• Get involved.
    We want your input!
    Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.

    After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
    If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.

    After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/

    Thanks in advance and have fun!
    RadioDiscussions Administrators

Retro: Cleveland Tues, July 30, 1974

Weekday sked posted by request, from TV Guide's Cleveland edition
(Tim L, how many of the out-of-market stations were actually on Cleveland's cablecos in those days?)

3 WKYC-NBC Cleveland
4 WLWC-NBC Columbus
5 WEWS-ABC Cleveland
6 WTVN-ABC Columbus
7 WTRF-NBC/ABC Wheeling
8 WJW-CBS Cleveland
9 WSTV-CBS/ABC Steubenville
10 WBNS-CBS Columbus
11 WTOL-CBS Toledo
12 WICU-NBC Erie
13 WSPD-NBC Toledo
17 WJAN-Ind Canton
21 WFMJ-NBC Youngstown
23 WAKR-ABC Akron
24 WJET-ABC Erie
25 WVIZ-PBS Cleveland
27 WKBN-CBS Youngstown
33 WYTV-ABC Youngstown
34 WOSU-PBS Columbus
35 WSEE-CBS Erie
43 WUAB-Ind Cleveland
45 WNEO-PBS Alliance
54 WQLN-PBS Erie
61 WKBF-Ind Cleveland

Morning
5:45
3 News

5:50
3 Farm Fare

5:55
3 Knowledge

6:00
4 Sunrise Seminar
10 Summer Semester "The American Presidency: The Man and the Office"

6:20
8 News
11 Summer Semester "Practical Health for the Layman"

6:25
3 Not for Women Oly
8 First Edition
9-27 Jobs Now

6:30
4 Five Minutes to Live By
6 News
8-27 Summer Semester (8 carries 11's episode, with 27 airing 10's)
9 Blue Ridge Quartet
10 Sacred Heart

6:35
4 Columbus Today

6:45
10 Farmtime

6:50
11 Town & Country

6:55
3 What's Doing?
5-12 News
13 Farm Report

7:00
3-4-7-12-13-21 Today
5 Today's Health
6 Osmonds
8-9-10-11-27 CBS Morning News

7:30
5 Cartoons
6 New Zoo Revue
34 Your Future is Now

8:00
5 Morning Exchange
6 Jeff's Collie (Lassie/bw)
8-9-11-27 Captain Kangaroo
10 Concern & Comment
33 New Zoo Revue
34 Hathayoga

8:30
6 Brady Bunch
10 Green Acres
33 Flintstones
34 Sesame Street

8:45
35 Sacred Heart

8:55
10 Chuck White Reports

9:00
3-24 Mike Douglas (co-hosts: Alan Alda in Cleveland, Mac Davis in the Valley)
4 Paul Dixon
6 Wild Wild West
7 Phil Donahue (Rona Barrett talks about her book Miss Rona)
8 Mayberry RFD
9-12 New Zoo Revue
10-35 Captain Kangaroo
11 Not for Women Only
13 Jeopardy!
21 Teleview
27 Cartoons
33 Movie "Rainbow 'Round My Shoulder"

9:15
21 Black History

9:20
21 Cartoons

9:30
8-11-27 Tattletales
9 Mayberry RFD
12 Bea Canfield
13 Jackpot!
21 Sesame Street
34 Mister Rogers' Neighborhood

10:00
5 Split Second
6 Company
7-12-13 Name That Tune (which launched the day before)
8-9-10-11-27-35 Joker's Wild
34 Behind the Lines

10:20
23-43 News

10:30
3-4-7-12-13-21 Winning Streak
5 I Dream of Jeannie
8-9-10-11-27-35 Gambit
23-61 Jack LaLanne
24 Dick Van Dyke (bw)
43 Coffee Shoppe

10:50
33 News

11:00
3-4-7-12-13-21 High Rollers
5 Cartoons
6 Mike Douglas (co-host Alan Alda)
23-43 Romper Room
24 Flying Nun
33 $10,000 Pyramid
34 Electric Company
61 News

11:30
3-4-7-12-13-21 Hollywood Squares
5-23-24-33 Brady Bunch
8-9-10-11-27-35 Love of Life
34 Sesame Street
43 Barnaby
61 Kimba the White Lion

11:55
8-9-11-27 CBS News
10 Dan Imel's World
35 News

Afternoon
noon
3-12-21 Jackpot!
4 Bob Braun's 50-50 Club
5-6-23-24-33 Password
7-8-10-11-13 News
9-27-35 Young & the Restless
43 Gilligan's Island (bw)
61 Banana Splits

12:30
3-7-12-13-21 Celebrity Sweepstakes
5-27 News
6-23-24-33 Split Second
8-9-10-11-35 Search for Tomorrow
34 Collector's Corner
43 Gilligan's Island (bw)
61 Mister Ed (bw)

12:35
27 Movie "Snake People" (bw)

12:55
3-7-12-13-21 NBC News

1:00
3-21 Name That Tune
5-6-9-23-24-33 All My Children
7 Jackpot!
8-11 Young & the Restless
10 What's My Line?
12 Underdog
13-43 Phil Donahue (Phil's at Summerfest in Milwaukee on 13, Rona Barrett's on 43)
34 Golden Village
35 Jeanne Carnes
61 I Love Lucy (bw)

1:30
3-4-7-12-21 Jeopardy!
5-6-23-24-33 Let's Make a Deal
8-9-10-11-35 As the World Turns
34 Playhouse New York on the '40s
61 Make Room for Daddy (bw)

2:00
3-4-7-12-13-21 Days of Our Lives
5-6-23-24-33 Newlywed Game
8-9-10-11-27-35 Guiding Light
43 Movie "The Brass Legend" (bw)
61 Candid Camera (bw)

2:30
3-4-7-12-13-21 Doctors
5-6-23-24-33 Girl in My Life
8-9-10-11-27-35 Edge of Night
61 New Zoo Revue

3:00
3-4-7-12-13-21 Another World
5-6-23-24-33 General Hospital
8-9-10-11-27-35 Price is Right
61 Tennessee Tuxedo

3:30
3-7-12-13-21 How to Survive a Marriage
4 Phil Donahue (Rosemary Casals sounds off on pro sports)
5-6-23-24-33 One Life to Live
8-9-10-11-27-35 Match Game
17 Visitor
34 Hodgepodge Lodge
43 Gentle Ben
61 Huck & Yogi

4:00
3-7-12 Somerset
5-23-24 $10,000 Pyramid
6 Huck & Yogi
8 Adventure Road
9-35 Tattletales
10 Movie "My Friend Irma" (bw, this film launched Martin & Lewis)
11 Movie "The Great Ziegfeld" (bw)
13-33 Gilligan's Island (bw)
17 Milton the Milkman
21 Mike Douglas (co-host Alan Alda)
25-34-54 Sesame Street
27 Movie "Now, Voyager" (bw)
43 Spiderman
61 Three Stooges

4:30
3 Room 222
4 Jackpot!
5-35 Bonanza
6 Gilligan's Island
7 Virginian
8-13 Merv Griffin
9-61 Flintstones
12-33 Gomer Pyle, USMC
23 Call of the West (bw)
43 Flipper

5:00
3 Mod Squad
4 Merv Griffin (Roger Miller pinch-hits for Merv)
6 Big Valley
9 Star Trek
12 High Chapparal
17 Journey to Adventure
23 Yogi's Gang
25-34-45-54 Mister Rogers' Neighborhood
33 Green Acres (bw)
43 Flying Nun
61 Munsters (bw)

5:30
5-21 Andy Griffith
17-33 News
23 Davey & Goliath
23 I Dream of Jeannie
25-34-45-54 Electric Company
35 Beverly Hillbillies (bw)
43 Petticoat Junction
61 Addams Family (bw)

5:45
23 Hour of Power Singers

Evening
6:00
3-4-5-7-8-9-10-11-13-21-23-24-27-35 News
6 Truth or Consequences
12 To Tell the Truth
17 Carl Day
25 Sesame Street
33 ABC Evening News
34 American West
43 Gomer Pyle, USMC
45 Sesame Street
54 Weather
61 Lucy Show

6:15
54 Farm, Home & Garden

6:30
3-4-7-12-13-21 NBC Nightly News
5-6-23-24 ABC Evening News
8-9-10-11-27-35 CBS Evening News
17 Pioneers (bw)
33 Bonanza
34 Blind Guys
43 Green Acres
54 Garden Club
61 McHale's Navy (bw)

7:00
3-6-7-10-12 News
4 Beat the Clock
5-11 To Tell the Truth
8-9-27 Truth or Consequences
13 What's My Line?
17 Lawrence Welk
21-24 Mission: Impossible
23 Tarzan
25 Theatre
34 Hathayoga
35 Celebrity Bowling
43 Hogan's Heroes
45 Zoom
54 Hodgepodge Lodge
61 Beverly Hillbillies

7:30
3-9 Price is Right
4-12 Hollywood Squares
5 Wilid, Wild World of Animals
6-27 To Tell the Truth
7 Baseball: Pittsburgh-NY Mets, Gm 1 (JIP/via KDKA)
8 Baseball: Cleveland-Baltimore (commentators Harry Jones and Jim "Mudcat" Grant)
10 New Price is Right
11 Baseball: Detroit-Boston (via WJBK/commentators George Kell and Harry Osterman)
13-35 Truth or Consequences
25-54 Journey to Japan
33 I Love Lucy
34 34 Reports
43 Hogan's Heroes
45 Electric Company
61 Night Gallery

8:00
3-4-12-13-21 Adam-12
5-6-23-24 Happy Days
7 Firehouse
9-27-43 Maude
10 How a Police Review Board Works (NYPD's, to be precise)
17 Movie "Yes, Madam" (bw)
25-34-45-54 Man Builds, Man Destroys (25-34-54 looks at greenbelts in London, Ube (Japan), and Germany's Ruhr Valley; over on 45, it's a look at preservation of historical sites)
33 Baseball: Cleveland-Baltimore (relays WJW)
35 TBA
61 Avengers

8:30
3-4-12-13-21 Faraday & Company
5-23-24 Movie "The Gun and the Pulpit"
6 Movie "Wake Me When the War is Over"
7-35 Baseball: Pittsburgh-NY Mets, Game 2 (via KDKA)
8-10-27-43 Hawaii Five-O
25-34-54 Eye to Eye (Series return)
45 Naturalists

9:00
25-34-45-54 What's the Big Idea? (25-34-54 looks at how wives and mothers have affected Presidents; on 45: a 1972 forum on challenges to American institutions)
61 Movie "Come Fill the Cup" (bw)

9:30
9 Odd Couple
10 Paul Sands in Friends & Lovers (pilot)
17 Movie "Exclusive" (bw)
27 Elizabeth R
43 Movie "Dakota" (bw)

10:00
3-4-12-13-21 Police Story
5-6-9-23-24 Marcus Welby, MD
8 Thrillseekers
10 Dominic's Dream (pilot)
11 Hollywood Squares
25 Firing Line
34-54 You Owe It to Yourself
45 Dollar Decisions

10:30
8 Other People, Other Places
10 Fess Parker (pilot)
11 Wild Kingdom
34 Your Future is Now
45 Black Horizons
54 Day at Night

11:00
3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-17-21-24-27-33-35 News
23 Porter Wagoner
43 Thriller (bw)
61 Movie "Dreamboat" (bw)

11:30
3-4-7-12-13-21 Tonight Show
5-23-24-33 Wide World Mystery "Nightmare Step"
6 Mission: Impossible
9-11-27-35 Movie "The Fiend Who Walked the West" (bw)
10 Movie "Maxime"
17 Dr. Joyce Brothers

11:35
17 Movie "There Ain't No Justice" (bw)

11:40
8 Movie "Pretty Poison"

Late Night
midnight
43 One Step Beyond (bw)

12:30
43 News

12:55
17 Jobs Now

1:00
3-4-7-12-21 Tomorrow
5-13-23 News

1:20
8 Movie "I'll Get You" (bw)

1:30
11 News

2:00
3-4-12 News

3:20
8 News
 
Some of the Cleveland Suburbs had Cable years before downtown Cleveland..I believe The only out of market stations they carried were WAKR-TV Akron, 12 and 35 in Erie and CFPL London Ontario The City of Cleveland didnt get wired for Cable till 1987..

Here is what was on Warner Amex in the Canton/Stark County, Ohio area in 1974

3 WKYC (NBC) Cleveland
5 WEWS (ABC) Cleveland
7 WTRF (NBC) Wheeling, W. Va.
8 WJW (CBS) Cleveland
9 WSTV (CBS) Steubenville, Oh.
17 WJAN (IND) Canton
21 WFMJ (NBC) Youngstown
23 WAKR (ABC) Akron
25 WVIZ (NET) Cleveland
27 WKBN (CBS) Youngstown
33 WYTV (ABC) Youngstown
43 WUAB (IND) Cleveland
61 WKBF (IND) Cleveland
 
Bluenoser said:
7:30
3-9 Price is Right
4-12 Hollywood Squares
5 Wilid, Wild World of Animals
6-27 To Tell the Truth
7 Baseball: Pittsburgh-NY Mets, Gm 1 (JIP/via KDKA)
8 Baseball: Cleveland-Baltimore (commentators Harry Jones and Jim "Mudcat" Grant)
10 New Price is Right
11 Baseball: Detroit-Boston (via WJBK/commentators George Kell and Harry Osterman)
13-35 Truth or Consequences
25-54 Journey to Japan
33 I Love Lucy
34 34 Reports
43 Hogan's Heroes
45 Electric Company
61 Night Gallery

8:00
3-4-12-13-21 Adam-12
5-6-23-24 Happy Days
7 Firehouse
9-27-43 Maude
10 How a Police Review Board Works (NYPD's, to be precise)
17 Movie "Yes, Madam" (bw)
25-34-45-54 Man Builds, Man Destroys (25-34-54 looks at greenbelts in London, Ube (Japan), and Germany's Ruhr Valley; over on 45, it's a look at preservation of historical sites)
33 Baseball: Cleveland-Baltimore (relays WJW)
35 TBA
61 Avengers

8:30
3-4-12-13-21 Faraday & Company
5-23-24 Movie "The Gun and the Pulpit"
6 Movie "Wake Me When the War is Over"
7-35 Baseball: Pittsburgh-NY Mets, Game 2 (via KDKA)
8-10-27-43 Hawaii Five-O
25-34-54 Eye to Eye (Series return)
45 Naturalists

Boy, this was a busy night for syndicated regional baseball in the Great Lakes. Three different teams had stations covered by this edition. Questions for this inquiring mind:

1) Any idea who the Pirates broadcasters were? Rather strange for TV Guide not to list them, while listing those on the other games.

2) While it seems geographically appropriate for Youngstown's WYTV to carry Indians games and Erie's WSEE to carry Pirates games, is it not really the case that Youngstown is closer to Pittsburgh than Cleveland and Erie closer to Cleveland than Pittsburgh? One wonders about the territorial lines of MLB broadcasting, whether they were (and are) set by the teams themselves or, say, by the commissioner's office.

3) I've never heard of Harry Osterman, who did color on the Tigers broadcasts. Did he play in the major leagues at one time? Mudcat Grant, at least, was a former Indians pitcher in the 1960s.

Another point: although not carrying a game on this night, Columbus' WLWC, of course, was part of the AVCO WLW network and thus carried Cincinnati Reds games on Sundays and sometimes during the week, so that makes FOUR different teams that had affiliates in this edition.
 
Boy, this was a busy night for syndicated regional baseball in the Great Lakes. Three different teams had stations covered by this edition. Questions for this inquiring mind:

1) Any idea who the Pirates broadcasters were? Rather strange for TV Guide not to list them, while listing those on the other games.


Bob Prince and Nellie King, Ex Major-League Pitcher


2) While it seems geographically appropriate for Youngstown's WYTV to carry Indians games and Erie's WSEE to carry Pirates games, is it not really the case that Youngstown is closer to Pittsburgh than Cleveland and Erie closer to Cleveland than Pittsburgh? One wonders about the territorial lines of MLB broadcasting, whether they were (and are) set by the teams themselves or, say, by the commissioner's office.


Probably the teams and the networks..Though a lot has to do with tradition..For a time WKBN carried Pirates Games in Youmgstown..In earlier times, (1950's) WKBN had the Indians and WKST-45 (WYTV forerunner) had the Pirates..seemed to change every few years..

3) I've never heard of Harry Osterman, who did color on the Tigers broadcasts. Did he play in the major leagues at one time? Mudcat Grant, at least, was a former Indians pitcher in the 1960s.


George Kell was the former player..Osterman did PBP for the Tigers from 1961-77 on Broadcast TV, then on PASS Cable in 1984, He worked in TV for the Minnesota Twins from 1979-83

A nice bio on Osterman:

http://bioproj.sabr.org/bioproj.cfm?a=v&v=l&bid=1844&pid=19551

Quote from Mike Stroud
Another point: although not carrying a game on this night, Columbus' WLWC, of course, was part of the AVCO WLW network and thus carried Cincinnati Reds games on Sundays and sometimes during the week, so that makes FOUR different teams that had affiliates in this edition.
 
Status
This thread has been closed due to inactivity. You can create a new thread to discuss this topic.


Back
Top Bottom