Retro: L.A., Thursday, September 14, 1978 (Daytime)

[mstgator]

From TV Guide: Los Angeles Metropolitan edition

2 KNXT (CBS) Los Angeles // 3 KEYT (ABC) Santa Barbara // 4 KNBC (NBC) Los Angeles
5 KTLA (Ind.) Los Angeles // 7 KABC (ABC) Los Angeles // 9 KHJ (Ind.) Los Angeles
11 KTTV (Ind.) Los Angeles // 12 KCOY (CBS) Santa Maria // 13 KCOP (Ind.) Los Angeles
18 KSCI (Ind.) San Bernardino // 22 KWHY (Ind.) Los Angeles // 24 KVCR (PBS) San Bernardino
28 KCET (PBS) Los Angeles // 30 KHOF (Ind.) Glendale // 34 KMEX (Ind.) Los Angeles
36 KMIR (NBC) Palm Springs // 40 KTBN (Ind.) Los Angeles // 42 KPLM (ABC) Palm Springs
50 KOCE (PBS) Huntington Beach // 52 KBSC (Ind.) Los Angeles // 58 KLCS (PBS) Los Angeles

For programs on (8) Santa Barbara, see (3); for (62) Riverside, see (24); for (82) Palm Springs, see (42)

In addition to the listings herein, Chs. 28, 50 and 58 schedule instructional classroom programs throughout the broadcast day.

MORNING

5:25
2 Summer Semester

5:30
40 Praise

5:55
2 Art (Instruction)
4 Knowledge

6:00
3 PTL Club
5 News
7 Home Gardener
9 Frankly Female
11 University Of The Air
30 Domata
40 Destined For Maturity

6:15
13 My Turn

6:25
2 Last Of The Wild
4 Not For Women Only

6:30
5 Carrascolendas
7 Daybreak L.A.
9 Meet The Mayors
11 New Zoo Revue
13 Popeye
28 ABC News
30 Gospel Time
40 Captain Andy

6:55
2-4 News

7:00
2-12 CBS News (Stahl/Threlkeld)
3-7-42 Good Morning America (David Hartman)
4-36 Today (Tom Brokaw)
5 700 Club
9 The Froozles
11 Bugs Bunny, Porky Pig
13 Bugs Bunny
22 Stock Market Opening
28 Yoga For Health
30 Festival Of Faith
40 Joy In The Morning

7:15
22 Market Update

7:30
9 Body Buddies
11 Tom And Jerry
22 Market Coverage
28 Mister Rogers

7:45
22 New York Stock Exchange

8:00
2-12 Captain Kangaroo
9 PTL Club
13 Woody Woodpecker
22 Estate Planning
28 ZOOM
40 Behind The Scenes

8:15
22 Market Update
40 The Word

8:20
40 Day By Day

8:25
40 Joy To The World

8:30
5 Gallery
11 Flintstones
13 Popeye
22 Commodity Line
28 Villa Alegre
40 Praise The Lord!

8:45
22 Market Update

9:00
2-12 All In The Family
3 PTL Club continues
4-36 Card Sharks
5 Phil Donahue
7 A.M. Los Angeles
11 I Love Lucy
13 Superman
22 Market Coverage
28 Sesame Street
30 Lifestyles
42 Living Easy with Dr. Joyce Brothers
58 Villa Alegre

9:15
22 Market Update

9:30
2-12 Price Is Right
4-36 Hollywood Squares
11 Family Affair
13 Romper Room
22 Market Coverage
42 Not For Women Only
58 Studio See

9:45
22 New York Stock Exchange

10:00
3-7-42 Happy Days
4-36 High Rollers
5 Big Valley
9 Mid Morning L.A.
11 My Three Sons
13 Guest Spot
22 Market Update
28 Bill Moyers' Journal: International Report

10:15
22 Market Coverage

10:30
2-12 Love Of Life
3-7-42 $20,000 Pyramid
4-36 Wheel Of Fortune
11 That Girl
13 Nanny And The Professor
22 Market Update
40 High Adventure
58 What's Cooking

10:50
22 Now Hear This

10:55
2-12 CBS News (Edwards)

11:00
2-12 Young And The Restless
3-7-42 Family Feud
4-36 America Alive! (Linkletter)
5 Bonanza
11 Cross-Wits
13 Gomer Pyle, USMC
28 Electric Company
30 Family Focus
40 Let Go - Let God

11:15
22 Market Coverage

11:30
2-12 Search For Tomorrow
3-7-42 Ryan's Hope
11 News
13 Gomer Pyle, USMC
22 Market Update
28 Dick Cavett
34 Villa Alegre
40 Abundant Living

11:50
22 News

AFTERNOON

12:00
2 Steve Edwards
3-7-42 All My Children
4-36 For Richer, For Poorer
5 Twilight Zone
9 Movie ("The Battle Of The Sexes" 1959)
11 Movie ("Lust For Gold" 1949)
12 News
13 Room 222
22 Concepts In Commodities
28 Michael Jackson
30 Ken Connolly
34 Mundo Latino
40 Behind The Scenes
58 Music

12:15
22 Market Coverage
40 The Word

12:20
40 Day By Day

12:25
40 Joy To The World

12:30
2-12 As The World Turns
4-36 Days Of Our Lives
5 Love, American Style
13 Get Smart
22 Market Update
28 Yoga For Health
40 Praise

12:45
22 Commodity Report

1:00
3-7-42 One Life To Live
5 Love, American Style
13 Get Smart
22 Market Closing Activities
28 Over Easy (Hugh Downs)
40 Teach Us To Pray

1:15
22 Dow 30

1:30
2-12 Guiding Light
4-36 Doctors
5 Love, American Style
9 News
13 Gomer Pyle, USMC
22 Charting The Market
28 Star Of India - Iron Lady Of The Seas
34 El Show de Cepillin
40 Destined For Maturity

1:50
11 Ben Hunter

2:00
3-7-42 General Hospital
4-36 Another World
5 Movie ("Go West, Young Man" 1936)
9 Green Acres
11 Let's Rap
13 News
18 Soulbeat
30 Domata
34 Marcha Nupcial
40 Inside Israel
50 Movie ("Antonia: A Portrait of the Woman" 1974)

2:30
2-12 M*A*S*H
9 Concentration
11 Bullwinkle
13 Terrytoons
28 Artists
30 Harvest Temple
34 Rina
40 Praise The Lord!

2:40
52 Meditations

2:45
52 News

3:00
2 Mike Douglas (co-host Kate Jackson; guests Roger Miller, Bernadette Peters, Jeff Altman)
3-7-42 Edge Of Night
4 Medical Center
9 Maverick
11 Fred Flintstone & Friends
12 Match Game
13 Heckle And Jeckle
18 Pelicula
24 ZOOM
28 Direction '78: Morality Of Television
30 Bible Study
34 Carolina
36 Mike Douglas (co-host John Colenback; guests Billie Jean King, Lonnie Shorr, and A Taste Of Honey)
50 Pro Soccer
52 Take 30
58 Parent Effectiveness

3:30
3 Brady Bunch
5 Dinah! (guests: cast of "Battlestar Galactica")
7 Movie ("Light in the Piazza" 1962)
11 Groovie Goolies And Friends
12 Phil Donahue
13 Kartoon Karnival
24 Villa Alegre
42 Get Smart
52 Abbott And Costello

4:00
2 Match Game
3 My Three Sons
4 Mary Tyler Moore
9 Avengers
11 Bugs Bunny, Porky Pig
24 Electric Company
28 Villa Alegre
34 Torneo de Estrellas
42 Burke's Law
50 Mister Rogers
52 McHale's Navy

4:30
2-30 News
3 Merv Griffin (guests: Nick Nolte, Barbara Carrera, Skip Stephenson, Ken Marshall)
4 Bob Newhart
11 Tom And Jerry
12 Andy Griffith
13 Krofft Superstars
18 Pelicula
24 Studio See
28 Mister Rogers
34 Acompaname
36 Dinah! (guests: Suzanne Pleshette, Lee Grant, Trish Van Devere, Marilyn McCoo, Ann Turkel)
40 Tree House Club
50 Villa Alegre
52 Mighty Hercules

4:45
30 Listen

5:00
2-4-7 News
5 Star Trek
9 Ironside
11 New Mickey Mouse Club
12 Rookies
13 Wait Till Your Father Gets Home
22 Journey To Adventure
24 Mister Rogers
28 Sesame Street
30 Davey And Goliath
40 Behind The Scenes
42 Merv Griffin
50 Hodgepodge Lodge
52 Dr. Who
58 Vegetable Soup

5:15
40 The Word

5:20
40 Day By Day

5:25
40 Joy To The World

5:30
5 Baseball (California Angels at Texas Rangers)
11 Family Affair
13 Adam-12
22 Financial News
24 Over Easy (Hugh Downs)
30 Dan Griffin
34 Noticiero
40 Destined For Maturity
50 Bix Beiderbecke Memorial Jazz Festival 1977
58 Villa Alegre

 

[ViewStu]

> 10:55
> 2-12 CBS News (Edwards)
>
>
When did CBS drop this 5-minute daytime 'news brief'? Did it air live in all time zones? I know that Douglas Edwards died in 1988, and that he was still on the air every day as late as 1987, but I'm not sure if it was in a 5-minute format,or a 60-second 'news brief'. Did this newscast die when he did?

 

[bhayes1016]

> 3:00
> 2 Mike Douglas (co-host Kate Jackson; guests Roger Miller,
> Bernadette Peters, Jeff Altman)
> 36 Mike Douglas (co-host John Colenback; guests Billie Jean
> King, Lonnie Shorr, and A Taste Of Honey)

> 5 Dinah! (guests: cast of "Battlestar Galactica")
> 36 Dinah! (guests: Suzanne Pleshette, Lee Grant, Trish Van
> Devere, Marilyn McCoo, Ann Turkel)

It appears that smaller markets were "behind" large markets in regards to syndicated shows. How much of a "delay" was there?

 

[Tom_Desmond]

[re: syndicated talk shows]
> It appears that smaller markets were "behind" large markets
> in regards to syndicated shows. How much of a "delay" was
> there?

Remember that in 1978, syndicated shows weren't yet sent to stations by satellite, but rather through the U.S. mail. For these talk shows, that meant that multiple videotape copies had to be created and mailed from station to station. since the cost of producing a tape for each and every station would be cost prohibitive, the same tape would be used for several stations, and would be "bicycled" from station to station. I'd presume that the tapes went to the large market stations first...as for the delay, that would depend on the speed of the U.S. mail -- and on how far down the chain a particular station was for receiving the tape.

 

[oldiesfan]

> I'd presume that the tapes went to the
> large market stations first...as for the
> delay, that would depend on the speed of
> the U.S. mail -- and on how far down the
> chain a particular station was for receiving
> the tape.

Same thing for 16mm film prints of syndicated
shows--bicycle from one station to another, or
ship to a central "clearing house." Anyone
else remember Bonded TV Film Service?

 

[KMRichards]

> [re: syndicated talk shows]
> > It appears that smaller markets were "behind" large
> markets
> > in regards to syndicated shows. How much of a "delay" was
> > there?
>
> Remember that in 1978, syndicated shows weren't yet sent to
> stations by satellite, but rather through the U.S. mail.
> For these talk shows, that meant that multiple videotape
> copies had to be created and mailed from station to station.
> since the cost of producing a tape for each and every
> station would be cost prohibitive, the same tape would be
> used for several stations, and would be "bicycled" from
> station to station. I'd presume that the tapes went to the
> large market stations first...as for the delay, that would
> depend on the speed of the U.S. mail -- and on how far down
> the chain a particular station was for receiving the tape.

Having lived in the L.A. area my entire life, the Los Angeles Metropolitan edition of TV Guide was my "home" edition in 1978, when this issue came out. I recall that the Palm Springs stations were one week behind the Los Angeles stations on the syndicated talk shows, and Santa Barbara/Santa Maria were one week behind them, so I am guessing the same tapes bicycled from L.A. to Palm Springs, then to the S.B. market. There likely wasn't any inherent mail delay between those three markets (or they might have bicycled the tapes via Greyhound, which was not uncommon back then).<P ID="signature">______________


</P>

 

[bpatrick]

> > 10:55
> > 2-12 CBS News (Edwards)
> >
> >
> When did CBS drop this 5-minute daytime 'news brief'? Did it
> air live in all time zones? I know that Douglas Edwards died
> in 1988, and that he was still on the air every day as late
> as 1987, but I'm not sure if it was in a 5-minute format,or
> a 60-second 'news brief'. Did this newscast die when he
> did?
>

The five-minute newscasts ended in 1980; CBS was the last network
to shift to the one-minute format. If what I see on KCBS today
is any indication, the newscasts aired on tape in the earlier
time zones (I'm basing this on the one which follows "Guiding
Light" as it is the same in California as in North Carolina).

Douglas Edwards retired in 1988; he died in 1990. From 1980 to
his retirement he did the one-minute "newsbreak" right after "The Price Is
Right." That one no longer airs, but there is a newsbreak right
after "Guiding Light" on those stations that carry the soap in the
afternoon.

A point about bicycling, in reply to K.M. and a couple of others.
I remember that Dallas/Ft. Worth was one of the first ten markets
to see any given episode of "The Merv Griffin Show"; along with
New York, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Washington, and most all of
the top ten markets, KDFW/4 showed each Merv Griffin show a week
after it was taped. Atlanta (WSB, then WXIA) and Tampa (WTVT)
carried each episode two weeks after it was taped. And so on
down the line, to where markets in the 200+ range would be showing
a particular show as much as five months after it was taped. Merv
often complained that he couldn't talk about items in the news because
of this, since by the time a show aired in the smallest markets, a
story that was hot when the show was taped would have been forgotten.

Bicycling also caused problems on some of the syndicated game shows
in the '70s. Philadelphia was showing "To Tell The Truth" with Joe
Garagiola as host (1977) when New York was still showing episodes with
Garry Moore. I remember back in '72, Atlanta was getting "What's My
Line?" with Larry Blyden, while Birmingham was seeing the shows with
Wally Bruner. Reason: Channel 11 in Atlanta had carried syndicated
"Line" since its inception in '68; Birmingham's Channel 42 didn't start
airing it until the fall of '72 and started with one of the earlier
years. (Blyden replaced Bruner as host in the fall of '72.)

Only "Hee Haw" and Lawrence Welk were set up in such a way that
everybody saw the same show, the same week.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by bpatrick on 02/22/06 03:25 PM.</FONT></P>

 

[Davros2006]

Another question, this time pertaining to Tic Tac Dough and The Joker's Wild in the late '70s/early '80s: Did those two shows (and Bullseye as well) suffer the same bicycling problem even though those shows had returning champions and games that continued over into the next day?

 

[bpatrick]

> Another question, this time pertaining to Tic Tac Dough and
> The Joker's Wild in the late '70s/early '80s: Did those two
> shows (and Bullseye as well) suffer the same bicycling
> problem even though those shows had returning champions and
> games that continued over into the next day?
>
In the late '70s I got Joker's Wild and Tic Tac Dough on
both WXIA/11 Atlanta and WLOS/13 Greenville/Spartanburg/Asheville,
and they were different shows each day. 11 played both shows
from the beginning of their syndicated runs; 13 picked them up
later but in the order they were broadcast. Prior to 1980 the
two shows almost certainly were bicycled. Maybe someone else
can tell you about Bullseye.

 

[Davros2006]

I suppose in the near-pre-VCR era, if you missed a show, you could catch it at a later date, if you were lucky to get two stations and one of them was behind.