Retro: Detroit, Monday, Oct 5, 1981

[south_ferretti]

from Detroit Free Press

2 WJBK CBS Detroit
6:30 Ed Allen
7:00 Morning Magazine
7:30 Morning with Charles Kuralt
9:00 Alice
9:30 Newlywed Game
10:00 Donahue
11:00 Price is Right
12:00 News
12:30 Young and the Restless
1:30 As the World Turns
2:30 Search for Tomorrow
3:00 Guiding Light
4:00 The Rockford Files
5:00 The Muppets
5:30 News
6:30 CBS Evening News
7:00 The Muppets (guest Judy Collins)
7:30 PM Magazine
8:00 Great Movie Stunts "Raiders of the Lost Ark"
9:00 Movie "The Miracle of Kathy Miller"
11:00 News
11:30 Saturday Night
12:30 Carol Burnett & Friends
1:00 The Rookies
2:00 Marcus Welby, MD

4 WDIV NBC Detroit
6:00 Classroom
6:30 Bewitched
6:53 Kidbits
7:00 Today
9:00 Richard Simmons
9:30 Sonya
10:30 Blockbusters
11:00 Wheel of Fortune
11:30 Charlie Rose
12:00 News
12:30 The Doctors
1:00 Days of Our Lives
2:00 Another World
3:00 Texas
4:00 The Jeffersons
4:30 All in the Family
5:00 Barney Miller
5:30 News
6:30 NBC Nightly News
7:00 Joker's Wild
7:30 Bullseye
8:00 Little House on the Prairie
9:00 Movie "Sidney Shorr" (pilot for TV show Love, Sidney)
11:00 News
11:30 Best of Carson
12:30 Entertainment Tonight
1:00 Tomorrow
2:30 News Replay
3:00 Sonya

7 WXYZ ABC Detroit
6:00 News
6:30 No Nonsense Exercise
7:00 Good Morning America
9:00 Kelly & Company
10:30 The Edge of Night
11:00 The Love Boat
12:00 Family Feud
12:30 Ryan's Hope
1:00 All My Children
2:00 One Life to Live
3:00 General Hospital
4:00 Movie "Cahill: United States Marshal"
5:30 News
7:00 ABC World News Tonight
7:30 People's Court
8:00 That's Incredible!
9:00 NFL: Atlanta at Philadelphia
11:45 News
12:15 Nightline
12:45 Movie "Honor Thy Father"

9 CBET CBC Windsor
9:15 Ed Allen
9:45 Friendly Giant
10:00 Provincial Schools
10:30 Mr. Dressup
11:00 Sesame Street
12:00 Movie "A Man Called Gannon"
2:00 Wok with Yan
2:30 McLean at Large
3:30 Take 30
4:00 Mary Tyler Moore
4:30 The Beachcombers
5:00 Courtship of Eddie's Father
5:30 Carol Burnett & Friends
6:00 News
7:00 Hawaii Five-O
8:00 Agriscope
8:30 Flappers
9:00 United Way Variety Show
9:30 British Comedy
10:00 Lucinda Brayford
11:00 The National
11:25 News
11:45 Movie "Fighter Attack"

11 WTOL CBS Toledo
6:30 Great Space Coaster
7:00 Wake Up with the Captain
7:30 Morning with Charles Kuralt
9:00 Richard Simmons
9:30 Up to the Minute (short-lived CBS newsmagazine)
10:00 One Day at a Time
10:30 Alice
11:00 Price is Right
12:00 News
12:30 Young and the Restless
1:30 As the World Turns
2:30 Search for Tomorrow
3:00 Guiding Light
4:00 Movie "Take the Money and Run"
6:00 News
6:30 CBS Evening News
7:00 PM Magazine
7:30 Family Feud
8:00 Great Movie Stunts "Raiders of the Lost Ark"
9:00 Movie "The Miracle of Kathy Miller"
11:00 News
11:30 Quincy, ME
12:40 Harry O
1:50 News Replay

13 WTVG NBC Toledo
5:55 700 Club
7:00 Today
9:00 Donahue
10:00 Charlie Rose
10:30 Blockbusters
11:00 Wheel of Fortune
11:30 Password Plus
12:00 News
12:30 The Doctors
1:00 Days of Our Lives
2:00 Another World
3:00 Texas
4:00 The Rockford Files
5:00 Happy Days Again
5:30 M*A*S*H
6:00 News
6:30 NBC Nightly News
7:00 The Muppets
7:30 Barney Miller
8:00 Little House on the Prairie
9:00 Movie "Sidney Shorr"
11:00 News
11:30 Best of Carson
12:30 Tomorrow

20 WXON Ind/ONTV Detroit
(s) subscription programs only
6:30 Viewpoint
7:00 700 Club
8:30 Movie "The Judge & Jake Wyler"
10:00 700 Club
11:30 News
11:45 Viewpoint
12:00 Leave It to the Women
12:30 Rhoda
1:00 Get Smart
1:30 Gomer Pyle, USMC
2:00 The Twilight Zone
2:30 Leave It to Beaver
3:00 Popeye & Friends
3:30 Mighty Mouse & Friends
4:00 Krofft Superstars
4:30 Fred Flintstone & Friends
5:00 Little Rascals
5:30 Bionic Woman
6:30 Sha Na Na
7:00 Baretta
8:00 Movie "The Parallax View" (s)
9:45 Movie "Massacre at Central High" (s)
11:15 Burns & Allen (s)

24 WDHO ABC Toledo
5:50 Jim Bakker
6:50 Good Morning Toledo
7:00 Good Morning America
9:00 Hour Magazine
10:00 AM Magazine
11:00 The Love Boat
12:00 Family Feud
12:30 Ryan's Hope
1:00 All My Children
2:00 One Life to Live
3:00 General Hospital
4:00 Bugs Bunny
4:30 Porky Pig
5:00 Tom & Jerry
5:30 Welcome Back, Kotter
6:00 News
6:30 ABC World News Tonight
7:00 Here's Lucy
7:30 You Asked for It
8:00 That's Incredible!
9:00 NFL: Atlanta at Philadelphia
11:45 News
12:15 Nightline

31 WIHT Ind/IHT Ann Arbor
(s) subscription programs only
7:00 New Zoo Revue
7:30 Hot Fudge
8:00 It's Academic
8:30 Health Field
9:00 Susan Noon
9:30 Fran Carlton
10:00 700 Club
11:30 Another Life
12:00 Freeman Reports
1:00 Movie "Shinebone Alley" (s)
3:00 Muriel Stevens
3:30 The Women's Channel
4:00 Mike Douglas (listed as a 30-minute show)
4:30 Hollywood Report
6:00 Journey to Adventure
6:30 Tavi
7:00 Help Wanted
7:30 This Week
8:00 Movie "Somewhere in Time" (s)
10:00 Movie "The Revolutionary" (s)
12:00 Movie "Pick-Up" (s)
1:30 Movie "Fists of Fury" (s)

32 CICA TVO Windsor
8:00 Polka Dot Door
8:30 Tales of Magic
8:45 Mister Rogers' Neighborhood
9:15 Report Canada/Readalong
9:30 Mathmakers
9:45 Dragons, Wagons & Wax
10:00 Write On/Parlez Moi
10:15 Eureka!/Landmarks
10:30 Jeremy
11:00 Passe-Partout
11:30 Take Hart/Look & Learn
12:00 The Sullivans (Australian serial)
1:00 In Their Shoes
1:15 Parlez-Moi/Write On
1:30 Report Canada/Educational
2:00 Read All About It
2:15 Get It Together/Tradeoffs
2:45 Thinkabout
3:00 A Different Understanding
3:30 Windsor Project
4:00 Passe-Partout
4:30 Hattytown Tales
5:00 Sesame Street
6:00 Polka Dot Door
6:30 Jeremy
7:00 Don't Ask Me
7:30 Magic Shadows "For Heaven's Sake" (part 1)
8:00 La Traviata
11:00 TBA

42 CKCO CTV Sarnia
6:00 University of the Air
6:30 Joyce Davidson
7:00 Canada AM
9:00 Romper Room
9:30 Tempo Ontario
10:30 What's Cooking
11:00 Super Pay Cards
11:30 Definition
12:00 Space Angel
12:25 AgriNews
12:30 Here's Lucy
1:00 Alan Thicke
2:00 Another World
3:00 Texas
4:00 The Waltons
5:00 Match Game
5:30 Hogan's Heroes
6:00 News
7:00 Family Feud
7:30 Bizarre
8:00 House Calls
8:30 Headline Hunters
9:00 Movie "Return of the Beverly Hillbillies"
11:00 CTV National News
11:20 News
12:00 John Davidson

50 WKBD Ind Detroit
6:00 Jimmy Swaggart
6:30 Health Field
7:00 Tom & Jerry
7:30 Great Space Coaster
8:00 The Flintstones
8:30 Hot Fudge
9:00 Gilligan's Island
9:30 Family Affair
10:00 Morning Break
10:30 Beverly Hillbillies
11:00 Please Don't Eat the Daisies
11:30 The Munsters
12:00 Andy Griffith
12:30 I Love Lucy
1:00 Movie "Duel in the Sun" (part 1)
3:00 Bugs Bunny
3:30 Woody Woodpecker
4:00 The Flintstones
4:30 Scooby-Doo
5:00/5:30 Brady Bunch
6:00 Happy Days Again
6:30 Laverne & Shirley and Company
7:00 Welcome Back, Kotter
7:30 M*A*S*H
8:00 Movie "Breakfast at Tiffany's"
10:00 INN News
10:30 Prisoner: Cell Block H (Australian serial)
11:00 M*A*S*H
11:30 Sanford & Son
12:00 The Three Stooges
12:25 Movie "Mississippi"

56 WTVS PBS Detroit
6:00 American Mosaic
6:30 Spoonful of Lovin'
7:00 AM Weather
7:15 Legacy Americans
7:45 MacNeil/Lehrer Report
8:15 Over Easy
8:45 Lilias, Yoga & You
9:15 Educational programs
10:00 Sesame Street
11:00 Studio See
11:30 The Electric Company
12:00 Mister Rogers' Neighborhood
12:30 Lilias, Yoga & You
1:00 Educational programs
2:00 Sesame Street
3:00 Julia Child
3:30 Dick Cavett
4:00 Over Easy
4:30 Antiques
5:00 Culture/Identity
5:30 Changing Life on Earth
6:00 American Mosaic
6:30 America to the Moon
7:00 Wild, Wild World of Animals
7:30 MacNeil/Lehrer Report
8:00 Great Performances "Ormandy Conducts: Pictures at an Exhibition"
9:00 Non-Fiction Television "Pesticides & Pills: For Export Only" (part 1)
10:00 News
10:30 Nevada Fallout: The Hot Years
11:00 Jack Benny
11:30 Soundstage "Emmylou Harris"
12:30 News
1:00 Great Performances "Ormandy Conducts: Pictures at an Exhibition"
2:00 Non-Fiction Television "Pesticides & Pills: For Export Only" (part 1)
3:00 Return to Space
4:00 Dick Cavett
4:30 Captioned ABC News

62 WGPR Ind Detroit
6:30 Information
7:00 Jim Bakker
8:00 Funny Fables
8:30 Villa Alegre
9:00 Saber of Scotland Yard
9:30 Adventures of the Falcon
10:00 News
10:30 Black Woman
11:00 Jim Bakker
12:00 Jack Rehburg
1:00 Movie "The Girl in Room 13"
3:00 Jim Bakker
4:00 Hilarious House of Frightenstein
4:30 Watch Your Mouth
5:00 The Scene
6:00 News
6:30 From Jumpstreet
7:00 Film Feature
8:00 Hour of Truth
9:00 Jim Bakker
10:00 Faith for Miracles
11:00 Alive
12:00 Movie "Kung Fury"
1:45 News
2:00 Movie "Champ for a Day"
3:30 Movie "The Daydreamer"

78 CBEFT SRC Windsor
9:00 En Mouvement
9:15 Les Oraliens
9:45 Tape-Tambour
10:00 Passe-Partout
10:30 Magazine-Express
11:00 Mon Pays, Mes Amours
11:30 Capitaine Caverne
11:55 Les Pierrafeu (The Flintstones)
12:15 Le Telejournal
12:30 Allo Bou Bou
1:30 Femme d'Aujourd'hui
2:30 Splendeurs et Miseres
4:00 Bobino
4:30 Edgar Allan, Detective
6:00 Ce Soir/Nouvelles du Sport/Telex Arts
6:10 Ce Soir en Ontario
6:30 Ce Soir/Nouvelles du Sport/Telex Arts
7:00 La Fine Cuisine d'Henri Bernard
7:30 Terre Humaine
8:00 Cinema "L'Insigne Pletin"
10:00 Vivre Ici Maintenant
10:30 Le Telejournal
10:55 Telejournal Regional
11:15 Femme d'Aujourd'hui
12:15 La Couronne du Diable

 

[CCBInMI]

I always find it interesting that CKCO on channel 42 was in the Detroit listings but Global on channel 29 was not. (I believe Windsor's channel 22 was off the air at that time.)

The Windsor Star had listings for all of these plus Global 29, WKYC 3 (NBC), WEWS 5 (ABC), WJKW 8 (CBS) and WUAB 43 (Ind.) from Cleveland and CFPL 10 (CBC) London. TVO was also listed on Channel 59 from Chatham. Later CHCH Hamilton and CFMT and CITY Toronto were added due to cable carriage.

 

[Markd]

WKBD 50 had the strongest lineup of all the independent stations. It was the only Field Communications station left running an afternoon movie. This station was more movie based than sister Field stations. WFLD Chicago had very few movies and none in daytime or prime time. WKBS TV Philadelphia had only very old movies when they ran them. WKBD was the only Field station to have M*A*S*H. They were an allaround strng station. WXON 20 had OKAY nothing great programming. Very weak for being one of three independents but at least the station had some viable cartoons and a few viable old classic comedy shows. Was quite unusual they had pay TV after 7 PM as a second independent. 62 WGPR was extremely weak. They were part Christian owned and part Masons owned and fully black owned. The station was owned by two groups of black men that had polar opposite religious philosophies but the common ground was the programming that appealed to the black community. WGPR did produce a large amount of programming for that community. Stlll could have been a stronger station. Also Channel 62 WGPR had a pay TV license they never used. Later in the 80's Channel 20 became stronger, WKBD was sold to Cox in 84 and to Paramount in 87. By 1990 Fox 50 WKBD and 20 WXON were head to head though 50 was higher rated than 20 still. Channel 62 was way behind and then in 1989 another black group put 38 WADL on the air with a similar format to WGPR. So you had 2 major player indies and 2 very weak indies.

Then in late in 1994 WJBK evicted CBS for Fox in a corporate deal. Channel 7 stayed with ABC and Channel 4 stayed with NBC. Channel 50 stayed an independent but kept the Fox Kids which WJBK did not take. Channel 20 also stayed an independent as well. 50 took UPN while 20 took WB. CBS then bought WGPR making the station WWJ TV and built an O & O from scratch. By 1998 WADL began running stronger programs...more drama shows, more sitcoms, and cartoons from Fox Kids. Eventually Channel 50 and 62 become under one company. CBS takes the WB for 50 which became the CW. Channel 20 took syndicated My Network TV. Channel 38 stayed an independent. Channels 2 and 4 stayed stand alone stations. Kids shows gradually disappeared everywhere from 1998 to 2006. But I could not get over how weak of a station WGPR was before CBS got it. It was nice to see the 2 independents (including 50 as a fox affiliate) stay independent with WGPR TV taking CBS. People in Detroit gained by Fox moving to WJBK.

 

[classictvfan]

WKBD 50 had the strongest lineup of all the independent stations. It was the only Field Communications station left running an afternoon movie. This station was more movie based than sister Field stations. WFLD Chicago had very few movies and none in daytime or prime time. WKBS TV Philadelphia had only very old movies when they ran them. WKBD was the only Field station to have M*A*S*H. They were an allaround strng station. WXON 20 had OKAY nothing great programming. Very weak for being one of three independents but at least the station had some viable cartoons and a few viable old classic comedy shows. Was quite unusual they had pay TV after 7 PM as a second independent. 62 WGPR was extremely weak. They were part Christian owned and part Masons owned and fully black owned. The station was owned by two groups of black men that had polar opposite religious philosophies but the common ground was the programming that appealed to the black community. WGPR did produce a large amount of programming for that community. Stlll could have been a stronger station. Also Channel 62 WGPR had a pay TV license they never used. Later in the 80's Channel 20 became stronger, WKBD was sold to Cox in 84 and to Paramount in 87. By 1990 Fox 50 WKBD and 20 WXON were head to head though 50 was higher rated than 20 still. Channel 62 was way behind and then in 1989 another black group put 38 WADL on the air with a similar format to WGPR. So you had 2 major player indies and 2 very weak indies.

Then in late in 1994 WJBK evicted CBS for Fox in a corporate deal. Channel 7 stayed with ABC and Channel 4 stayed with NBC. Channel 50 stayed an independent but kept the Fox Kids which WJBK did not take. Channel 20 also stayed an independent as well. 50 took UPN while 20 took WB. CBS then bought WGPR making the station WWJ TV and built an O & O from scratch. By 1998 WADL began running stronger programs...more drama shows, more sitcoms, and cartoons from Fox Kids. Eventually Channel 50 and 62 become under one company. CBS takes the WB for 50 which became the CW. Channel 20 took syndicated My Network TV. Channel 38 stayed an independent. Channels 2 and 4 stayed stand alone stations. Kids shows gradually disappeared everywhere from 1998 to 2006. But I could not get over how weak of a station WGPR was before CBS got it. It was nice to see the 2 independents (including 50 as a fox affiliate) stay independent with WGPR TV taking CBS. People in Detroit gained by Fox moving to WJBK.

I notice you have always had an interest in Independent stations in major markets

 

[classictvfan]

WKBD 50 had the strongest lineup of all the independent stations. It was the only Field Communications station left running an afternoon movie. This station was more movie based than sister Field stations. WFLD Chicago had very few movies and none in daytime or prime time. WKBS TV Philadelphia had only very old movies when they ran them. WKBD was the only Field station to have M*A*S*H.

One correction:WFLD in Chicago also had M*A*S*H

 

[ftballfan]

WKBD also had significant cable carriage in Michigan and into Ohio and even far northern Wisconsin. About the only parts of Michigan that never had WKBD on cable were far southwest Michigan (such as Benton Harbor/St. Joseph, which had WGN, WFLD, and/or WSNS) and west central Michigan (Ludington and Manistee, which had WVTV, then WGN prior to that station going on the satellites). WKBD was dropped in the northern Lower Peninsula, the UP, and northern Wisconsin for then-WGKI (which had a secondary UPN affiliation in addition to its primary FOX affiliation) when WKBD dropped FOX for UPN. WKBD, after switching to UPN, did retain cable carriage in the Grand Rapids, Lansing, and Flint-Saginaw markets as none of those three markets had a full-time UPN station at launch (all three would eventually get a UPN affiliate, which took over WKBD's cable channel in most cases)

WXON never had much out of market cable carriage (I think they may have made it into Flint at one point, but not into Lansing or Jackson or Toledo). Until WGPR became a CBS affiliate, it was missing from cable systems in outlying areas of the Detroit market. It was only a couple of years ago when WWJ was finally added to the cable system serving southern Monroe County (which is in the Detroit market despite bordering Toledo)

 

[classictvfan]

WXON never had much out of market cable carriage (I think they may have made it into Flint at one point, but not into Lansing or Jackson or Toledo). Until WGPR became a CBS affiliate, it was missing from cable systems in outlying areas of the Detroit market. It was only a couple of years ago when WWJ was finally added to the cable system serving southern Monroe County (which is in the Detroit market despite bordering Toledo)

Actually, WXON did make it into Toledo, as evidenced by listings for Toledo(
from The Toledo Blade) on this board

 

[Markd]

Yes I tend to...But do have interest in network affiliates as well. But yes independent station more so...including Fox affiliates which I consider independents.

 

[Markd]

One correction:WFLD in Chicago also had M*A*S*H

ABSOLUTELY!!! CORRECT!!! I FORGOT...WFLD certainly had MASH and All In The Family and What's Happening and Happy Days..all won in a huge swoop in 78 for the fall of 79. They kicked WGN TV's butt soundly and put WSNS out of business into a specialty format which they still have today (well a specialty format but a different one...intitally the format became part time pay TV then full time Pay TV then Full Time Spanish with SIN (Now Univision) Then Telemundo....But yes WKBD and WFLD were the heavy weights with WLVI and KBHK also doing quite well while WKBS was the weakest link though still fairly strong.