Retro: Philadelphia Wed, May 23, 1962

[Bluenoser]

from TV Guide-Philadelphia edition
Not listed: WHYY 35-Edu Philadelphia; programs aired 9:30am-4pm and 6-10pm

WRCV 3-NBC
5:45 Thought for Today (Rev. Edward J. Thompson)
5:50 Farm & Market News
5:55 News
6:00 Continental Classroom "Probability and Statistics"/"American Government" (both c)
7:00 Today
9:00 Lee Dexter
9:20 What's Doing? (Bob Bradley)
9:25 News (Bob again)
9:30 Exercise (c/Gloria)
10:00 Say When
10:30 Play Your Hunch (c)
11:00 Price is Right (c)
11:30 Concentration
noon Your First Impression (c)
12:30 Truth or Consequences
12:55 NBC News
1:00 Douglas Fairbanks
1:30 Television Kitchen (c/Florence Hanford)
2:00 Jan Murray (c)
2:25 NBC News
2:30 Loretta Young "Quiet Desperation"
3:00 Young Dr. Malone
3:30 Our Five Daughters
4:00 Make Room for Daddy "Jealousy"
4:30 Here's Hollywood (Jack Linkletter interviews Shirley Knight, while Ross Martin is interviewed by Helen O'Connell)
4:55 NBC News
5:00 Kukla, Fran & Ollie "The Bird Finds a Mother"
5:05 5 O'Clock Show "Thunder in the Valley"
6:25 Sports (c/Jim Leaming)
6:30 News (c/Vince Leonard)
6:40 Weather (c/Wally Kinnan)
6:45 NBC News
7:00 Beachcomber "Long Live the Sultan"
7:30 Wagon Train "The Frank Carter Story"
8:30 Joey Bishop "The Ham in the Family" (c)
9:00 Perry Como (c/guest Anne Bancroft; Michigan is State of the Week)
10:00 Bob Newhart (c)
10:30 David Brinkley's Journal (c/relayed on WHP 21)
11:00 News (c/Vince Leonard)
11:10 Weather (c/Wally Kinnan)
11:15 Tonight Show (c/Jan Murray guest josts)
1:00 FBI Most Wanted
1:05 Danger is My Business "Australian Lifesaver" (c)
1:35 Concept

WFIL 6-ABC
Channels following program titles indicate network programs relayed by WLYH 15-Lebanon, WTPA 27-Harrisburg, and WSBA 43-York
6:15 RFD 6
6:30 Operation Alphabet
7:00 News (Jim McCann)
7:05 Breakfast Time (c)
7:45 Rocky & His Friends (Bullwinkle)
8:00 Happy the Clown
8:55 News (Jim McCann)
9:00 Trim 'n Slim
9:15 Morgan in the Morning (guests from Notre Dame de Lourdes Ladies Auxiliary)
9:50 Features for Woman
10:00 Tennessee Ernie Ford
10:30 Yours for a Song
11:00 Studio Schoolhouse
11:15 University of the Air
noon Camouflage (15-27-43)
12:30 Window Shopping (15-27-43)
1:00 Day in Court (15-27-43)
1:25 ABC News (15-27-43)
1:30 Who Do You Trust? (15)
2:00 Jane Wyman "A Pound of Law" (15-27-43)
2:30 Seven Keys (15-27-43)
3:00 Queen for a Day (live from Seattle; 15-27-43)
3:30 American Bandstand (15)
4:50 American Newsstand (15-27-43)
5:00 Rocky & His Friends (Bullwinkle)
5:30 Popeye Theater (c)
6:25 Clutch Cargo (c)
6:30 True Adventure "Bottom of the World" (c/scientific work at a US Navy station in Antarctica)
7:00 News (c/Gunnar Beck)
7:10 Weather (c/Davis)
7:15 ABC News
7:30 Howard K. Smith (15-27-43)
8:00 Straightaway "The Racer and the Lady" (15-27-43)
8:30 Top Cat "Hawaii-Here We Come" (27-43)
9:00 Hawaiian Eye "Scene of the Crime" (15-27-43)
10:00 Naked City "The Multiplicity of Herbert Konish" (15-27-43)
11:00 ABC News (15-43)
11:10 News (c/Gunnar Beck)
11:20 Weather (c/Davis)
11:25 Sports (c/Mal Alberts)
11:30 World's Best Movies "Lillian Russell"

WCAU 10-CBS
* indicates network programs relayed by WHP 21-Harrisburg
5:50 Give Us This Day
5:55 News
6:00 College of the Air "New Biology"
6:30 Television Seminar
7:00 Bill Bennett's Almanac "Equipment for Backyard Cooking" (guest Dorothy Bucker)
7:30 News (Crane/Hart/Leslie)
7:45 Pixanne
8:00 Captain Kangaroo
9:00 Gene London
9:55 News (Bob Collier)
10:00 Calendar*
10:30 I Love Lucy*
11:00 Video Village*
11:30 Clear Horizon*
11:55 CBS News*
noon Love of Life*
12:30 Search for Tomorrow*
12:45 Guiding Light*
1:00 News (Bob Collier)
1:05 Burns & Allen
1:30 As the World Turns
2:00 Password*
2:30 House Party* (psychologist Nathan Leichman discusses problems of school drop-outs)
3:00 Millionaire*
3:30 Verdict is Yours*
3:55 CBS News*
4:00 Brighter Day*
4:15 Secret Storm*
4:30 Edge of Night
5:00 Highway Patrol
5:30 Early Show "The Great Profile"
7:00 News/Comment/Weather/Sports
7:15 CBS News*
7:30 Alvin
8:00 Window on Main Street*
8:30 Checkmate "Will the Real Killer Please Stand Up?"*
9:30 Dick Van Dyke*
10:00 Armstrong Circle Theater "The Secret Crime"*
11:00 News (John Facenda)
11:10 Weather (Herb Clarke)
11:15 Late Show "Seventh Heaven"
1:10 Late Late Show "Ding Dong Williams"
2:40 News

WGAL 8-CBS/NBC Lancaster
6:00 Continental Classroom (c/same classes as ch 3)
7:00 Today
9:00 You Asked for It
9:30 Cartoons (c)
9:40 Kukla, Fran & Ollie "Curtain Trouble" (pt 2)
9:45 Gateway to Glamor
10:00 Say When
10:30 Play Your Hunch (c)
11:00 Price is Right (c)
11:30 Concentration
noon News (Nelson Sears)
12:05 Personalities & Events
12:10 Weather (Anne Herr)
12:15 TV Farmer (Bob Malick)
12:30 Truth or Consequences
12:55 NBC News
1:00 Byline, Steve Wilson
1:30 As the World Turns
2:00 Love That Bob!
2:30 Loretta Young "Quiet Desperation"
3:00 Young Dr. Malone
3:30 Our Five Daughters
4:00 Star Time
4:30 Edge of Night
5:00 Yogi Bear
5:30 Colonel Bleep (c)
5:45 Bat Masterson "The Conspiracy"
6:15 News/Weather/Sports
6:45 NBC News
7:00 Everglades "Unwanted-Dead or Alive"
7:30 Wagon Train "The Frank Carter Story"
8:30 Joey Bishop "The Ham in the Family" (c)
9:00 Perry Como (c)
10:00 Armstrong Circle Theater "The Secret Crime"
11:00 News/Sports/Weather (c)
11:30 Tonight Show (c)
1:00 News

 

[FredLeonard]

Very interesting!

When did WHYY leave channel 35 (now WYBE) and take over channel 12. It seems at this point, channel 12 had been dark for several years.

John Facenda. Vince Leonard. Wally Kinnan, the weatherman. Much classier than the current bunch. Was Herb Clarke doing both early and late weather? Seem like he did the early weather and Jack Whittaker did the late weather.

The Lee Dexter Show was commonly called "Bertie the Bunyip." Bertie was a puppet and the show featured old two-reel comedies.

Had Wee Willie Webber stopped doing the morning show at channel six at this time?

Who Do You Trust (at this point minus Johnny Carson) actually ran at 3:30. Channel six taped it and ran a local half hour of Bandstand instead.

No channels 17, 29, 48 and 57 yet.

 

[Joseph_Gallant]

WFIL 6-ABC
Channels following program titles indicate network programs relayed by WLYH 15-Lebanon, WTPA 27-Harrisburg, and WSBA 43-York

3:00 Queen for a Day (live from Seattle; 15-27-43)

Chances are, the remote telecast of "Queen For A Day" originated from the World's Far being held in Seattle that year.

 

[Joseph_Gallant]

Who Do You Trust (at this point minus Johnny Carson) actually ran at 3:30. Channel six taped it and ran a local half hour of Bandstand instead.

I had thought that Johnny Carson, although not being able to start on "The Tonight Show" until October 1st of 1962, was under contact to the producers of "Who Do You Trust" until the end of September. I believe Johnny remained as emcee of that show through September.

Had the producers of "Trust" released Johnny earlier, he likely could have started on "Tonight" earlier.

BTW, in his memoir Rock, Roll, and Remember, Dick Clark wrote that when ABC stuck "Who Do You Trust" in the middle of "American Bandstand", that WFIL-6 didn't take "Trust", instead doing a local half-hour of "Bandstand" before the show rejoined the network. Although Clark didn't write about it, there is a chance that as early as 1958 (when this happened), WFIL did with "Trust" what they were doing in May of 1962: taping the show for a delayed broadcast.

Maybe someone in Philly can verify this, but perhaps there was always at least a half-hour of "American Bandstand" that was broadcast only in Philadelphia during the entire six-year time (1957-63) that it was broadcast every weekday on the network.

 

[KeithE4]

When did WHYY leave channel 35 (now WYBE) and take over channel 12. It seems at this point, channel 12 had been dark for several years.

WVUE Wilmington had gone dark in 1958. Storer had to sell it or shut it down when it bought WITI-TV Milwaukee; it did the latter. WITI put Storer over the 5-VHF limit. WHYY moved from 35 to 12 in 1963.

 

[bpatrick]

"Who Do You Trust?" did air on ABC at 3:30, and in Raleigh
we got it at 1:30 but for a different reason. When WRAL
switched from NBC to ABC that same year, it maintained a
few NBC shows (this was a two-station market) including
NBC's two soaps, "Young Dr. Malone" at 3 and "Our Five
Daughters" (which for the life of me I do not remember)
at 3:30. (WTVD was carrying "The Millionaire" at 3 and,
as of June 18, "To Tell The Truth" at 3:30.) So WRAL had
a problem: clear the two ABC shows, "Queen For A Day"
and "Who Do You Trust?" in pattern, meaning that one of
the NBC soaps would have to go against that juggernaut
known as "As The World Turns," or delay the two ABC shows.
They opted for the latter, as both ABC and NBC were down
from 1-2 in those days. Later, WRAL carried "You Don't Say!"
at 3:30 for awhile but CBS (and WTVD) put "Edge Of Night"
against it in the summer of '63; either because of that, or
because of pressure from ABC, WRAL finally moved "Who Do
You Trust?" (by now with Woody Woodbury as host) to 3:30
in the fall of '63, and finally carried "Queen For A Day" in pattern
when it replaced "Trust" on December 30, 1963.

As for Johnny's being on "Trust" for six months after signing his
contract with NBC, ABC (or perhaps more accurately, Don Fedderson)
meant to hold him to it; "Trust" and "Bandstand" were ABC's two most
popular daytime shows at the time. That didn't prevent Johnny from
getting in a dig at ABC practically every day in the spring and summer
of '62, mostly jokes about how the Alphabet Network was holding him
prisoner. (One of his more memorable cracks was, "Welcome to ABC,
the network with a heart.")

One another note about ABC daytime in those years; elsewhere there's
a mention of the passing of Judge Edgar Allan Jones Jr. of "Day In Court"
(Jones was a UCLA law professor who did this as a sideline and gained his
fifteen minutes of fame). Unless I'm missing something, the only ABC daytime
personalities from that era still left are Johnny Gilbert (announcer on "Camouflage"
and Bert Parks' "Yours For A Song"), Don Morrow (host of "Camouflage"), Woody
Woodbury (Carson's replacement on "Who Do You Trust?"), and Jim Lange (then
the announcer on Tennessee Ernie Ford's morning show). Lange turns 80 in July;
Gilbert is pushing 90; Morrow and Woodbury are well into their 80s.

 

[Bluenoser]

WFIL 6-ABC
Channels following program titles indicate network programs relayed by WLYH 15-Lebanon, WTPA 27-Harrisburg, and WSBA 43-York

3:00 Queen for a Day (live from Seattle; 15-27-43)

Chances are, the remote telecast of "Queen For A Day" originated from the World's Far being held in Seattle that year.

And you are correct...the listing does mention the World's Fair...

 

[FredLeonard]

WFIL 6-ABC
Channels following program titles indicate network programs relayed by WLYH 15-Lebanon, WTPA 27-Harrisburg, and WSBA 43-York

3:00 Queen for a Day (live from Seattle; 15-27-43)

Chances are, the remote telecast of "Queen For A Day" originated from the World's Far being held in Seattle that year.

And you are correct...the listing does mention the World's Fair...

If they did the show from San Francisco today, the title would have a whole other meaning. :

 

[NeilRattigan]

A correction. The news anchor at WFIL-TV was Gunnar Back, not Beck.

 

[FredLeonard]

A correction. The news anchor at WFIL-TV was Gunnar Back, not Beck.

Back had replaced Taylor Grant on channel 6's newscasts. Both had previously worked for ABC News. Station owner Walter Annenberg reportedly fired Grant for his liberal comments in the news. Even so, he kept Grant on as the voice of TV Guide commercials (he also owned TV Guide) for many years. Back in turn was replaced by Larry Kane when channel six introduced the Action News format, based on the radio newscasts heard on top 40 WFIL radio, where Kane was one of the radio newscasters.

A local alternative paper described Back as always "looking really pissed off that he had to read you the news." You know, he did.

 

[Tim L]

Wally Kinnan The Weatherman was at WRCV, as he had been since 1958. Dick Goddard was already becoming the most popular Weatherman in Cleveland at KYW-TV when the Philly-Cleveland swap happened in June 1965. Goddard at the time tried to contact Kinnan just as the swap was about to take place to arrange a way for both to stay where they were, but Kinnan was on vacation..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGXAFZDE2N0&feature=youtu.be

Story of KYW/WKYC swap back in 1965..

 

[FredLeonard]

From what was reported at the time, under the deal between the two companies, NBC was allowed to keep and move Wally Kinnan with them to Cleveland. Group W was allowed to keep and move Mike Douglas.

Despite any ill will, KYW-TV remained an NBC affiliate for another 30 years until Westinghouse bought CBS. Westinghouse had been a part-owner of RCA, and thus of NBC, until both Westinghouse and GE were forced to divest their interests in RCA. Up to then, NBC had operated (but not owned) the Westinghouse stations. Just prior to the swap, Westinghouse had cancelled its radio stations' affiliations with the NBC Radio Network. When the swap was undone, Westinghouse promptly ended its radio affiliation with NBC in Philly (and flipped to all news). When GE, one of Westinghouse's original partners in RCA and NBC, regained ownership of NBC, it pulled NBC out of radio completely.