Retro: Detroit/Toledo Sun, Nov 21, 1965

[Bluenoser]

from TV Guide: Detroit edition

2 WJBK-CBS Detroit * 4 WWJ-NBC Detroit * 7 WXYZ-ABC Detroit *
9 CKLW-CBC Windsor * 11 WTOL-CBS/NBC Toledo * 13 WSPD-ABC/NBC Toledo *
50 WKBD-Ind Detroit * 56 WTVS-Educational Detroit

Morning

6:30
7 Seekers

6:40
2 News

6:45
2 Accent

7:00
2 Look Up & Live
7 Rural Newsreel

7:25
4 News

7:30
2 Gospel Time
4 Country Living
7 Water Wonderland

7:55
13 Prayer for Today

8:00
2 This is the Life
4 Eternal Light
7 Search
11 Singing Jubilee
13 Children's Gospel Hour

8:15
9 Sacred Heart

8:30
2 Temple Baptist Church
4 Church at the Crossroads
7 Understanding Our World
9 Hymn Sing
13 Hour of St. Francis

8:55
4 Newsworthy

9:00
2 Mass for Shut-Ins
4 Bozo the Clown
7 Wally, Lippy & Touche
9 Oral Roberts
11 Mr. T's Sunday Show
13 Religious News

9:15
13 Davey & Goliath

9:30
2 With This Ring
7 Voyage to Adventure
9 Cathedral of Tomorrow
13 This is the Answer

9:45
2 To Dwell Together

10:00
2 Let's See
7 Annie Oakley
11 Sunday Sanctuary
13 Worship for Shut-Ins

10:30
2 Faith for Today
7 Beany & Cecil
9 Herald of Truth
11 Look Up & Live
13 Salty's Cartoon Party

10:45
4 Davey & Goliath

11:00
2 Movie "Ramar & the Hidden Terrors"
4 House Detective
7 Bullwinkle
9 Pinocchio
11 Camera Three

11:30
7-13 Discovery '65
9 Shirley Temple Theater "Little Miss Broadway"
11 Sacred Heart

11:45
11 News (Don Edwards)

Afternoon

Noon
4 University of Michigan Presents "I Talk American"
7 Championship Bowling: Mike Limongello takes on Ed Bourdase, with host Fred Wolf
11 Comment
13 This is the Life
50 Profiles

12:30
2 Face the Nation (Richard Nixon is the guest)
4 Quiz 'Em: Harvey H. Lowrey High (Dearborn)-Marine City High
11 Movie "Viva Zapata"
13 Insight
50 Michigan State Presents

1:00
2 TBA
4-13 NFL: Houston-New York (Jets 41-Oilers 14)
7 Big Show "Tissue of Hate"
9 Bill Kennedy Showtime "Hell to Eternity" (Arlene Dahl is Bill's guest)
50 Gospel Jubilee (from Nashville)

1:30
2 Meditation Service

2:00
2 Great Moments in Music
7 Spotlight
50 Islands in the Sun

2:15
2 Changing Times

2:30
2 America!
7 Directions '66
11 Jungle Theater "Devil Goddess" (Jungle Jim)
50 American West

3:00
2 Decision: Harry S Truman
7 Issues & Answers
50 Wanderlust

3:30
2 TV2 Reports
7 Church Service: Thanksgiving service from First Baptist Church, Birmingham
9 Movie "Hannibal"
50 Holiday

4:00
2 Littlest Hobo
4 Meet the Press (Postmaster-General Lawrence F. O'Brien)
7 Range Rider
11 Ramar
13 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (bio narrated by Cliff Robertson, who played JFK in PT-109)
50 All-Star Golf

4:30
2 Sea Hunt
4 Sports in Action: conclusion of Tour de France
7 Cartoon Fun
11 Great Outdoors

5:00
2 Masterpiece Movie "Untamed"
4 Wild Kingdom
7 Award Movie "The True Story of Jesse James"
11 Rocky & His Friends
13 High School Quiz
50 Match Game Bowling

5:30
4 GE College Bowl: Earlham College (Richmond, IN)-winner of St. Peter's College (Jersey City, NJ)/Rockford (IL) College)
11 Sea Hunt
13 Science in Action

Evening

6:00
4 News (Ven Marshall)
9 Route 66
11 Movie "The Unforgiven"
13 For the Record
50 Film Feature: Darlington 500 auto race
56 Musicale

6:15
4 Weather (Bob Edwards)

6:20
4 Sports (Tom Hemingway)

6:30
4 Bell Telephone Hour
13 Men in Crisis
56 Mythology

6:45
50 Hockey Preview (Sid Abel)

6:55
50 NHL: Detroit-New York (with Bruce Martyn and Budd Lynch)

7:00
2 Lassie
7-13 Voyage
9 Theater Nine "Sands of Iwo Jima"
56 Houston Symphony

7:30
2 My Favorite Martian
4 Walt Disney's World "The Three Lives of Thomasina" (pt 2 of 3)

8:00
2-11 Ed Sullivan
7-13 FBI
56 Saki

8:30
4 Branded

9:00
2 Perry Mason
4-11 Bonanza
7-13 Sunday Night Movie "Say One for Me"
9 Let's Sing Out

9:30
9 Pierre Berton

9:45
50 Action Scoreboard

10:00
2-11 Candid Camera
4 Wackiest Ship in the Army
9 This Hour Has Seven Days
50 College Football: Notre Dame-Michigan State

10:30
2-11 What's My Line

11:00
2 News (Jac LeGoff)
4 News (Ven Marshall)
9 CBC News (Earl Cameron)
11 News (Clem Gendron)

11:10
9 About Town
11 Weather (Joe Ashton)

11:15
2 Weather
4 Weather (Bob Edwards)
7 News/Sports
11 Sports (Terry Shaw)
13 News/Weather/Sports

11:20
2 Sports (Ray Lane)
4 Sports (Tom Hemingway)
9 Adults Only "Anna Lucasta"
11 Mystery Theater "Black Hand"

11:25
2 Best of Hollywood "Bonjour Tristesse"

11:30
4 Beat the Champ: Mike Samardzija takes on last week's winner
7 News (Barney Morris)

11:35
13 Movie "Cash McCall"

11:40
7 Movie "Meet Danny Wilson"

Late Night

12:30
4 News/Weather

1:00
9 Window on the World

1:15
2 With This Ring

1:40
7 News/Weather

 

[bayusm1]

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> Great Moments in Music
Changing Times>
>
Infomercials

 

[DrBear]

> 11 Mr. T's Sunday Show
I pity the fool who doesn't go to church!

> 7 Beany & Cecil
I wonder why this isn't rerun any more?

> 1:00
> 2 TBA
> 4-13 NFL: Houston-New York (Jets 41-Oilers 14)
The Lions were home Nov. 21, 1965 - A 10-10 tie at halftime quickly turned into a 17-10 Chicago lead as Gale Sayers scored on the Bears' first possession of the third quarter. That was all they needed; Detroit couldn't advance and Chicago controlled the ball until time ran out.

> 13 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (bio narrated by Cliff Robertson,
> who played JFK in PT-109)
On the second anniversary weekend of his assassinati on - JFK's, not Robertson's.

> 4 Sports in Action: conclusion of Tour de France
(NBC Sports in Action was the network's answer to Wide World of Sports. Wonder how old Lance Armstrong was at the time.)

> 50 College Football: Notre Dame-Michigan State
Probably the Lindsey Nelson 90-minute edited replay syndicated by C.D. Chesley. The famous 10-10 tie was the following year.
>

 

[Joseph_Gallant]

In 1965, when an NFL team was at home, not only was the game blacked-out in the city the game was being played in (and any markets within 75 miles, such as Toledo), sellout or not, but no other NFL games could be televised into a city hosting a home game either.

Thus, viewers in Detroit and Toledo that year could not see any NFL games when the Lions were at home.

 

[dgabenski]

> In 1965, when an NFL team was at home, not only was the game
> blacked-out in the city the game was being played in (and
> any markets within 75 miles, such as Toledo), sellout or
> not, but no other NFL games could be televised into a city
> hosting a home game either.
>
> Thus, viewers in Detroit and Toledo that year could not see
> any NFL games when the Lions were at home.
>
And this was a tragedy, why?.... That's what I thought!

 

[dgabenski]

> > 11 Mr. T's Sunday Show
> I pity the fool who doesn't go to church!
> Wrong Mr. T but I love the humor!
> > 7 Beany & Cecil
> I wonder why this isn't rerun any more?
>
> > 1:00
> > 2 TBA
> > 4-13 NFL: Houston-New York (Jets 41-Oilers 14)
> The Lions were home Nov. 21, 1965 - A 10-10 tie at halftime
> quickly turned into a 17-10 Chicago lead as Gale Sayers
> scored on the Bears' first possession of the third quarter.
> That was all they needed; Detroit couldn't advance and
> Chicago controlled the ball until time ran out.
>
> > 13 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (bio narrated by Cliff
> Robertson,
> > who played JFK in PT-109)
> On the second anniversary weekend of his assassinati on -
> JFK's, not Robertson's.
>
> > 4 Sports in Action: conclusion of Tour de France
> (NBC Sports in Action was the network's answer to Wide World
> of Sports. Wonder how old Lance Armstrong was at the time.)
> You mean somebody else won the "Tour de France?"
> > 50 College Football: Notre Dame-Michigan State
> Probably the Lindsey Nelson 90-minute edited replay
> syndicated by C.D. Chesley. The famous 10-10 tie was the
> following year.
> >
>

 

[JeeperOne]

Hi everyone:

> from TV Guide: Detroit edition

[snip...]

> 1:00
> 2 TBA
> 4-13 NFL: Houston-New York (Jets 41-Oilers 14)

Not to get picky here, but wouldn't this be a game from the old AFL rather than the NFL?

And speaking of the NFL, isn't it peculiar that no game was listed for WTOL **OR** WJBK?? You would think WJBK would air an NFL game from CBS.

Thoughts or comments anyone?

Cheers

Pat

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[JeeperOne]

Hi everyone:

> In 1965, when an NFL team was at home, not only was the game
> blacked-out in the city the game was being played in (and
> any markets within 75 miles, such as Toledo), sellout or
> not, but no other NFL games could be televised into a city
> hosting a home game either.
>
> Thus, viewers in Detroit and Toledo that year could not see
> any NFL games when the Lions were at home.

Joe...The game on NBC was from the old AFL (Had to be). As such, they were NOT subject to the same rules as the NFL was (and still is today) and WDIV and Ch. 13 in Toledo were both able to televise the game, even though the Lions were at home.

Just figured I'd point out (what should've been) THE OBVIOUS to you.

Cheers everyone

Pat
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[EnbyCee]

> Hi everyone:
>
> > from TV Guide: Detroit edition
>
> [snip...]
>
> > 1:00
> > 2 TBA
> > 4-13 NFL: Houston-New York (Jets 41-Oilers 14)
>
> Not to get picky here, but wouldn't this be a game from the
> old AFL rather than the NFL?
>
> And speaking of the NFL, isn't it peculiar that no game was
> listed for WTOL **OR** WJBK?? You would think WJBK would
> air an NFL game from CBS.

Under the NFL blackout rules at the time, it's not peculiar. Until 1973, NFL teams' games were blacked out in their home market, regardless of whether or not they were sold out. Without having the time to look it up, I assume the Detroit Lions had a home game on this date, and I assume Toledo was also blacked out for Lions home games, due to its proximity to Detroit.