Retro: Kansas, Friday, Oct. 16, 1959

[DM601]

(Source: Great Bend Daily Tribune)

KCKT 2 Great Bend (NBC)
(part of the Kansas State Network from KARD-3, Wichita)
AM
6:30 Continental Classroom
7 Today (inc. weather 7:25, news 8:25)
9 Dough Re Mi
9:30 Treasure Hunt
10 Price is Right
10:30 Concentration
11 Tic Tac Dough
11:30 It Could Be You
PM
12 Cartoon Time
12:15 News, Weather, Markets
12:30 Markets
12:40 Better Home Living
12:55 Civic Calendar
1 Queen For A Day
1:30 Thin Man
2 Young Dr. Malone
2:30 From These Roots
3 House On High Street
3:30 Split Personality
4 Christian Science
4:15 Film Varieties
4:30 Cartoon Time
5 Magic Top Time
5:15 Film Varieties
5:30 Hopalong Cassidy
6 News
6:15 NBC News
6:30 People Are Funny
7 Trouble Shooters
7:30 M Squad
8 Cavalcade of Sports
8:45 Bowling
9 Friday Night Special -- Pontiac Star Parade: Victor Borge’s Copenhagen
10 News
10:30 Showcase
11 High School Scoreboard
11:15 Showcase

KAKE-TV 10 Wichita (ABC)
AM
7:50 Cartoons
9 Romper Room
10 Open House
10:30 Gardenwise
11 Movie Date
PM
12 News and Weather
12:10 Midday Weather
12:15 Little Rascals
12:45 Party Line
1:30 Love That Bob
2 Day In Court
2:30 Gale Storm
3 Beat The Clock
3:30 Deputy Dusty
5 Three Stooges
6 Sheena
6:30 Tomorrow The Moon
7:30 Man From Blackhawk
8 77 Sunset Strip
9 The Detectives
9:30 Black Saddle
(No listings after 9:30)

KAYS-TV 7 Hays (ABC)
The only listings for Ch. 7 are:
PM
4:30 American Bandstand
5:30 Mickey Mouse Club
10 News
10:30 Nightwatch

KWCH 12 Hutchinson-Wichita (CBS)
AM
7 Top O’ The Mornin’
7:25 Community Window
7:40 Channel 12 Morning News
7:45 Ding Dong School
7:55 News
8 Captain Kangaroo
9 Jack Linkletter
10 I Love Lucy
10:30 Top Dollar
11 Love of Life
11:30 Search for Tomorrow
11:45 Guiding Light
PM
12 Ollie’s Alley
12:30 As The World Turns
1 For Better Or For Worse
1:30 House Party
2 Big Payoff
2:30 Verdict is Yours
3 Brighter Day
3:15 Secret Storm
3:30 Edge of Night
4 (No listing)
4:30 Crusader Rabbit
4:45 HiFi Hop
5:45 CBS News
6 Evening Edition (news)
6:30 Rawhide
7:30 Hotel De Paree
8 Desilu Playhouse
9 The Lineup
9:30 Person to Person
10 News
10:30 Markham (from 9:30 p.m. Saturday, when Ch. 12 broadcast the syndicated MacKenzie’s Raiders)
11 Late Date (apparently a movie, based on another Ch. 12 schedule I’ve seen from 1959)

 

[bpatrick]

> >>
>
> KAKE-TV 10 Wichita (ABC)
>
> PM
> > 3:30 Deputy Dusty

I'm amazed that KAKE didn't carry Who
Do You Trust? or American Bandstand.
>
> 6:30 Tomorrow The Moon

Disney's show aired at this time. Was
this an episode?
>
>
>> KWCH 12 Hutchinson-Wichita (CBS)
> AM
> > 9 Jack Linkletter

On The Go, taped mostly in California
and Nevada.
> >>> >

 

[Joseph_Gallant]

DM601 takes us back to Kansas on October 16th, 1959, thanks to listings from the Great Bend Daily Tribune:

> KCKT 2 Great Bend (NBC)
> (part of the Kansas State Network from KARD-3, Wichita)

The flagship is now known as KSNW-TV (Kansas State Network/Wichita)

> 8 Cavalcade of Sports

I thought that the "Gillette Cavalcade Of Sports" (almost always a Boxing match) aired live at 10 P.M. ET, which would be 9 in the Central time zone.

The only possibilities for it being broadcast that week at 8 P.M. would be: (1) Kansas was on standard time, or (2) that night's bout was broadcast live from the Canadian Maritimes (maybe Halifax, Nova Scotia??), which is an hour ahead of the East Coast, resulting in the bout starting at 10 P.M. local, 9 in the East, and 8 in the Central time zone.

> KAYS-TV 7 Hays (ABC)
> The only listings for Ch. 7 are:
> PM
> 4:30 American Bandstand
> 5:30 Mickey Mouse Club
> 10 News
> 10:30 Nightwatch

Maybe KAYS rebroadcast KAKE at all other hours, and these were the only programs KAYS broadcast that KAKE didn't.

Today, KAYS is a CBS affiliate.

One other interesting tidbit is that Jack Paar's "Tonight Show" did not air anywhere in the region served by these listings. Considering how successful it had become by the Fall of 1959, this is puzzling. (My guess is that the NBC-affiliated Kansas State Network stations probably began running Paar not too long after the date of these listings)

 

[leach]

Dick Clark & KAKE

> > >>
> >
> > KAKE-TV 10 Wichita (ABC)
> >
> > PM
> > > 3:30 Deputy Dusty
>
> I'm amazed that KAKE didn't carry Who
> Do You Trust? or American Bandstand.
> >
> > 6:30 Tomorrow The Moon
>

The interesting thing about this is that in Dick Clark's bio that came out
in the 1970's "Rock, Roll,and Remember", there is actually a pic of Clark
with his secretary. In the pic you can see a letter on Dick's desk that came
from KAKE-TV 10. Of course one can't actually read the letter from looking at the pic but it is quite easy to see the KAKE letterhead. It's a shame though as it looks like that pic was made around the same time as these listings and chances are it could very well give us a clue as to why KAKE didn't carry Bandstand or maybe KAKE may be picking up the show later on and wanted to tell Dick Clark about it.

We will never know.

 

[oldiesfan]

> I thought that the "Gillette Cavalcade Of Sports"
> (almost always a Boxing match) aired live at 10 P.M.
> ET, which would be 9 in the Central time zone.
>
> The only possibilities for it being broadcast that week
> at 8 P.M. would be: (1) Kansas was on standard time...

>> 6:30 People Are Funny
>> 7 Trouble Shooters
>> 7:30 M Squad
>> 8 Cavalcade of Sports
>> 8:45 Bowling
>> 9 Friday Night Special--Pontiac Star Parade:
Victor Borge’s Copenhagen

Kansas was on standard time in 1959. I'm not sure where
the CT/MT dividing line was but Great Bend was likely in
the Central zone then as now.

This was probably the alternate (delayed by one hour)
network feed (during DST) for EST and CST areas where
normally everything aired in pattern. I recall discussion
some months back about similar occurrences elsewhere when
a live sports show was thrown into the mix.

Here, the alternate feed had the first two shows in pattern,
then the normal sequence was interrupted by "M Squad" from
its 9:30pm EDT feed and the sports/bowling hour (live show
10-11pm EDT). The final hour here--9-10pm CST--was likely
the 8:30-9:30pm EDT slot normally occupied by the "Bell
Telephone Hour."

 

[DM601]

Re: Dick Clark & KAKE

> > > >>
> > >
> > > KAKE-TV 10 Wichita (ABC)
> > >
> > > PM
> > > > 3:30 Deputy Dusty
> >
> > I'm amazed that KAKE didn't carry Who
> > Do You Trust? or American Bandstand.
> > >
> The interesting thing about this is that in Dick Clark's bio
> that came out
> in the 1970's "Rock, Roll,and Remember", there is actually a
> pic of Clark
> with his secretary. In the pic you can see a letter on
> Dick's desk that came
> from KAKE-TV 10...It's a shame though as it looks like
> that pic was made around the same time as these listings and
> chances are it could very well give us a clue as to why KAKE
> didn't carry Bandstand or maybe KAKE may be picking up the
> show later on and wanted to tell Dick Clark about it.
>
> We will never know.
>
I posted a Wichita schedule from a Saturday in April 1963 a while back; at that time Deputy Dusty was still on weekdays but they had an hour of Bandstand around mid-morning on Saturdays, apparently taping one of the weekday shows.

 

[bpatrick]

> DM601 takes us back to Kansas on October 16th, 1959, thanks
> to listings from the Great Bend Daily Tribune:
>
> > KCKT 2 Great Bend (NBC)
> > (part of the Kansas State Network from KARD-3, Wichita)
>
> The flagship is now known as KSNW-TV (Kansas State
> Network/Wichita)
>
> > 8 Cavalcade of Sports
>
> I thought that the "Gillette Cavalcade Of Sports" (almost
> always a Boxing match) aired live at 10 P.M. ET, which would
> be 9 in the Central time zone.
>
> The only possibilities for it being broadcast that week at 8
> P.M. would be: (1) Kansas was on standard time, or (2) that
> night's bout was broadcast live from the Canadian Maritimes
> (maybe Halifax, Nova Scotia??), which is an hour ahead of
> the East Coast, resulting in the bout starting at 10 P.M.
> local, 9 in the East, and 8 in the Central time zone.

I tend to believe that Kansas was on Central Standard Time,
two hours behind New York. NBC's schedule (Eastern Daylight
Time) on Friday nights in the fall of '59 was:

7:30 People Are Funny
8 PM Troubleshooters
8:30 Bell Telephone Hour
9:30 M Squad
10 PM Gillette Cavalcade Of Sports
10:45 Jackpot Bowling

Kansas obviously stuck to the Central Time version
of primetime (6:30-10), as seen by People Are Funny
at 6:30 and Troubleshooters at 7. But the Pontiac
special must have aired 8:30-9:30 (EDT). To run
that program 7:30-8:30 (CST) would have meant the
fight would not have been live, and obviously KSN
was going to carry it live at 10 (EDT)/8 (CST).
So KSN went along with the Eastern feed of M Squad
(9:30/7:30), boxing (10/8), and bowling (10:45/8:45),
delaying the Pontiac show to 9 PM, when NBC would
have been in affiliate time in the East.

Complicated, I know, but I also know that the following
summer NBC was running Masquerade Party at 9:30 (EDT)
on Friday nights, followed by boxing at 10. Since North
Carolina stayed on EST in those days, we got Masquerade
Party at 8:30, followed by the boxing/bowling combo
from 9 to 10, and the Bell Telephone Hour at 10 instead
of 8:30.

Likewise, ABC stations in the South flipflopped Hawaiian
Eye and the Wednesday night fights in the 1959-60 season;
on EDT, Hawaiian Eye was on at 9 and the fights at 10, while
on EST, it was the other way around.

Also recall that there was a period in late September/
early October when California was on Pacific Standard
Time, four hours behind New York, and that ABC's Saturday-
night Fight Of The Week/Make That Spare combo ran 6-7 (PST)
(10-11 EDT) in Los Angeles and other California markets
(that was in the early '60s).

I find it highly unlikely that the Gillette fight of
October 16, 1959, originated in the Maritimes; I'd
put my money on it being broadcast from Madison Square
Garden.
>
> > KAYS-TV 7 Hays (ABC)
> > The only listings for Ch. 7 are:
> > PM
> > 4:30 American Bandstand
> > 5:30 Mickey Mouse Club
> > 10 News
> > 10:30 Nightwatch
>
> Maybe KAYS rebroadcast KAKE at all other hours, and these
> were the only programs KAYS broadcast that KAKE didn't.
>
> Today, KAYS is a CBS affiliate.
>
> One other interesting tidbit is that Jack Paar's "Tonight
> Show" did not air anywhere in the region served by these
> listings. Considering how successful it had become by the
> Fall of 1959, this is puzzling. (My guess is that the
> NBC-affiliated Kansas State Network stations probably began
> running Paar not too long after the date of these listings)
>
It's amazing how many NBC affiliates didn't carry Paar at
the time. Joseph, you've mentioned that WBZ/4 didn't run
him in Boston; I've mentioned that WSB/2 didn't run him in
Atlanta (nor, as I recall, did sister station WSOC/9 Charlotte).
In Atlanta, WLWA (now WXIA)/11, then the ABC affiliate, carried
Paar; ironically, that's the NBC affiliate now, and it does
carry Leno. In Charlotte, Paar was blacked out until about
1960, when I think WSOC began picking him up in progress
at 11:30.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by bpatrick on 12/21/05 05:31 PM.</FONT></P>

 

[Joseph_Gallant]

Re: Dick Clark & KAKE

Maybe someone can go back and check Wichita TV listings from the period to determine whether Dick Clark's "Beechnut Show" (broadcast on Saturday nights at 8 ET) was on KAKE-10, even if "American Bandstand" wasn't. That may explain the letter from KAKE.

One other question that maybe someone can answer: Wasn't KAKE the first ABC affiliate in a market with primary affiliates of all three (at the time) networks to become number-one in prime-time network programming??

 

[bpatrick]

Re: Dick Clark & KAKE

> Maybe someone can go back and check Wichita TV listings from
> the period to determine whether Dick Clark's "Beechnut Show"
> (broadcast on Saturday nights at 8 ET) was on KAKE-10, even
> if "American Bandstand" wasn't. That may explain the letter
> from KAKE.
>
> One other question that maybe someone can answer: Wasn't
> KAKE the first ABC affiliate in a market with primary
> affiliates of all three (at the time) networks to become
> number-one in prime-time network programming??
>
It was, and IIRC, Lawrence Welk came to the station for
a big party celebrating the accomplishment.

 

[DM601]

KAKE did broadcast Dick Clark

> Maybe someone can go back and check Wichita TV listings from
> the period to determine whether Dick Clark's "Beechnut Show"
> (broadcast on Saturday nights at 8 ET) was on KAKE-10, even
> if "American Bandstand" wasn't. That may explain the letter
> from KAKE.
>
KAKE-10 was carrying Dick Clark's Beechnut Show in the fall of '59. Here's the Kansas schedule for Saturday, Oct. 17, 1959 from the Great Bend Tribune (and I don't have a Sunday schedule).

KCKT 2 Great Bend (NBC)
(part of the Kansas State Network from KARD-3 Wichita)
AM
9 Howdy Doody
9:30 Ruff and Reddy
10 Fury
10:30 Circus Boy
11 True Story
11:30 TBA
PM
12:15 College Football: Notre Dame vs. Michigan State
3 Industry on Parade
3:30 Dangerous Assignment
4 Ray Milland
4:30 Saturday Date
5:30 Cartoon Time
6 Steve Donovan
6:30 Bonanza
7:30 The Man And The Challenge
8 The Deputy
8:30 Five Fingers
9:30 It Could Be You
10 News
10:30 Face of Crime
10:45 Showcase

KAKE-TV 10 Wichita (ABC)
AM
8:30 Big Picture
9 Six Gun Theater
10 Uncle Al
10:30 Popeye and His Pals
PM
12 Rascals Rollcall
1 Daywatch
2:30 Dance Party
3:30 Mr. D.A.
4 Roller Derby
4:30 Mr. D.A. (again)
5 All Star Golf
5:30 African Patrol
6 Dusty’s Jamboree
6:30 Dick Clark
7 John Gunther’s High Road
7:30 Leave It To Beaver
8 Lawrence Welk
9 Jubilee U.S.A.
9:30 Mickey Spillane
10 News
10:30 Best of Hollywood
11 Long Range Weather

KAYS-TV 7 Hays (ABC)
As before, these are the only listings for KAYS:
AM
1 Daywatch (with KAKE)
1:25 News
1:30 Film TBA
6 Dusty’s Jamboree (with KAKE)
* No listing for Dick Clark at 6:30
7 Jubilee U.S.A.(two hours earlier than KAKE)
8 Lawrence Welk (with KAKE)
9 No listing
9:30 O Henry Playhouse
10 News
10:15 Weatherdial
10:20 Man About Sports

KWCH 12 Hutchinson-Wichita (CBS)
AM
8:30 Captain Kangaroo
9:30 Mighty Mouse
10 Heckle & Jeckel
10:30 Uncle Willibee’s Secret Place
11 Flash Gordon
11:30 Sunday School
11:45 New Day In Dentistry
PM
12 Noon Special
12:15 Catholic News
12:30 Uncle Willibee (again)
1 Early Show (not listed)
3 Thoroughbred Racing
4 Film
4:30 Roy Rogers
5 Jeff’s Collie
5:30 The Whistler
6 Special Edition
6:15 Sports Scoreboard
6:30 Perry Mason
7:30 Wanted-Dead or Alive
8 Phil Silvers
9 Gunsmoke
9:30 MacKenzie’s Raiders
10 News
10:20 Jack Munley Show
10:30 Late Date
12M News Roundup