Retro: Detroit/Toledo Thurs, Nov 25, 1965

[Bluenoser]

Thanksgiving 1965, from TV Guide-Detroit edition

WJBK 2-CBS Detroit
6:15 On the Farm Scene
6:20 News
6:25 TBA
6:55 Editorial/News
7:05 CBS News
7:30 Happyland
8:00 Captain Kangaroo (the Captain talks about the Pilgrims and the origins of Thanksgiving)
9:00 Bowery Boys
10:00 Thanksgiving Parade Jubilee (Shari Lewis joins Captain Kangaroo at the Magic Window as they look in at parades in New York (Macy's/Arthur Godfrey & Bess Myerson), Philadelphia (Gimbels/Bud Collyer), Detroit (J.L. Hudson/Marilyn VanDerbur & Frank Gifford), and Toronto (Eaton's Santa Claus/Jack Linkletter))
noon Movie "The Lone Ranger"
1:30 Movie "Lassie Come Home"
3:00 To Tell the Truth
3:25 CBS News
3:30 Edge of Night
4:00 Secret Storm
4:30 Mike Douglas (guests Totie Fields, Shani Wallace, and the Four Seasons)
6:00 News
6:15 Editorial
6:20 Weather
6:25 Sports
6:30 CBS News
7:00 Zorro
7:30 Munsters
8:00 Gilligan's Island (c)
8:30 My Three Sons (c)
9:00 Thursday Night Movie "Mysterious Island" (c)
11:00 News
11:15 Editorial
11:20 News
11:25 Sports
11:30 Late Show "The Young Land" (c)
1:30 News/Weather

WWJ 4-NBC Detroit
6:30 Classroom (challenge of the "retirement years" on America's aging population)
7:00 Today (c/guests Michael Dyne and Frank Jenkins)
9:00 Living
9:55 News
10:00 Bozo the Clown (c)
10:15 J.L. Hudson Parade (Sonny Eliot covers the action)
11:00 Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade (c/JIP/Lorne Greene and Betty White)
noon Movie "Miracle on 34th Street"
1:30 College Football: Oklahoma-Nebraska (c)
4:30 AFL: Buffalo-San Diego (c)
7:30 Daniel Boone (c)
8:30 Music by Cole Porter (c/a musical tribute by Maurice Chevalier, Robert Goulet, Nancy Ames, and Peter Gennaro)
9:30 Mona McCluskey (c)
10:00 Dean Martin (c/guests Milton Berle, Lisa Kirk, Phil Ford & Mimi Hines, Xavier Cugat, Charo & Company, the Windsor Boys Choral Group, and Ronnie Demarco)
11:00 News
11:15 Weather
11:20 Sports
11:30 Tonight Show (c)
1:00 Beat the Champ
1:30 News/Weather

WXYZ 7-ABC Detroit
6:30 Funews (cartoons)
7:00 Johnny Ginger Carnival
8:00 Big Theater (Capt. Toby)
9:00 Rita Bell's Prize Movie "The Pied Piper of Hamelin" (c)
10:30 Girl Talk (guests Anne Blair and the wifes of the Iraqi, Spanish and Swiss Ambassadors to the US)
11:00 Young Set (guests Gloria Swanson and Budd Shulberg)
noon Donna Reed
12:30 Father Knows Beat
1:00 Ben Casey
2:00 Nurses
2:30 A Time for Us
2:55 ABC News
3:00 General Hospital
3:30 Young Marrieds
4:00 Never Too Young
4:30 Where the Action is (guests Bobby Vee and Len Barry)
5:00 Sammy Davis and the Wonderful World of Children (c/Sammy travels to a magical kids' world with Dino, Desi & Billy along for the ride)
6:00 Holiday Carnival (c)
6:25 Sports
6:30 News (local news films in color)
6:45 ABC News
7:00 Michigan Outdoors (c)
7:30 Shindig (from Waikiki Beach with guests Len Barry, Ian Whitcomb, Glen Campbell, Dodie Marshall, Bobby Sherman, and the Wellingtons)
8:00 Donna Reed
8:30 O.K. Crackerby! (c)
9:00 Bewitched
9:30 Peyton Place
10:00 First Lady's Tour (c/Lady Bird Johnson formed a committee in February '65 to eliminate ugliness in the cities and the countryside, using DC as a model- the special follows her touring across the city)
11:00 News (local news films in color)
11:25 Premiere Theater "All the Young Men"
1:15 After Hours
2:00 News
2:15 Passport to Profit

CKLW 9-CBC Windsor
8:55 Morgan's Merry-Go-Round
9:00 Romper Room (Miss Flora)
10:00 Canadian Schools "Edmonton: Gateway to the North" (which must have been really popular at CHCT in Calgary )
10:30 Friendly Giant
10:45 Chez Helene
11:00 Butternut Square
11:20 Across Canada
11:50 News
noon Razzle Dazzle
12:30 Take 30
1:00 Bill Kennedy Showtime "Dondi"
3:30 Swingin' Time
4:30 Fun House
6:00 Dennis the Menace
6:30 Marshal Dillon (Gunsmoke)
7:00 Twilight Zone (double bill)
8:00 Hollywood a Go Go (guests Group B, Dobie Gray, Mike Clifford, Sue Thompson, the Fugitives, and the We Five)
9:00 Windsor Raceway Horse Race
10:00 Windsor Wrestling (TV9 also showed wrestling Sat 11am, not sure which was a rerun)
11:00 CBC National News
11:15 News
11:25 Weather
11:30 Gideon's Way
12:45 Film Feature

WTOL 11-CBS/NBC Toledo
7:30 Comedy Carnival
8:00 Captain Kangaroo
8:30 Holiday Theater "Have Rocket, Will Travel" (11 usually carried the full hour of the Captain)
10:00 Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade (c)
noon Holiday Theater "Broken Lance" (c)
1:30 College Football: Oklahoma-Nebraska (c)
4:30 Big Show "Right Cross"
6:15 Wally Gator
6:30 Woody Woodpecker (c)
7:00 News
7:30 Munsters
8:00 Gilligan's Island (c)
8:30 My Three Sons (c)
9:00 Thursday Night Movie "Mysterious Island" (c)
11:00 News
11:20 Sports
11:25 Weather
11:30 Night Owl Theater "Holiday Inn"

WSPD 13-ABC/NBC Toledo
7:20 Prayer for Today
7:25 Farm Report
7:30 Today (c/JIP)
9:00 Movie "Barbary Coast Gent"
10:30 Donna Reed
11:00 Young Set
noon Ben Casey
1:00 Mike Douglas (no info listed)
2:30 A Time for Us
2:55 ABC News
3:00 General Hospital
3:30 Nurses
4:00 Where the Action Is (guests Little Anthony & the Imperials, and Jo Anne Campbell)
4:30 Movie "At Gunpoint"
6:00 Deadline
6:45 ABC News
7:00 Rifleman
7:30 Shindig
8:00 Donna Reed
8:30 O.K. Crackerby! (c)
9:00 Bewitched
9:30 Peyton Place
10:00 First Lady's Tour (c)
11:00 News
11:15 Sports
11:20 Weather
11:25 TV Editorial
11:30 Tonight Show (c)
1:00 Prayer for Today

WKBD 50-Ind Detroit
noon Dickory Doc
1:00 Double Feature Movies "The Hoodlum"/"Dark Waters"
4:00 Topper
4:30 Love That Bob!
5:00 Lloyd Thaxton (guests the Dovells)
6:00 Soupy Sales
6:30 Superman
7:00 Little Rascals
7:20 Sports Desk
7:30 Holiday
8:00 Gridiron Preview
8:15 Hockey Preview
8:25 NHL: Detroit-Chicago
10:45 Action Scoreboard
11:00 Merv Griffin (guests David Burns, Tiger Haynes, Dick Davy, and Steve Perry)
12:30 Tales of Wells Fargo

WTVS 56-Edu Detroit
5pm Introduction to Art
5:30 What's News
6:00 Americans at Work
6:15 Industry on Parade
6:30 French Chef
7:00 Dateline: UN
7:30 Driver Education
8:00 American Memoir
8:30 Regional Report "School Intergration"
9:00 UN Day Concert (Leonard Bernstein conducts the NY Philharmonic in the 16th annual concert)

 

[Mike Stroud]

Thanksgiving 1965, from TV Guide-Detroit edition

WWJ 4-NBC Detroit
1:00 Beat the Champ

WKBD 50-Ind Detroit
noon Dickory Doc
1:00 Double Feature Movies "The Hoodlum"/"Dark Waters"
4:00 Topper
4:30 Love That Bob!
5:00 Lloyd Thaxton (guests the Dovells)
6:00 Soupy Sales
6:30 Superman
7:00 Little Rascals
7:20 Sports Desk
7:30 Holiday
8:00 Gridiron Preview
8:15 Hockey Preview
8:25 NHL: Detroit-Chicago
10:45 Action Scoreboard
11:00 Merv Griffin (guests David Burns, Tiger Haynes, Dick Davy, and Steve Perry)
12:30 Tales of Wells Fargo

Some thoughts about Motown ...

WWJ, 1 a.m.: This was, of course, the station's in-studio bowling game show. I believe it usually ran at 7 p.m., between Huntley-Brinkley and prime time. Bowling continued to be popular on northern U.S. local stations well into the late 1970s. But it seems that the "yuppie" era of the 1980s pretty much finished off tenpins on TV, except for ABC Saturday afternoon coverage, until ESPN helped it blossom again by the 1990s. Not having seen these shows, I wonder whether or not there was a jackpot awarded to the highest scorer of the day and a subsequent tournament of the week on Friday, or whether the winner of a frame got a small cash award, or what. Do any of you up in the Midwest and the Northeast remember much about these local competitions?

WKBD: An indie UHF in an otherwise all-VHF market (save public outlet WTVS) surely had some rough going in its first year, but this one, unlike some others, did have some ambition, carrying a Red Wings hockey game. It may well have caught on quicker in its market than was the case with indies elsewhere (e.g., Cleveland, Baltimore, etc.)

 

[Ultimajock]

Thanksgiving 1965, from TV Guide-Detroit edition

CKLW 9-CBC Windsor
8:00 Hollywood a Go Go (guests Group B, Dobie Gray, Mike Clifford, Sue Thompson, the Fugitives, and the We Five)

10:00 Windsor Wrestling (TV9 also showed wrestling Sat 11am, not sure which was a rerun)

...Hollywood a Go Go was Sam Riddle's KHJ-TV/9 Los Angeles rock 'n roll music show Ninth Street West repackaged for syndication; KHJ-TV and CKLW-TV were both owned by RKO General at the time. And as for Windsor Wrestling, would that have been Ed "The Sheik" Farhat's Detroit/Toronto NWA franchise promotion, or perhaps a Canadian-based independent outfit?...

 

[wbhist]

Hollywood a Go Go was Sam Riddle's KHJ-TV/9 Los Angeles rock 'n roll music show Ninth Street West repackaged for syndication; KHJ-TV and CKLW-TV were both owned by RKO General at the time.

However, not all RKO General stations aired Hollywood a Go Go. Case in point: New York City, where WOR-TV/9 passed on it . . . and the show ended up airing instead on WPIX/11. WOR-TV, however, had their own rock 'n' roll music show, Let's Go Go.

 

[mbayus]

I use to watch Beat the Champ all the time. It aired on weekends in the 1:00 am slot. It was a contest betwene a pro and an amateur. If the amateur won he got a trophy that said "I Beat the Champ " and if the amateur lost, he got one that said "I tried to Beat the Champ". How about that.

 

[Toledo Eleven]

Beat the Champ ad from 1969 here http://vintagetoledotv.squarespace.com/print-ads/wwj-wdiv-tv-4-print-ads/2313069

 

[Joseph_Gallant]

In Boston, "Hollywood A Go-Go" aired on Group W/Westinghouse's WBZ-4 on Saturday afternoons from 5 to 6 P.M. during 1965, beginning on May 22nd of that year.

 

[FredLeonard]

The posted schedule says WJBK-TV2 ran CBS News at 7:05am. Channel 2 did not run the Morning News or any CBS morning show the entire time it was a CBS affiliate. Besides at this point in time the CBS Morning News (with Mike Wallace) aired from 10:00-10:30 am (channel two did not carry that either, nor did they carry Calendar with Harry Reasoner, the program it replaced). And CBS never started their news at :05 past the hour.

 

[bpatrick]

Have to correct you (or, more accurately, let Wesley Hyatt correct you):
The "CBS Morning News" was on from 7:05-7:30 AM from August 16, 1965-
March 28, 1969; it expanded to an hour (7-8 AM) on March 31, 1969. Mike
Wallace was still anchoring when the broadcast moved from 10 AM to the
earlier time; Joseph Benti replaced him in 1966 and was still anchoring when
the expansion came.

I know of some areas where the 25-minute newscast aired from 7:30-7:55
or 7:35-8; maybe you lived in one of those.

The Storer-owned CBS affiliates seemed to have a lot of problems with the
idea of clearing network programs before noon in those days; look at some
of my Atlanta (WAGA) postings from the '60s or some of Tim Lones' Cleveland
(WJW) listings.

On a different subject, didn't Channel 4 carry "Bowling For Dollars" in the '70s?

 

[FredLeonard]

Have to correct you (or, more accurately, let Wesley Hyatt correct you):
The "CBS Morning News" was on from 7:05-7:30 AM from August 16, 1965-
March 28, 1969; it expanded to an hour (7-8 AM) on March 31, 1969. Mike
Wallace was still anchoring when the broadcast moved from 10 AM to the
earlier time; Joseph Benti replaced him in 1966 and was still anchoring when
the expansion came.

I know of some areas where the 25-minute newscast aired from 7:30-7:55
or 7:35-8; maybe you lived in one of those.

The Storer-owned CBS affiliates seemed to have a lot of problems with the
idea of clearing network programs before noon in those days; look at some
of my Atlanta (WAGA) postings from the '60s or some of Tim Lones' Cleveland
(WJW) listings.

On a different subject, didn't Channel 4 carry "Bowling For Dollars" in the '70s?

Thanks, bpatrick. Basic point: WJBK-TV (and apparently other Storer stations, too) did not take the CBS News broadcasts running as lead-ins to Captain. Nor the 10am broadcasts. As I recall, channel six did take the early news - at least at some point - but never the 10am shows because of their local "Happy Homemaker" (actually Copper Kettle) show hosted by the station owner's mistress. Any resemble to any character played later by Betty White are purely coincidental.

 

[Corky Marlowe]

Interesting to not see the Turkey Day Lions game listed anywhere. I didn't realize the home blackouts even extended to a holiday tradition like that.

 

[azumanga]

At the time, all home games were blacked out, whether or not they've been sold out at any time. Since 1973, however, home games could be seen if they were sold out within 72 hours.

 

[cwf1701]

(WJW) listings.

On a different subject, didn't Channel 4 carry "Bowling For Dollars" in the '70s?

yes, WDIV was one of the stations that had a local "Bowling For Dollars" show.

 

[Joseph_Gallant]

In Boston, where candlepin bowling (small balls and skinny pins) is quite common, the local "Bowling For Dollars" franchise was called "Candlepins For Cash", and had a long run on the old WNAC-7, for most of that time weekdays at 5:30 P.M., leading into the station's local 6 P.M. newscasts.

"Candlepins For Cash", however, was last seen in Boston on the old WXNE-25.

Sadly, the host of the show during it's WNAC days, Bob Gamere, is at this writing in jail, having been convicted of child porn charges.

 

[pqgeorge]

Unlike the Detroit (proper) stations at the time, CKLW-TV (Channel 9/Windsor, ON) was licensed by the CRTC (the Canadian equivalent of the US FCC). But CKLW-TV was still considered part of the Detroit Metro and was programmed as such. Was CKLW-TV able to broadcast in color to the Detroit market, even though color TV was not officially sanctioned in Canada until 1967? I know that many of the programs on CKLW-TV came from the states (and were specifically programmed for the Detroit audience). Even though color TV was already growing in the USA, was Channel 9 able to broadcast in color to the Detroit audience, or did they have to wait for CRTC approval in '67? Just curious!

 

[FredLeonard]

CKLW-TV functioned as an indie station much of the time. It did carry some US syndicated programming (as did other Canadian stations) and old movies - generally still offered in B&W at the time.. But much of their schedule was local shows and those were produced at the station's studios in Windsor. At this time, the station did maintain a sales office in Detroit. Many station employees, including air talent, commuted from Michigan.

See the CKLW schedule posted for Monday, 04/08/1968.