Retro: Phoenix Network Affils--Tue Nov 10, 1964

[oldiesfan6479]

Source: Arizona Republic microfilm
Time Zone MST

KTVK 3 ABC Phoenix (now indie)
AM
07:50 News
07:55 Cartoons
08:25 News
08:30 Price Is Right
09:00 Get The Message
09:30 Missing Links
10:00 Father Knows Best
10:30 Tennessee Ernie Ford
11:00 Susie
11:30 Homemakers Showcase
PM
12:00 Femme Fair
12:30 Day In Court
12:55 ABC News
01:00 General Hospital
01:30 Young Marrieds
02:00 Trailmaster
--ABC daytime: live east coast feed 8:30-3:00, network dark 11:00-12:30.
03:00 Movie
05:00 ABC/Local News
05:30 Laramie
06:30 Combat!
07:30 McHale's Navy
08:00 The Tycoon
08:30 Peyton Place
09:00 The Fugitive
--ABC prime time: aired "in pattern" 6:30-10:00 via 16mm film run at KTVK.
(Same episodes as on the network that night.)
10:00 ABC/Local News
10:30 Les Crane
AM
12:15 Movie


KOOL-TV 10 CBS Phoenix (now KSAZ-TV Fox)
AM
06:20 Farm And Ranch
06:30 Sunrise Semester
07:00 Captain Kangaroo
08:00 CBS News
08:30 I Love Lucy
09:00 Andy Of Mayberry
09:30 McCoys
10:00 Love Of Life
10:25 CBS News
10:30 Search For Tomorrow
10:45 Guiding Light
11:00 December Bride
11:30 As The World Turns
12:00 Password
12:30 House Party
01:00 To Tell The Truth
01:25 CBS News
01:30 Edge Of Night
02:00 Secret Storm
02:30 Jack Benny
--CBS daytime: live east coast feed 8:00-3:00, network dark 11:00-11:30.
03:00 Gale Storm
03:30 Mickey Mouse Club
04:00 Lone Ranger
04:30 Have Gun Will Travel
05:00 CBS Evening News/Cronkite
05:30 Local News
06:00 Huckleberry Hound
06:30 Marshal Dillon (syndication) (network dark 7:30-8:00 ET)
07:00 World War I (8:00 ET)
07:30 Petticoat Junction
08:00 Doctors And The Nurses
09:00 Red Skelton (8:30 ET)
10:00 Local News
10:25 Regis Philbin (syndication)
11:55 Local News


KTAR-TV 12 NBC Mesa (now KPNX)
AM
06:25 RFD 12
06:30 Singin' Time
07:00 Today
08:00 Make Room For Daddy
08:30 What's This Song?
08:55 NBC News
09:00 Concentration
09:30 Jeopardy!
10:00 Say When
10:30 Truth Or Consequences
10:55 NBC News
11:00 Romper Room
11:30 Let's Make A Deal
11:55 NBC News
12:00 Loretta Young
12:30 The Doctors
01:00 Another World
01:30 You Don't Say!
02:00 Match Game
02:25 NBC News
--NBC daytime: live east coast feed 8:00-2:30, network dark 11:00-11:30.
02:30 Movie
05:00 Bat Masterson
05:30 NBC News/Huntley-Brinkley
06:00 Local News
06:30 Mr. Novak
07:30 That Was The Week That Was
08:00 Bell Telephone Hour
09:00 Man From U.N.C.L.E.
--NBC prime time: Mr. Novak (7:30 ET) was the episode from Oct 27, program did not
air on network Nov 3. Man From U.N.C.L.E. (8:30 ET) was that night's episode.
10:00 Local News
10:30 Tonight Show/Carson
AM
12:00 Local News
12:05 Movie

 

[bpatrick]

Nov. 3 was election night, when LBJ trounced Barry Goldwater.

"TW3" had poked so much fun at Goldwater that he began buying
the Tuesday 9:30 (ET) slot on NBC for his political talks; only twice
between September and Election Day was he unable to pre-empt.
On the "TW3" broadcast of Nov. 10, one of the cast members opened
by saying something like, "The political speech normally scheduled at this
time will not be seen tonight." Unfortunately, "TW3" had been pre-empted
so often during September and October that viewers had committed to either
"Peyton Place" (ABC) or "Petticoat Junction" (CBS), and the show never
recovered the popularity of its Friday-night run from January to July 1964.

Political satire would not emerge on a regular basis in primetime again until
"The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour" and "Laugh-In" later in the '60s.

 

[Ultimajock]

...any particular reason why KPHO-TV/5 and KAET/8 were bypassed in this listing? Certainly, the Arizona Republic had those schedules, too...

Nov. 3 was election night, when LBJ trounced Barry Goldwater.

"TW3" had poked so much fun at Goldwater that he began buying
the Tuesday 9:30 (ET) slot on NBC for his political talks; only twice
between September and Election Day was he unable to pre-empt.
On the "TW3" broadcast of Nov. 10, one of the cast members opened
by saying something like, "The political speech normally scheduled at this
time will not be seen tonight." Unfortunately, "TW3" had been pre-empted
so often during September and October that viewers had committed to either
"Peyton Place" (ABC) or "Petticoat Junction" (CBS), and the show never
recovered the popularity of its Friday-night run from January to July 1964.

...and I still wonder exactly how much legitimate heat there was in that "feud" between TW3 and Jack Paar, whose show aired directly afterwards on Fridays. Perhaps Paar actually did complain to the NBC programming brass long enough to get TW3 moved to Tuesdays? I'm pretty sure that, of the prominent talk shows in the years after his program was cancelled, Paar never guested on David Frost. Nor, as I recall, did he appear on The Mike Douglas Show; both Frost and Douglas were distributed by Westinghouse, who'd pre-empted Paar's Tonight years from KYW-TV/3 in Cleveland, Paar's old home market (he'd been an announcer for WGAR before WW2). So maybe Paar held a grudge against both Frost and Westinghouse...

 

[oldiesfan6479]

...any particular reason why KPHO-TV/5 and KAET/8 were bypassed in this listing? Certainly, the Arizona Republic had those schedules, too...

Yes it did, bit I just wanted to highlight Mountain Time Zone market schedules for ABC/CBS/NBC.

 

[TexasTuner]

Source: Arizona Republic microfilm
Time Zone MST

KTVK 3 ABC Phoenix (now indie)
AM
07:50 News
07:55 Cartoons
08:25 News
08:30 Price Is Right
09:00 Get The Message
09:30 Missing Links
10:00 Father Knows Best
10:30 Tennessee Ernie Ford
11:00 Susie
11:30 Homemakers Showcase
PM
12:00 Femme Fair
12:30 Day In Court
12:55 ABC News
01:00 General Hospital
01:30 Young Marrieds
02:00 Trailmaster
--ABC daytime: live east coast feed 8:30-3:00, network dark 11:00-12:30.
03:00 Movie
05:00 ABC/Local News
05:30 Laramie
06:30 Combat!
07:30 McHale's Navy
08:00 The Tycoon
08:30 Peyton Place
09:00 The Fugitive
--ABC prime time: aired "in pattern" 6:30-10:00 via 16mm film run at KTVK.
(Same episodes as on the network that night.)
10:00 ABC/Local News
10:30 Les Crane
AM
12:15 Movie


KOOL-TV 10 CBS Phoenix (now KSAZ-TV Fox)
AM
06:20 Farm And Ranch
06:30 Sunrise Semester
07:00 Captain Kangaroo
08:00 CBS News
08:30 I Love Lucy
09:00 Andy Of Mayberry
09:30 McCoys
10:00 Love Of Life
10:25 CBS News
10:30 Search For Tomorrow
10:45 Guiding Light
11:00 December Bride
11:30 As The World Turns
12:00 Password
12:30 House Party
01:00 To Tell The Truth
01:25 CBS News
01:30 Edge Of Night
02:00 Secret Storm
02:30 Jack Benny
--CBS daytime: live east coast feed 8:00-3:00, network dark 11:00-11:30.
03:00 Gale Storm
03:30 Mickey Mouse Club
04:00 Lone Ranger
04:30 Have Gun Will Travel
05:00 CBS Evening News/Cronkite
05:30 Local News
06:00 Huckleberry Hound
06:30 Marshal Dillon (syndication) (network dark 7:30-8:00 ET)
07:00 World War I (8:00 ET)
07:30 Petticoat Junction
08:00 Doctors And The Nurses
09:00 Red Skelton (8:30 ET)
10:00 Local News
10:25 Regis Philbin (syndication)
11:55 Local News


KTAR-TV 12 NBC Mesa (now KPNX)
AM
06:25 RFD 12
06:30 Singin' Time
07:00 Today
08:00 Make Room For Daddy
08:30 What's This Song?
08:55 NBC News
09:00 Concentration
09:30 Jeopardy!
10:00 Say When
10:30 Truth Or Consequences
10:55 NBC News
11:00 Romper Room
11:30 Let's Make A Deal
11:55 NBC News
12:00 Loretta Young
12:30 The Doctors
01:00 Another World
01:30 You Don't Say!
02:00 Match Game
02:25 NBC News
--NBC daytime: live east coast feed 8:00-2:30, network dark 11:00-11:30.
02:30 Movie
05:00 Bat Masterson
05:30 NBC News/Huntley-Brinkley
06:00 Local News
06:30 Mr. Novak
07:30 That Was The Week That Was
08:00 Bell Telephone Hour
09:00 Man From U.N.C.L.E.
--NBC prime time: Mr. Novak (7:30 ET) was the episode from Oct 27, program did not
air on network Nov 3. Man From U.N.C.L.E. (8:30 ET) was that night's episode.
10:00 Local News
10:30 Tonight Show/Carson
AM
12:00 Local News
12:05 Movie

So I see where KTVK ran the ABC primetime shows off their local film chain..how about KTAR and KOOL? Where they tape delayed, or film?

 

[oldiesfan6479]

So I see where KTVK ran the ABC primetime shows off their local film chain..how about KTAR and KOOL?
Where they tape delayed, or film?

Generally, in the mid-1960s...

KTVK/ABC
Sun-Fri: in pattern on 16mm film. Sat: aired network live starting at 5:30. The rare ABC
show that was live or on tape Sun-Fri would be tape-delayed.

KOOL-TV/CBS
Mon-Fri: A mix of part of the schedule live net, part tape-delayed. There were a few shows
that aired on 16mm film from KOOL. Sat-Sun: network aired live starting at 5:30 or 5:00.

KTAR-TV/NBC
I'm not sure how they did delays, however weeknights were generally a combo of some live
net and some delay. I believe weekends were all live net. For this particular night, with Mr.
Novak being at least a week (or two) late, it could have been tape or film. UNCLE was most
likely tape, being same night.

I have seen local KTAR ads from the fall of '64 which piggybacked on the network's "NBC Week"
theme, stating "NBC Week...so big it takes two weeks!" I'm sure this meant there were some
shows airing a week late.

 

[bpatrick]

Running network shows live (5:30-9 PM Saturdays/5-9 PM Sundays
MT) on weekends seems to have been pretty normal throughout the
Mountain time zone in those days. I once posted some Denver listings
from 1967 which showed most everything airing right along with the Eastern and
Central time zones (although I recall KMGH delaying "It's About Time,"
which was on CBS at 5:30 MT). That, of course, would not have
been practical during the work week, but I think the ABC affiliates
did the best job of minimizing delays (IIRC, KBTV, ABC in Denver at
the time, ran all but one network show between 6:30 and 10 PM Mon-Fri;
"The Invaders," IIRC, was the only show Ch. 9 delayed past 10 PM).

 

[oldiesfan6479]

I know that KTVK's "16mm film prime time" was also fed to KGUN-TV Tucson,
going back to at least the early 1960s.

Several years ago, someone posted that at one time, KTVK also had microwave
links to also feed the Albuquerque and El Paso affiliates. I don't know if this was
in place in the mid-1960s, but it was by the early 1970s--by that time KTVK had
sufficient VTR capability to run prime time on an hour tape delay. They really had
to hustle in the summer where they fed the (prime time) shows an hour later to
ABQ and ELP, then repeated playback an hour after that (two-hour delay) for the
AZ stations.

 

[Ultimajock]

...I thought the KTVK microwave feed to KOAT and KELP was only in effect when Arizona and New Mexico were both on Mountain Standard Time, while the feed to KGUN was continuous. When New Mexico was on Mountain Daylight Time, which Arizona would not be, KTVK just picked up the West Coast feed from Hollywood...

 

[FreddyE1977]

KOOL-TV 10 CBS Phoenix (now KSAZ-TV Fox)

having the call letters KOOL in Phoenix never did make any sense to me anyhow

 

[KeithE4]

KOOL-TV 10 CBS Phoenix (now KSAZ-TV Fox)

having the call letters KOOL in Phoenix never did make any sense to me anyhow

Because Phoenix is a KOOL city, while Tucson is just a wee bit KOLDer than Phoenix. ;D

 

[landtuna]

I've posted this before but back in the good old days the switchboard operators at the two CBS affiliates answered their phones they said:

"It's (KOOL) in Phoenix."

...and

"It's (KOLD) in Tucson."

In Tucson's case the call wasn't about competition with Phoenix over the average temperature but rather the 'OLD' in KOLD represented a reference to Tucson's city nickname - "The Old Pueblo". The original call for channel 13 in Tucson was KOPO and shared that call with a local AM radio station.

 

[oldiesfan6479]

...I thought the KTVK microwave feed to KOAT and KELP was only in effect when Arizona and
New Mexico were both on Mountain Standard Time, while the feed to KGUN was continuous.
When New Mexico was on Mountain Daylight Time, which Arizona would not be, KTVK just
picked up the West Coast feed from Hollywood...

In the 1970s, KTVK always had a 10 PM news, which followed prime time 7-10.
So it was a delay of the east coast feed.

The left coast feed would have come in 8-11 in the summer--too late.