ET.
>
> Howard Barlow led the orchestra during "Firestone"'s entire
> run on television, although he was not seen every week
> during the final (1962/1963) season; instead, "name"
> conductors from the nation's top symphony orchestras
> occassionally replaced Barlow as "guest conductors".
>
> I wonder if today's Bridgestone/Firestone would be willing
> to underwrite a updated version of "Voice Of Firestone". If
> they were, such a program would probably appear on PBS,
> since I doubt any commercial broadcast network would
> consider it (even in a Sunday-morning timeslot), and I doubt
> any basic-cable network that ran commercials would want it
> either.
>
> Brooks and Marsh have written in their reference work on
> prime-time programs that one reason "Firestone", a
> tremendously successful program on radio, did not become a
> successful show on TV was that although it was "pleasant to
> hear", it was also "boring to watch".


Thanks Joseph..Should have picked up on "Concert" Being Voice Of Firestone
 
Re: "The Voice Of Firestone" (Was: Re: Retro:Cleveland Primetime Monday, Feb. 28, 1955)

> Tim Lones takes us back to Cleveland on the final evening of
> February, 1955:
>
> > WXEL 8 ABC/DuMont
> >
> > Akron
> > WAKR 49 ABC
>
> > 8:30
> > 8 49 Concert ABC
>
> "Concert" (ABC) was actually "The Voice Of Firestone", a
> prime-time showcase for classical and operatic music
> sponsored by the tire company of the same name.
>
> Although it was a very popular radio program for NBC Red/NBC
> from 1928 until the early 1950's, the TV version was far
> less successful. After five years of low ratings on TV, NBC
> wanted to move "Firestone" out of it's 8:30 P.M. (EST/EDT)
> timeslot on Monday evenings (which the show had had since it
> premiered on radio way back in 1928) and into a later slot,
> as to minimize ratings damage to shows that would follow
> "Firestone" on NBC's prime-time schedule.
>
> Firestone refused to accept a different timeslot, but ABC
> offered to televise "Firestone" in the show's traditional
> Mondays-at-8:30 time slot. So, the show changed networks in
> June of 1954 (in fact, the first telecast of "Firestone" on
> ABC was exactly one week after the show's last telecast on
> NBC!). Once more, the show wasn't much of a success on TV,
> and by 1959, ABC wanted to move "Firestone" into a
> late-evening slot, again, to minimize ratings damage to
> shows that would follow it. Firestone refused, and after a
> combined TV/radio run of 31 years, the show went off the
> air.
>
> It should be noted that in 1957, "Voice Of Firestone" was
> moved back a half-hour to Mondays at 9 P.M. ET, where it
> would remain until it left the air in 1959.
>
> In 1962, Firestone accepted an ABC offer to return "Voice Of
> Firestone" to television, this time on Sunday nights at 10
> P.M. ET. With ABC having started it's Sunday-night movie
> (running from 8 to 10 P.M. ET that season), and with the
> movie being a lead-in to "Firestone", ABC fully expected
> "Firestone" would finally be a hit on television, given the
> huge lead-in the Sunday movie would give it, especially on
> weeks when some "big" titles were broadcast.
>
> Didn't happen. Most of the large audience who tuned-in ABC's
> Sunday movie in the 1962/1963 television season changed
> channels (to CBS' "Candid Camera" or NBC's "DuPont Show Of
> The Week"), or turned off their sets entirely when
> "Firestone" came on at 10 P.M. ET.
>
> Howard Barlow led the orchestra during "Firestone"'s entire
> run on television, although he was not seen every week
> during the final (1962/1963) season; instead, "name"
> conductors from the nation's top symphony orchestras
> occassionally replaced Barlow as "guest conductors".
>
> I wonder if today's Bridgestone/Firestone would be willing
> to underwrite a updated version of "Voice Of Firestone". If
> they were, such a program would probably appear on PBS,
> since I doubt any commercial broadcast network would
> consider it (even in a Sunday-morning timeslot), and I doubt
> any basic-cable network that ran commercials would want it
> either.
>
> Brooks and Marsh have written in their reference work on
> prime-time programs that one reason "Firestone", a
> tremendously successful program on radio, did not become a
> successful show on TV was that although it was "pleasant to
> hear", it was also "boring to watch".
>
When NBC announced it was dropping "Firestone" on Monday nights,
it, CBS, and (possibly) ABC offered it a Sunday-afternoon slot.
One of the Firestone family was incredulous; his reply was, "Who
watches television on Sunday afternoon? They're all out playing
polo." When ABC revived "Firestone" in 1962, Sen. Thomas Dodd
wrote the network, commending it for bringing the program back.
However, only about 2.5 million people (according to Brooks and
Marsh) watched, leading to permanent cancellation in 1963.

"Firestone" has long been a symbol of the basic conflict of
television: "quality" is not enough; the program has to have
big ratings as well.
 
Re: "The Voice Of Firestone" (Was: Re: Retro:Cleveland Primetime Monday, Feb. 28, 1955)

B. Patrick commented:

> When NBC announced it was dropping "Firestone" on Monday
> nights, it, CBS, and (possibly) ABC offered it a Sunday-afternoon
> slot. One of the Firestone family was incredulous; his reply was,
> "Who watches television on Sunday afternoon? They're all out
> playing polo." When ABC revived "Firestone" in 1962, Sen. Thomas
> Dodd wrote the network, commending it for bringing the program
> back. However, only about 2.5 million people (according to Brooks
> and Marsh) watched, leading to permanent cancellation in 1963.

Didn't this actually take place in 1959, when ABC cancelled "Voice Of Firestone"?? Several reference works claimed that all three networks offered Sunday afternoon timeslots to "Firestone" for the 1959/1960 season, but the company refused. It was "prime time or nothing". Then, after Ollie Treyz got fired as ABC's programming chief (I believe it was Treyz who cancelled "Firestone" in 1959), his successor (I don't know his name) decided to score some "brownie points" and offered "Firestone" an excellent timeslot for the 1962/1963 season, Sundays at 10 P.M. (EDT/EST), leading-out of what was expected to be a series of high-rated movies.

As I had written earlier in this thread, nearly all of the large audience attracted by the movies either changed channels or turned-off their sets at 10 P.M., leaving "Firestone" (as B. Patrick noted) with an average weekly viewing audience of only about two and a half million people.
 
Re: "The Voice Of Firestone" (Was: Re: Retro:Cleveland Primetime Monday, Feb. 28, 1955)

> B. Patrick commented:
>
> > When NBC announced it was dropping "Firestone" on Monday
> > nights, it, CBS, and (possibly) ABC offered it a
> Sunday-afternoon
> > slot. One of the Firestone family was incredulous; his
> reply was,
> > "Who watches television on Sunday afternoon? They're all
> out
> > playing polo." When ABC revived "Firestone" in 1962, Sen.
> Thomas
> > Dodd wrote the network, commending it for bringing the
> program
> > back. However, only about 2.5 million people (according to
> Brooks
> > and Marsh) watched, leading to permanent cancellation in
> 1963.
>
> Didn't this actually take place in 1959, when ABC cancelled
> "Voice Of Firestone"?? Several reference works claimed that
> all three networks offered Sunday afternoon timeslots to
> "Firestone" for the 1959/1960 season, but the company
> refused. It was "prime time or nothing". Then, after Ollie
> Treyz got fired as ABC's programming chief (I believe it was
> Treyz who cancelled "Firestone" in 1959), his successor (I
> don't know his name) decided to score some "brownie points"
> and offered "Firestone" an excellent timeslot for the
> 1962/1963 season, Sundays at 10 P.M. (EDT/EST), leading-out
> of what was expected to be a series of high-rated movies.
>
> As I had written earlier in this thread, nearly all of the
> large audience attracted by the movies either changed
> channels or turned-off their sets at 10 P.M., leaving
> "Firestone" (as B. Patrick noted) with an average weekly
> viewing audience of only about two and a half million
> people.
>
According to Brooks and Marsh, NBC offered the Firestone family
a different time slot in 1954, which they refused; in 1959, Ollie
Treyz decided that "Voice Of Firestone" would have to air at
10 PM, where it would do the least damage to the rest of the
schedule. Again the Firestones wouldn't hear of it, and Treyz
canceled the program. A book about ABC
Sports called "The Thrill Of Victory" (which contains a short
history of ABC up to 1978) says that ABC did indeed offer
Sunday afternoons in 1959, but that NBC had done the same
thing at some earlier point ('54, perhaps?) and had gotten
the response I mentioned about polo.

At any rate, Tom Moore replaced Ollie Treyz in 1962, and he's
the guy who put "Voice Of Firestone" back on the air. And
guess what? Candid Camera, against "Voice" on CBS, finished
the 1962-63 season tied with Red Skelton as the number-two
program in prime time (The Beverly Hillbillies was number one).
 
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