Retro: New York City, Monday, October 11, 1948

[Bob1370]

Source; NY Times


WCBS-TV-Channel 2 (CBS)

Afternoon

12:45-World Series Baseball

Evening

6:15-Music and Weather
6:30-LBucrokwyn Pup-Children's Show. With Darla
6:45-Bob Howard Show
7:00-Film Shorts
7:15-Places. Please, With Barry Wood
7:30-CBS News; Douglas Edwards
7:45-Face the Music; Johnny Desmond. Tony Mottola Trio Sandra Deel
8:00-Flims: Shorts
8:30-Film Theatre of the Air: Lady From Frisco, With Rita Hayworth
9:45-Fllm Shorts and Newsreel

WNBT-Channel 4 (NBC)

Afternoon

12:45-World Series Baseball: Cleveland at Boston (All Stations carry NBC feed)
5:30-Howdy Doody. With Buffalo Bob Smith

Evening

7:30-America Song
7:50-Newsreel-John Cameron Swayze
8:00-Play Thinking Aloud. With Judith Evelyn and Dean Jagger
8:30-Americana. Ben Grauer and Students
9:00-Television Newsreel
9:10-Boxing; From St. Nicholas Arena: Feature Bout at 10

WABD-Channel 5 (DuMont)

Afternoon

12:45-World Series Baseball

Evening

6:00-Small Fry Club with Bob Emery
6:30-Sports-Russ Hodges. and Films
7:00-Doorway to Fame (talent competition)
7:30-Camera Headlines (news); Films
8:00-Champagne and Orchids
9:00-Film Shorts
9:30-Forum. Court of Current Issues

WJZ-TV-Channel 7 (ABC)

Afternoon

12:45-World Series Baseball
5:30-Cartoon Teletales

Evening

7:00-News and Views: H. R. Baughage and Jim Gibbon,
7:15-The Fitzgeralds (talk)
7:30-Klernan's Corner, From International House Riverside Drive
8:00-Quizzing the News: Guests-Alan Prescott. With Wellington Roe. Jessica Russell and Walter Cassell
9:00-Yom Kippur Program: Films depicting Horne Life In Palestine During Life of Christ

WP1X-Channel 11 (Ind)

Afternoon

12:45-World Series Baseball
5:05--News: Pixie Playtime. With Frank Paris
5:45-Comics on Parade-Danny Webb

Evening

6:00-Records
7:00-News: Record Rendezvous-Stan Shaw
7:30-Newsreel: Film Shorts
7:40-Broadway First .Nighters, at St. James Theatre: Interviews
8:15-U. N. Carnival: Peru
8:45-Film Shorts
9:00-News and Newsreel

WATV-Channel 13 (Ind)

Morning
10:00 AM-Test Pattern

Afternoon

12:45-World Series Baseball

Again, all six stations on the air in New York in the fall of simulcast the NBC World Series feed this year. This was at the behest of the principal sponsors including Gilette. This multi-station simulcast was repeated in New York once more for the 1949 World Series (which was a closely fought subway series involving the Yankees and Brooklyn Dodgers); by then WOR-TV had begun operation, and it increased the size of the World Series simulcast to seven stations.

 

[Joseph_Gallant]

I believe that the TV rights to the World Series back then were not held by any network, but by the sponsor, Gilette Razor Blades, with their ad agency possibly producing the telecasts.

The simulcast was done not so much for New York, but in an effort to insure that every city on the "coaxial cable" (back then, it went along the East Coast from Richmond north to New York and then split into two links, going to Schenectady and Boston; it would not be until September of 1951 that it reached the West Coast) would have the Series seen on at least one station.

I'm pretty sure this pattern continued through the early 1950's, and even later with regular-season flagship stations simulcasting the network feed. For example, NBC's coverage of the 1967 World Series between the Boston Red Sox and St. Louis Cardinals was simulcast here in Boston on both WBZ-4 (then the NBC affiliate) and the old WHDH-5 (which at the time was the Red Sox flagship station during the regular-season)

 

[Fenway1912]

The 1948 World Series used Stratovision to connect the east and midwest

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/playoffs/2008-10-26-1948-world-series_n.htm

 

[Joseph_Gallant]

Fenway 1912:

I knew Stratovision had been developed by 1948, but I did not know it was actually used to connect the East and Midwest for the World Series.

Vintage TV listings in the Boston Globe during the 1948 Series do not indicate that the games in Cleveland would be televised in Boston.

I wonder if it was also used on the day after the 1948 election to beam Governor Tom Dewey's concession speech to the Midwest (President Truman's victory speech wasn't shown anywhere on TV, it was in Independence, Missouri near Kansas City, which was not yet connected to network lines and as far as I know, didn't yet have any local TV stations).

 

[Fenway1912]

Fenway 1912:

I knew Stratovision had been developed by 1948, but I did not know it was actually used to connect the East and Midwest for the World Series.

Vintage TV listings in the Boston Globe during the 1948 Series do not indicate that the games in Cleveland would be televised in Boston.

I wonder if it was also used on the day after the 1948 election to beam Governor Tom Dewey's concession speech to the Midwest (President Truman's victory speech wasn't shown anywhere on TV, it was in Independence, Missouri near Kansas City, which was not yet connected to network lines and as far as I know, didn't yet have any local TV stations).

I have never seen any story about the games in Cleveland being beamed to the east.

The plane was set up to relay WMAR-TV in Baltimore but perhaps the station in Cleveland did not have the equipment needed to get a signal to plane.

New York and Chicago were connected in early 1949.

 

[Tim L]

Here's a link to an article from the Cleveland Plain Dealer for Monday, October 11, 1948, describing Stratovision in detail..Fascinating technolgy for the era..

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...6096739326.141367.245324499326&type=1&theater

 

[Fenway1912]

Here's a link to an article from the Cleveland Plain Dealer for Monday, October 11, 1948, describing Stratovision in detail..Fascinating technolgy for the era..

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...6096739326.141367.245324499326&type=1&theater

I am taking an educated guess that Stratovision had no way of sending a Midwest signal to the east. Cleveland did not win the pennant until they beat the Red Sox in a playoff game and there would not have been enough time to set WEWS-TV up.

I suspect that the delay in AT&T connecting New York and Chicago was that Pittsburgh didn't get VHF until 1949 and that was DuMont to boot.

However Buffalo was connected to New York when WBEN-TV signed on in May of 1948 and Buffalo/Cleveland should have been an easy connect for AT&T. It 'appears' that AT&T waited until WICU-12 in Erie, PA came along in 1949 to make the connection.

I am assuming that Erie was the connect point between east and midwest.

 

[BMR]

I believe that the TV rights to the World Series back then were not held by any network, but by the sponsor, Gilette Razor Blades, with their ad agency possibly producing the telecasts.

The simulcast was done not so much for New York, but in an effort to insure that every city on the "coaxial cable" (back then, it went along the East Coast from Richmond north to New York and then split into two links, going to Schenectady and Boston;

New York- Schenectady is quite a leap. Would there have been a mid point somewhere, or did the signal stretch that far back then?

 

[Fenway1912]

I believe that the TV rights to the World Series back then were not held by any network, but by the sponsor, Gilette Razor Blades, with their ad agency possibly producing the telecasts.

The simulcast was done not so much for New York, but in an effort to insure that every city on the "coaxial cable" (back then, it went along the East Coast from Richmond north to New York and then split into two links, going to Schenectady and Boston;

New York- Schenectady is quite a leap. Would there have been a mid point somewhere, or did the signal stretch that far back then?

New York-Albany-Buffalo was set up first and Boston was a separate line.