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Retro: Los Angeles, CA, Monday October 5, 1992 3 Independents

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Source: Palo Verde Valley Times from Google News Archive

KTLA 5:

6:00AM: 700 Club
7:00AM: The KTLA Morning News
9:00AM: The Joan Rivers Show
10:00AM: Bonanza
11:00AM: Little House on the Prairie
12:00PM: Highway to Heaven
1:00PM: CHIPs
2:00PM: Magnum, P.I.
3:00PM: In the Heat of the Night
4:00PM: Hunter
5:00PM: Saved by the Bell (Back to Back)
6:00PM: Full House
6:30PM: Charles in Charge
7:00PM: Murphy Brown
7:30PM: Cheers
8:00PM: Movie: The Last Dragon (1985)
10:00PM: News
11:00PM: Cheers
11:30PM: Designing Women
12:00AM: Taxi
12:30AM: The Honeymooners
1:00AM: News
2:00AM: Infomercials

KCAL 9:

6:00AM: Swan Crossings
6:30AM: Camp Candy
7:00AM: DuckTales
7:30AM: Inspector Gadget
8:00AM: KCAL Kids
9:00AM: Vicki!
10:00AM: The Best of Sally
11:00AM: Jerry Springer
12:00PM: News
1:00PM: Maury
2:00PM: Sally
3:00PM: The Disney Afternoon
5:00PM: The A-Team
6:00PM: The Golden Girls
6:30PM: News
7:00PM: Inside Edition
7:30PM: Love Connection
8:00PM: News (3 Hours)
11:00PM: The Whoopi Goldberg Show
11:30PM: Night Talk
12:30AM: B. Allen
1:00AM: Infomercials
1:30AM: Infatuation
2:00AM: Amore

KTTV Fox 11:

6:00AM: Popeye & Firends
7:00AM: The Flintstones
7:30AM: The Woody Woodpecker Show
8:00AM: Beetlejuice
8:30AM: Alvin & the Chipmunks
9:00AM: I Love Lucy
9:30AM: The Andy Griffith Show (Back to Back)
10:30AM: The Beverly Hillbillies
11:00AM: Perry Mason
12:00PM: Infomercials
2:00PM: Gilligan's Island
2:30PM: Popeye
3:00PM: Dennis the Menace Animated
3:30PM: Merrie Melodies
4:00PM: Tom & Jerry Kids
4:30PM: Tiny Toon Adventures
5:00PM: Batman: The Animated Series
5:30PM: I Love Lucy
6:00PM: Studs
6:30PM: The Wonder Years
7:00PM: Married... with Children
7:30PM: A Current Affair
8:00PM: Movie: Against All Odds (1984) (like the Phil Collins #1 Theme Song)
10:00PM: News
11:00PM: Cops
11:30PM: M*A*S*H
12:00AM: Perry Mason
1:00AM: Sign-Off
 
No, Palo Verde Valley Times from Google does not carry KCOP listings I said only 3 channels from 5, 9 & 11, that's all.
 
What about KCOP, Channel 13?

Here you go, RyanHoward.

KCOP 13:

5:30AM: Infomercial
6:00AM: Widget the World Watcher
6:30AM: Tom and Jerry
7:00AM: Stunt Dawgs
7:30AM: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
8:00AM: Adventures of T-Rex
8:30AM: James Bond Jr.
9:00AM: Tom and Jerry
9:30AM: Infomercial
10:00AM: Movie: I'm Dancing as Fast as I Can"
12:00PM: Montel Williams
1:00PM: Richard Bey
2:00PM: Matlock
3:00PM: People's Court
3:30PM: Rush Limbaugh
4:00PM: Montel Williams
5:00PM: The Cosby Show
5:30PM: A Different World
6:00PM: Roseanne
6:30PM: A Different World
7:00PM: Star Trek: The Next Generation
8:00PM: Movie: Against All Odds
10:00PM: News
11:00PM: Arsenio Hall
12:00AM: Night Court
12:30AM: Mama's Family
1:00AM: Rush Limbaugh
1:30AM: Movie: Home Before Dark
3:30AM: Movie: Tall Man Riding
 
No, Palo Verde Valley Times from Google does not carry KCOP listings I said only 3 channels from 5, 9 & 11, that's all.

I believe we established in a similar thread that this particular newspaper -- which is from Arizona, not California -- only carried listings for KTLA, KCAL and KTTV because only those three stations were being carried via microwave relay on cable systems in the Southwest.

The absence of KCOP is intentional, since none of that paper's readers could view the station.

That said, I suggest to all who post retro schedules that the state of a newspaper's origin be included to avoid this type of confusion. The source should have been therefore listed as "Palo Verde Valley (AZ) Times from Google News Archive".
 
I believe we established in a similar thread that this particular newspaper -- which is from Arizona, not California -- only carried listings for KTLA, KCAL and KTTV because only those three stations were being carried via microwave relay on cable systems in the Southwest.
The absence of KCOP is intentional, since none of that paper's readers could view the station.
I wonder why KCOP never bothered with out-of-area coverage, considering the other three stations were carried as far east as Albuquerque.
 
I wonder why KCOP never bothered with out-of-area coverage, considering the other three stations were carried as far east as Albuquerque.
The stations had no say in it. They were picked up off-air by a third party who then sold the microwave signals to cable systems in the Southwest. During the 1970s and 1980s, when that distribution was at its peak, KCOP was considered to be the weakest of the independents, programming-wise, and I'm sure the distributor decided not to spend the money to microwave a fourth station which might be shunned by the cable systems. (Even then, it was all about the ability to turn a profit.)
 
The stations had no say in it. They were picked up off-air by a third party who then sold the microwave signals to cable systems in the Southwest. During the 1970s and 1980s, when that distribution was at its peak, KCOP was considered to be the weakest of the independents, programming-wise, and I'm sure the distributor decided not to spend the money to microwave a fourth station which might be shunned by the cable systems. (Even then, it was all about the ability to turn a profit.)
You learn something new every day. Was third-party transmission common for regional superstations? And did the stations get any money for these third parties, the way WTBS did?
 
Was third-party transmission common for regional superstations? And did the stations get any money for these third parties, the way WTBS did?

Absolutely to the first, rarely for the second. In fact, Turner was not allowed to directly own his satellite transponder for WTBS. (See article on Satellite Program Network at the History of UHF Television website.) He had a unique arrangement whereby you paid the carrier, who in turn paid Ted.

The satellite distribution of WOR in New York and WGN in Chicago were also expansions of existing microwave distribution arrangements and the stations saw nothing. It wasn't until Tribune acquired the company that distributed WGN that they were able to control the programming that was run in place of those shows pre-empted by Syndex (the syndication exclusivity by market rule). And that is what led to WGN America.

I recall there were also microwave networks for KTVU Oakland-San Francisco, KTVT Dallas-Fort Worth and WSBK Boston at some points in time. Same thing; the stations didn't get any of the retransmission revenue.
 
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