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Retro: Pittsburgh, Thursday, Dec. 10, 1964

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(Source: Valley Independent, Monessen, Pa.)

KDKA-TV 2 (CBS)
AM
6 Sunrise Semester
6:20 Space Age
7 Daybreak
8:15 Captain Kangaroo
9 Sterling Yates
9:30 Password
10 Love Of Life
10:30 I Love Lucy
11 Andy of Mayberry
11:30 The McCoys
PM
12 News
12:30 Search for Tomorrow
12:45 Guiding Light
1 Mike Douglas
2:30 House Party
3 To Tell The Truth
3:30 Edge of Night
4 Secret Storm
4:30 As The World Turns
5 Early Show
6:30 CBS News
7 World Tonight (local news)
7:30 The Munsters
8 Perry Mason
9 Password
9:30 Baileys of Balboa
10 The Defenders
11 News
11:15 Regis Philbin
12:45AM Gateway Studio
2:20 Sermonette

WTAE-TV 4 (ABC)
AM
7:30 Buffalo Bill
8 Romper Room
8:45 Ricki & Copper
9:30 Ann Sothern
10 Jean Connelly
10:30 Price Is Right
11 Get The Message
11:30 Missing Links
PM
12 Newsday
12:15 Hello, Pea Pickers
1 Movie
2:30 Day In Court
3 General Hospital
3:30 Young Marrieds
4 Popeye n’ Knish (which I’ve also seen referred as “Rodney and Knish”)
5 Adventure Time (children’s show with Paul Shannon)
6:15 ABC News
6:30 Sea Hunt
7 News
7:30 The Flintstones
8 Donna Reed
8:30 My Three Sons
9 Bewitched
9:30 Peyton Place
10 Jimmy Dean
11 News
11:15 Movie

WIIC 11 (NBC)
AM
7 Today
9 Kay Calls
10 Make Room For Daddy
10:30 What’s This Song
11 Concentration
11:30 Jeopardy
PM
12 Say When
12:30 Truth or Consequences
1 Spotlight 11
1:30 Let’s Make A Deal
2 Loretta Young
2:30 The Doctors
3 Another World
3:30 You Don’t Say
4 Match Game
4:30 Big Show
6 News
6:30 Huntley-Brinkley Report
7 Yogi Bear
7:30 Daniel Boone
8:30 Danny Thomas
9:30 Hazel
10 Suspense Theatre
11 News
11:15 Tonight Show
1AM Changing Times
1:15 Devotionals

WQED-TV 13 (NET)
AM
8:40 Sign-On
8:55 French
9:10 At Issue
9:40 Franklin to Frost
10:15 Science 5
10:40 Reading
11:05 Our Language
11:30 Kindergarten
PM
12 Social Security
12:15 Tri-State Farmer
12:30 Electronics
1:05 Reading
1:30 Talking Town
2 Tell Me A Story
2:15 Science 5
2:40 French
3 Type-Right
3:30 The Red Myth
4 Physical Education
4:15 Fun To Reduce
4:30 Kindergarten
5 Friendly Giant
5:15 What’s New
5:45 World Traveler
6 Irish Diary
6:30 Electronics
7 College Bound
7:30 Bridge
8 Jazz Casual
8:30 Probe
9 Open End
10:45 Weekly Report
11 Signoff
 
> (Source: Valley Independent, Monessen, Pa.)
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> WTAE-TV 4 (ABC)
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> PM
> 12 Newsday
> 12:15 Hello, Pea Pickers

Hello, Peapickers (Tennessee Ernie Ford's show) aired
on ABC 12:30-1, following reruns of Father Knows Best.
It would seem that Channel 4 had something else at 12:15.

> 1 Movie
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> > WTAE-TV 4 (ABC)

> > PM
> > 12 Newsday
> > 12:15 Hello, Pea Pickers

> Hello, Peapickers (Tennessee Ernie Ford's show) aired
> on ABC 12:30-1, following reruns of Father Knows Best.
> It would seem that Channel 4 had something else at 12:15.

It's a good thing I collect TV Guides.

Actually this should be what ABC Daytime had in December 1964(*-Preempted by WTAE):

10:30 The Price Is Right
11AM Get The Message
11:30 Missing Links
12Noon Donna Reed*
12:30 Hello, Peapickers
1PM Local
1:30 Major Adams, Trailmaster*
2PM Father Knows Best*
2:30 Day In Court
2:55 ABC Midday Report
3PM General Hospital
3:30 The Young Marrieds

By December 28, 1964 this lineup would be altered to look like this:

11:30 The Price Is Right
12Noon Donna Reed
12:30 Father Knows Best
1PM Hello, Peapickers
1:30 Major Adams, Trailmaster
2PM A Flame In The Wind(Short-lived serial)
2:30 Day In Court
2:55 ABC Midday Report
3PM General Hospital
3:30 The Young Marrieds
 
> 1PM Local
> 1:30 Major Adams, Trailmaster*
> 2PM Father Knows Best*
>
> 1PM Hello, Peapickers
> 1:30 Major Adams, Trailmaster
> 2PM A Flame In The Wind(Short-lived serial)

Re the Trailmaster listings--
A half-hour rerun of a one-hour show (Wagon Train)?
 
> (Source: Valley Independent, Monessen, Pa.)
>
> KDKA-TV 2 (CBS)

1 Mike Douglas
Douglas I think was airing on Westinghouse Sister Station KYW-3 Cleveland at either 12:30 or 1PM


> > 5 Early Show

KYW also had ther "Early Show" at 5PM

>> 11:15 Regis Philbin

KYW had this rather than "Tonight"

> 12:45AM Gateway Studio
Likely the name of a late movie package


>
 
> Re the Trailmaster listings--
> A half-hour rerun of a one-hour show (Wagon Train)?

Bingo!
 
> > 1PM Local
> > 1:30 Major Adams, Trailmaster*
> > 2PM Father Knows Best*
> >
> > 1PM Hello, Peapickers
> > 1:30 Major Adams, Trailmaster
> > 2PM A Flame In The Wind(Short-lived serial)
>
> Re the Trailmaster listings--
> A half-hour rerun of a one-hour show (Wagon Train)?

According to the Shapiro book, Major Adams was a one-hour slot, 4:00-5:00pm ET, from September 1963 until September 1965.

In December 1964, the Shapiro book lists the ABC daytime lineup as:
11:00 The Price Is Right
11:30 Seven Keys
12:00 Tennessee Ernie Ford
12:30 Father Knows Best
1:00 General Hospital
1:30 Film
2:30 Day In Court
3:00 Queen For A Day
3:30 Who Do You Trust
4:00 Major Adams

In December 1965:
11:00 Supermarket Sweep
11:30 The Dating Game
12:00 Donna Reed Show
12:30 Father Knows Best
1:00 Ben Casey
2:00 The Nurses
2:30 Flame In The Wind
3:00 General Hospital
3:30 The Young Marrieds
4:00 Never Too Young
4:30 Where The Action Is

There were no "local" slots. It doesn't appear to me that Pittsburgh was running "in-pattern" ...<P ID="signature">______________


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> There were no "local" slots. It doesn't appear to me that
> Pittsburgh was running "in-pattern" ...

Actually, some of the ABC affils were running "Major Adams" at different timeslots instead of the 4-5pm/3-4pm hour or in the case of WTAE didn't want to carry it altogether, which BTW was mentioned in previous posts.

Plus WTAE has always had a history of pre-empting ABC shows, and since "Popeye n' Knish" and "[Paul Shannon's] Adventure Time" were favorites with viewers in the afternoon at the time, why bother with a rerun of a western.
 
The Mid-1960's Comeback Of ABC Daytime (Was: Re: Retro: Pittsburgh, Thursday, Dec. 10, 1964)

Wasn't the "Film" listed for 1:30 P.M. ET on ABC's December, 1964 daytime schedule actually reruns of "Jane Wyman Presents"??

It's also interesting to note that with the exception of ths soap "General Hospital" and reruns of "Father Knows Best", ABC had completely changed their daytime schedule during 1965 because the network's daytime ratings, with the exceptions of these two forementioned shows, had become disasterously low.

"Where The Action Is" (premiered in June of 1965) was originally intended as a short-run show for the Summer at 2 P.M. EDT, but it's success prompted ABC to keep it on in the Fall (it would last until early 1967), but moving it to 4:30 P.M. ET, where it's young viewers could catch it after school.

In December of 1965, "Supermarket Sweep" and "Dating Game" premiered. While the former would only be on for a year-and-a-half (but successfully revived decades later), "Dating Game" would become a long-term hit. ABC Daytime's comeback was underway.

In 1966, two more pieces to that comeback fell into place, "The Newlywed Game" (which ran for eight and a half years) and the Gothic-themed soap "Dark Shawdows" (which I believe had become the most popular daytime program on network television by 1968) made their debuts. Both became hits, and ABC's daytime ratings were no longer a deep, deep third.
 
Re: The Mid-1960's Comeback Of ABC Daytime (Was: Re: Retro: Pittsburgh, Thursday, Dec. 10, 1964)

> Wasn't the "Film" listed for 1:30 P.M. ET on ABC's December,
> 1964 daytime schedule actually reruns of "Jane Wyman
> Presents"??

The Shapiro book just says "Film". It does list that ABC had reruns of "Jane Wyman Presents" in the 2:00-2:30 slot starting in January 1962, then moving to the 12:00-12:30 slot from July to November 1962, at which point it traded places with Tennessee Ernie Ford, moving to 11:00.

"JWP" moved one more time, to 10:00am, in March 1963 and left the schedule in September of that year. So I think you're wrong on that one, Joseph.<P ID="signature">______________


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Re: The Mid-1960's Comeback Of ABC Daytime (Was: Re: Retro: Pittsburgh, Thursday, Dec. 10, 1964)

> Wasn't the "Film" listed for 1:30 P.M. ET on ABC's December,
> 1964 daytime schedule actually reruns of "Jane Wyman
> Presents"??
>
> It's also interesting to note that with the exception of ths
> soap "General Hospital" and reruns of "Father Knows Best",
> ABC had completely changed their daytime schedule during
> 1965 because the network's daytime ratings, with the
> exceptions of these two forementioned shows, had become
> disasterously low.
>
> "Where The Action Is" (premiered in June of 1965) was
> originally intended as a short-run show for the Summer at 2
> P.M. EDT, but it's success prompted ABC to keep it on in the
> Fall (it would last until early 1967), but moving it to 4:30
> P.M. ET, where it's young viewers could catch it after
> school.
>
> In December of 1965, "Supermarket Sweep" and "Dating Game"
> premiered. While the former would only be on for a
> year-and-a-half (but successfully revived decades later),
> "Dating Game" would become a long-term hit. ABC Daytime's
> comeback was underway.
>
> In 1966, two more pieces to that comeback fell into place,
> "The Newlywed Game" (which ran for eight and a half years)
> and the Gothic-themed soap "Dark Shawdows" (which I believe
> had become the most popular daytime program on network
> television by 1968) made their debuts. Both became hits, and
> ABC's daytime ratings were no longer a deep, deep third.
>
A couple of points. Flame In The Wind changed its name to A
Time For Us by the end of 1965 and ran until December 1966.
It was replaced by Dream Girl Of '67.

A couple of major turning points for ABC in 1968 got the network
out of third place. One Life To Live debuted in July and overcame
some initial affiliate resistance to its multi-ethnic storylines.
But the clincher was the acquisition of Let's Make A Deal from
NBC in December. With that one program removed from the NBC
schedule, the Peacock network fell into third for more than a year.
Deal/Newlywed Game/Dating Game continued to be a strong troika for
ABC until 1973.
 
> > > 1PM Local
> > > 1:30 Major Adams, Trailmaster*
> > > 2PM Father Knows Best*
> > >
> > > 1PM Hello, Peapickers
> > > 1:30 Major Adams, Trailmaster
> > > 2PM A Flame In The Wind(Short-lived serial)
> >
> > Re the Trailmaster listings--
> > A half-hour rerun of a one-hour show (Wagon Train)?
>
> According to the Shapiro book, Major Adams was a one-hour
> slot, 4:00-5:00pm ET, from September 1963 until September
> 1965.
>
> In December 1964, the Shapiro book lists the ABC daytime
> lineup as:
> 11:00 The Price Is Right
> 11:30 Seven Keys
> 12:00 Tennessee Ernie Ford
> 12:30 Father Knows Best
> 1:00 General Hospital
> 1:30 Film
> 2:30 Day In Court
> 3:00 Queen For A Day
> 3:30 Who Do You Trust
> 4:00 Major Adams

Are you sure the Shapiro book is right? According to
Castleman and Podrazik's The TV Schedule Book, this would
have been ABC's lineup in December 1963! Hyatt shows
General Hospital moving from 1 PM to 3 on December 30, 1963,
and having been on at either 3 or 3:15 ever since. Personally,
I don't trust the Shapiro book.
>
>
 
> Personally,
> I don't trust the Shapiro book.

I would have thought it was more accurate, given the range of source material Shapiro cites in the introduction, but I will defer to the Castleman and Podrazik book.<P ID="signature">______________


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