Retro: Mexico City Thurs, Feb 14, 1974

[Bluenoser]

from TeleGuia
* and interestingly enough, given the discussion on cartoons with the last Mexican listings I posted, two cartoon characters appeared on that week's cover...La Tortuga d'Artagnan (Touche Turtle, the pic also shows a dog with him-what was his name?) and El Legarto Juancho (Wally Gator)
**and TeleGuia appears to be influenced by TV Guide in a couple of ways on their listings pages, using 70s style on the top of the listings pages, and the listings themselves look like TVG's listings through the late 50s and the 60s

XEW 2
7:00 Patron (test pattern/music)
2pm 24 Horas de la Tarde
2:30 Tareas Nacionales (government info)
2:45 Noticiario Infantil (c)
3:00 Nuestro Universo (c)
4:00 Maria Teresa
5:00 El Honorable Senor Valdez (c)
5:30 La Gata (return)
6:00 Extrano en Su Pueblo (c)
6:30 Ana del Aire (c)
7:00 El Tribunal (c)
7:30 Sube Pelayo, Sube (c)
7:45 Noticiario Domecq (c)
7:50 Sube Pelayo, Sube cont'd (c)
8:30 Profesion Desconocida (c)
9:00 Pelicula "La Valentina"
11:00 Gira Presidencial (c/looks at Presidential activities)
11:30 24 Horas (c)

XHTV 4
7:00 Hoy Mismo (c)
8:30 Astrologia
8:40 Artesanias (c)
8:50 El Medico (c)
9:00 Adelgace Cantando (c)
9:30 Cocina Practica (c)
9:50 Decoracion (c)
10:00 Cuide los Dientes de los Ninos (c)
10:20 Cafe de Media Manana (c)
1:30 La Hora de los Locutores (c)
2:30 Noticiario
2:35 Club del Hogar
4:30 Pelicula "Serenata en Mexico"
6:30 Artistas, Museos y Galerias
7:00 El Mundo en Que Vivimos (c)
8:00 Dimension 4 (c)
9:00 Los Campeones (c/this was a US show, I don't recognize the characters listed who were Withers, Craig and Sharron)
10:00 Cuestion de Minutos (c)
10:05 Centro Medico (c/Medical Center)
11:00 El Tela de Juicio (c)

XHGC 5
7:00 24 Horas (c)
8:30 TV Secundaria: Documental
8:50 TV Secundaria: Matematicas II
9:10 TV Secundaria: Fisica III
9:30 TV Secundaria: Espanol I
9:50 TV Secundaria: Historia II
10:10 TV Secundaria: Matematicas III
10:30 TV Secundaria: Educacion Artistica I
10:50 TV Secundaria: Espanol II
11:10 TV Secundaria: Espanol III
11:30 TV Secundaria: Documental
11:50 TV Secundaria: Educacion Artistica II
12:10 TV Secundaria: Quimica III
12:30 TV Secundaria: Documental
12:50 TV Secundaria: Geografia II
1:10 TV Secundaria: Educacion Artistica III
1:30 TV Secundaria: Tecnologicas II
1:50 TV Secundaria: Tecnologicas III
2:10 TV Secundaria: Educacion Fisica III
2:30 Las Caricaturas (c)
3:30 Fantasia Animada y Mr. Magoo (c)
4:00 Popeye el Marino (c/Popeye)
4:30 Ultraman (c)
5:00 Ecuadron Arco Iris (c)
5:30 Ahi Viene el Cascarrabias (c)
6:00 Tiro Loco McGraw (c/Quick Draw McGraw)
6:30 Festival de Porky (c/sounds like Looney Tunes)
7:00 El Universo 5 (c/Wild Kingdom)
8:00 Mi Bella Genio (c/I Dream of Jeannie)
8:30 El Super Agente 86 (c/Get Smart)
9:00 El Santo (c/Saint)
10:00 Los Vengadores (c)
11:00 Pelicula "Pecado Imperdonable"

Cablevision 7
5:30pm Aprendamos Ingles
7:00 Pelicula "El Hombre que Nunca Existio"
8:30 Cuatro Hombres Justos
10:30 Pelicula "Cuida a mi Pequena"

XHTM 8
3:30pm Club de Gutierrez Zamora
3:40 El Perro Volador (c/based on the title, sounds like Underdog)
4:10 El Hijo de Simbad (c)
4:40 El Hombre Arana (c/Spider-Man)
5:10 Fantasia Animada (c/Looney Tunes makes an appearance here too)
5:40 Super Presidente (c/Super President)
6:10 Campeones del Espacio (c/Batman, Superman, Aquaman)
6:30 En Punto (c)
7:30 La Hiena (c)
8:00 Siempre Habra un Manana (c)
8:30 Telecomicos (c)
10:00 Gira Presidencial
10:30 Profesion Peligro (c/Jake Webster was main character)
11:30 Hoy Mismo PM (c)
mid. Cada Noche lo Inesperado (c)

Cablevision 10
12:30pm Edge of Night
1:00 Daytime 90 (One Life to Live/General Hospital)
2:30 Three on a Match
3:00 Beverly Hillbillies
3:30 That Girl
4:00 Gilligan's Island (for 90 min?)
5:30 Maude
6:00 Ringling Bros.-Barnum & Bailey Circus
7:00 Movie "Ryan's Daughter"
10:00 Tonight Show (JIP, Johnny usually aired at 9:30)

XEIPN 11
4pm Los Amigos de Polito
4:30 Clases de Ingles
5:00 De Viva Voz (French lessons)
5:30 Los Libros en Imagenes
5:45 Documentales (films from the German government)
7:30 Orientacion Familiar
8:00 Opus Musical
8:30 Ciencia y Tecnologia en Accion
9:00 Diorama de la Cultura
9:30 Nuestro Siglo
11:00 Gira Presidencial (c)

XHDF 13
9:00 Dia del Telegrafista (c/from Gimnasio Olimpico Juan de la Barrera)
2:30 Notitrece (c)
3:00 El Club del Espectador (c)
4:00 Pampa Pipiltzin (c)
5:25 Platicame un Libro (c)
5:30 Caminos del Mundo
5:55 Reportaje (c)
6:00 Pelicula "Del Rosa al Amarillo"
8:00 El Otro Rostro de Mexico (c)
8:30 Pelicula "Historia de Amor" (c/Love Story)
10:30 Gira Presidencial (c)
11:00 Noticiario (c)
11:30 Pelicula "El Idiota"

 

[Stanislav]

Cablevision 10
12:30pm Edge of Night
1:00 Daytime 90 (One Life to Live/General Hospital)
2:30 Three on a Match
3:00 Beverly Hillbillies
3:30 That Girl
4:00 Gilligan's Island (for 90 min?)
5:30 Maude
6:00 Ringling Bros.-Barnum & Bailey Circus
7:00 Movie "Ryan's Daughter"
10:00 Tonight Show (JIP, Johnny usually aired at 9:30)

IIRC, I once read that the U.S. English shows imported for cable were microwaved from Texas, probably San Antonio, and they then picked and chose from the three network affiliates. Can anyone confirm or deny my memory on this? I'm not even sure if the arrangement was voluntary on the part of the U.S. stations-- for all we know, maybe they "pirated" the signals OTA from the Mexican side of the border, then microwaved them to Mexico City.

 

[mjlarochelle]

Cablevision 10
12:30pm Edge of Night
1:00 Daytime 90 (One Life to Live/General Hospital)
2:30 Three on a Match
3:00 Beverly Hillbillies
3:30 That Girl
4:00 Gilligan's Island (for 90 min?)
5:30 Maude
6:00 Ringling Bros.-Barnum & Bailey Circus
7:00 Movie "Ryan's Daughter"
10:00 Tonight Show (JIP, Johnny usually aired at 9:30)

IIRC, I once read that the U.S. English shows imported for cable were microwaved from Texas, probably San Antonio, and they then picked and chose from the three network affiliates. Can anyone confirm or deny my memory on this? I'm not even sure if the arrangement was voluntary on the part of the U.S. stations-- for all we know, maybe they "pirated" the signals OTA from the Mexican side of the border, then microwaved them to Mexico City.

I'm not sure on that, but Cablevision 10 sounds a lot like Mexico's America Network today, which is owned by Televisa and broadcasts entirely in English. They air mostly CBS programs including the CBS Evening News with Katie Couric, but I believe they also have a few ABC shows. When I was in Mexico I saw this cable channel along with another cable channel that was simulcasting Saturday Night Live from NBC, in English.

Today basic cable in Mexico City has about four English-only channels - the two aforemented channels, CNN International, and BBC World News. There may be another one I've forgotten about. In other areas you usually only get CNN International and America Network.

Bluenoser - did this edition have a station repeater list? Some previous Mexico postings here listed nationwide transmitter networks.

 

[bpatrick]

The dog with Touche Turtle was named Dum Dum, voiced
by Alan Reed (better known as the original voice of Fred
Flintstone). Bill Thompson was the voice of Touche Turtle.

 

[Bluenoser]

Cablevision 10
12:30pm Edge of Night
1:00 Daytime 90 (One Life to Live/General Hospital)
2:30 Three on a Match
3:00 Beverly Hillbillies
3:30 That Girl
4:00 Gilligan's Island (for 90 min?)
5:30 Maude
6:00 Ringling Bros.-Barnum & Bailey Circus
7:00 Movie "Ryan's Daughter"
10:00 Tonight Show (JIP, Johnny usually aired at 9:30)

IIRC, I once read that the U.S. English shows imported for cable were microwaved from Texas, probably San Antonio, and they then picked and chose from the three network affiliates. Can anyone confirm or deny my memory on this? I'm not even sure if the arrangement was voluntary on the part of the U.S. stations-- for all we know, maybe they "pirated" the signals OTA from the Mexican side of the border, then microwaved them to Mexico City.

I'm not sure on that, but Cablevision 10 sounds a lot like Mexico's America Network today, which is owned by Televisa and broadcasts entirely in English. They air mostly CBS programs including the CBS Evening News with Katie Couric, but I believe they also have a few ABC shows. When I was in Mexico I saw this cable channel along with another cable channel that was simulcasting Saturday Night Live from NBC, in English.

Today basic cable in Mexico City has about four English-only channels - the two aforemented channels, CNN International, and BBC World News. There may be another one I've forgotten about. In other areas you usually only get CNN International and America Network.

Bluenoser - did this edition have a station repeater list? Some previous Mexico postings here listed nationwide transmitter networks.

It did have a list of transmitter stations, with all 6 OTA channels having relays. XEW 2 had the largest network, including border stations in Juarez and Nuecvo Laredo.

 

[Bluenoser]

Cablevision 10
12:30pm Edge of Night
1:00 Daytime 90 (One Life to Live/General Hospital)
2:30 Three on a Match
3:00 Beverly Hillbillies
3:30 That Girl
4:00 Gilligan's Island (for 90 min?)
5:30 Maude
6:00 Ringling Bros.-Barnum & Bailey Circus
7:00 Movie "Ryan's Daughter"
10:00 Tonight Show (JIP, Johnny usually aired at 9:30)

IIRC, I once read that the U.S. English shows imported for cable were microwaved from Texas, probably San Antonio, and they then picked and chose from the three network affiliates. Can anyone confirm or deny my memory on this? I'm not even sure if the arrangement was voluntary on the part of the U.S. stations-- for all we know, maybe they "pirated" the signals OTA from the Mexican side of the border, then microwaved them to Mexico City.

I'm not sure on that, but Cablevision 10 sounds a lot like Mexico's America Network today, which is owned by Televisa and broadcasts entirely in English. They air mostly CBS programs including the CBS Evening News with Katie Couric, but I believe they also have a few ABC shows. When I was in Mexico I saw this cable channel along with another cable channel that was simulcasting Saturday Night Live from NBC, in English.

Today basic cable in Mexico City has about four English-only channels - the two aforemented channels, CNN International, and BBC World News. There may be another one I've forgotten about. In other areas you usually only get CNN International and America Network.

Bluenoser - did this edition have a station repeater list? Some previous Mexico postings here listed nationwide transmitter networks.

It did have a list of transmitter stations, with all 6 OTA channels having relays. XEW 2 had the largest network, including border stations in Juarez and Nuecvo Laredo.

Here are the relays of Mexico DF's networked programming (after checking the issue again, it appears that 13 didn't have any relays listed):

Canal 2
2 Atoyac, Acapulco, Cd. Altamirano, Cd. Juarez (and El Paso), Guadalajara, Huetamo
3 Coatzacoalcos, Queretaro, Edo. de Mexico, Guanajuato, Michoacan
4 Cd. Obregon, Sinaoloa, Tampico, Zamora
5 Chihuahua, Cd. Cuauhtemoc, Nayarit, Saltillo
6 Hermosillo
7 Colima, Culiacan, Chetumal, Oaxaca, Matamaros (and Lwr Rio Grande Valley), Parras, Tapachula, Cd. Guzman
8 Aguascalientes, Orizaba, Cordoba, Las Lajas, Tuxtla Gutierrez, Zacatecas, Navojoa, Cd. Jimenez
9 Merida, Monclova, Paso de Cortes, Tejupilco
10 Concepcion del Oro, Durango, Morelia, Monterrey, Tepic, Leon
11 Cd. Victoria, Nuevo Laredo (and Laredo), Torreon
12 Campeche, Chilpancingo, Mazatlan
13 Villahermosa

Canal 4
4 Acapulco
7 Paso de Cortes, Tejupilco
10 Las Lajas, Orizaba, Cordoba
12 Huetamo

Canal 5
3 Zacatecas
5 Edo. de Mexico, Veracruz
9 San Juan del Rio, Queretaro, Celaya, Salamanca, Irapuato, Zamora
13 Aguascalientes

Canal 8
2 Veracruz, Torreon, Chihuahua
3 Puebla, Zacatecas, Parral
4 Tepic
5 Edo. de Mexico, Queretaro, Guanajuato, Hidalgo, San Luis Potosi, Michoacan, El Zamorano
6 Monterrey
7 Mazatlan, Saltillo
9 Guadalajara, Tampico
10 Hermosillo
12 Los Mochis
13 Culiacan, Cd. Victoria

Canal 11
3 Sabinas y Nueva Rosita, Benjamin Hill, Pijijiapan, Arriaga, Tonala
4 La Perla, Plomosas, Namiquipa, Cd. Maderas, Hercules, Cd. Delicias
5 Colimia, Oaxaca y Caborca, Pitiquito y Altar
6 Piedras Negras (and Del Rio)
7 Salina Cruz
9 Villahermosa, Guaymas
11 Juchitan
12 Allende, Durango, Hermosillo
13 San Cristobal, Las Casas, Comitan, Cuencame

 

[mjlarochelle]

Here are the relays of Mexico DF's networked programming (after checking the issue again, it appears that 13 didn't have any relays listed):

Canal 2
2 Atoyac, Acapulco, Cd. Altamirano, Cd. Juarez (and El Paso), Guadalajara, Huetamo
3 Coatzacoalcos, Queretaro, Edo. de Mexico, Guanajuato, Michoacan
4 Cd. Obregon, Sinaoloa, Tampico, Zamora
5 Chihuahua, Cd. Cuauhtemoc, Nayarit, Saltillo
6 Hermosillo
7 Colima, Culiacan, Chetumal, Oaxaca, Matamaros (and Lwr Rio Grande Valley), Parras, Tapachula, Cd. Guzman
8 Aguascalientes, Orizaba, Cordoba, Las Lajas, Tuxtla Gutierrez, Zacatecas, Navojoa, Cd. Jimenez
9 Merida, Monclova, Paso de Cortes, Tejupilco
10 Concepcion del Oro, Durango, Morelia, Monterrey, Tepic, Leon

In those days XHDF Canal 13 was basically the local station for Mexico City, hence the "DF" in the call letters. Of course today that has evolved into Azteca 13.

Now I notice in the relay transmitter listings there are entire states mentioned - for Canal 2, for example, Michoacan is mentioned as having a relay on Canal 3 while several cities within the state also have relays. Did the guide actually list the state as having its own transmitter or am I misreading something? Edo. de Mexico is also listed in a couple places. Just seems confusing...

I also notice Tijuana didn't have transmitters of any network. While XEWT/12 would've broadcast some programs from the networks, it would appear that area of Mexico may have missed out on a lot of network programming.

 

[Bluenoser]

Here are the relays of Mexico DF's networked programming (after checking the issue again, it appears that 13 didn't have any relays listed):

Canal 2
2 Atoyac, Acapulco, Cd. Altamirano, Cd. Juarez (and El Paso), Guadalajara, Huetamo
3 Coatzacoalcos, Queretaro, Edo. de Mexico, Guanajuato, Michoacan
4 Cd. Obregon, Sinaoloa, Tampico, Zamora
5 Chihuahua, Cd. Cuauhtemoc, Nayarit, Saltillo
6 Hermosillo
7 Colima, Culiacan, Chetumal, Oaxaca, Matamaros (and Lwr Rio Grande Valley), Parras, Tapachula, Cd. Guzman
8 Aguascalientes, Orizaba, Cordoba, Las Lajas, Tuxtla Gutierrez, Zacatecas, Navojoa, Cd. Jimenez
9 Merida, Monclova, Paso de Cortes, Tejupilco
10 Concepcion del Oro, Durango, Morelia, Monterrey, Tepic, Leon

In those days XHDF Canal 13 was basically the local station for Mexico City, hence the "DF" in the call letters. Of course today that has evolved into Azteca 13.

Now I notice in the relay transmitter listings there are entire states mentioned - for Canal 2, for example, Michoacan is mentioned as having a relay on Canal 3 while several cities within the state also have relays. Did the guide actually list the state as having its own transmitter or am I misreading something? Edo. de Mexico is also listed in a couple places. Just seems confusing...

I also notice Tijuana didn't have transmitters of any network. While XEWT/12 would've broadcast some programs from the networks, it would appear that area of Mexico may have missed out on a lot of network programming.

What's posted there is what TeleGuia printed in their relay lists, not sure as to where exactly the tx listed as just the state name exactly covered, whether it was statewide or just in certain areas of that state.