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Retro: Showtime, July 1984

K

KMRichards

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As a comparison to my HBO schedule post, here is Showtime's programming for the same week.

Note that there is one movie which was on <u>both</u> channels that week, and also the premiere episode of what was something of a groundbreaking comedy on Friday night of this week.

Source: TV Guide

Saturday, July 7, 1984
5:30 am Movie: Time Walker
7:00 Movie: Snoopy, Come Home
8:30 Movie: The Wild Man of Borneo
10:00 Movie: The Real Glory
12:00pm Movie: My Favorite Year
1:30 Movie: Snoopy, Come Home
3:00 Movie: The Sign of Four
5:00 Movie: Octopussy
7:30 Montreaux International Rock Festival
9:00 Movie: National Lampoon's Animal House
11:00 Bizarre
11:30 Movie: Curtains
1:05am Movie: Octopussy
3:20 Movie: My Favorite Year
4:55 Movie: The Real Glory

Sunday, July 8, 1984
6:30am Movie: Animalympics
8:00 Movie: The Mango Tree
9:30 Movie: Jaws 3
11:30 Movie: Swamp Thing
1:00pm Movie: Saddle the Wind
2:30 Shaft of Love
4:05 Movie: Going in Style
6:00 Movie: The Mango Tree
7:30 Movie: Swamp Thing
9:00 Movie: Jaws 3
11:00 Movie: Going in Style
12:40am Movie: Fast Times at Ridgemont High
2:15 Movie: Squeeze Play
4:00 Shaft of Love

Monday, July 9, 1984
6:00am Movie: Hound of the Baskervilles
7:30 Fifth of July
10:00 Movie: The Reluctant Debutante
12:00pm Movie: Stroker Ace
2:00 Movie: Huckleberry Finn
4:00 Thunderbirds 2086
5:30 Fifth of July
8:00 Movie: Stroker Ace
10:00 Movie: Smokey and the Bandit, Part 3
11:30 Movie: Summer Camp
1:00am Frankenstein
2:30 Movie: X-Ray
4:15 Movie: Huckleberry Finn

Tuesday, July 10, 1984
6:30am Movie: The Toy
8:30 Lone Star Bar & Grill
10:00 Movie: I Love Melvin
12:00pm Movie: A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy
1:30 Movie: The Toy
3:30 Far-Out Fourth
4:00 Movie: Marco Polo Junior
5:30 African Adventure
6:30 Movie: A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy
8:00 Paper Chase
9:00 Movie: Young Doctors in Love
11:00 Montreaux International Rock Festival
12:30am Movie: The Last American Virgin
2:05 Movie: Angel of H.E.A.T.
3:45 Movie: Young Doctors in Love

Wednesday, July 11, 1984
5:30am Movie: Marco Polo Junior
7:00 Jamboree in the Hills II
8:30 Lone Star Bar & Grill
10:00 Movie: The Real Glory
12:00pm Movie: Time Walker
1:30 Movie: My Favorite Year
3:00 Jamboree in the Hills II
5:00 Movie: Snoopy, Come Home
6:30 Lone Star Bar & Grill
8:00 Movie: My Favorite Year
10:00 Movie: Goin' All the Way
11:30 Movie: Blade Runner
1:30am Movie: Curtains
3:05 Movie: Time Walker
4:45 Bizarre

Thursday, July 12, 1984
5:30am Movie: Snoopy, Come Home
7:00 Movie: The Sign of Four
9:00 Paper Chase
10:00 Movie: The Horizontal Lieutenant
12:00pm Movie: Smokey and the Bandit, Part 3
1:30 Movie: Octopussy
4:00 Professor Wagstaff's Time Machine
5:00 Movie: The Mango Tree
6:30 Paper Chase
7:30 Movie: Smokey and the Bandit, Part 3
9:00 Movie: Octopussy
11:30 Movie: The Road Warrior
1:10am Movie: Squeeze Play
2:50 Movie: The Sign of Four
4:30 Movie: The Mango Tree

Friday, July 13, 1984
6:00am Professor Wagstaff's Time Machine
7:00 Far-Out Fourth
7:30 Movie: David Copperfield
9:00 African Adventure
10:00 Movie: Soldiers Three
12:00pm Movie: Swamp Thing
1:30 Shaft of Love
3:30 Far-Out Fourth
4:00 African Adventure
5:00 Movie: David Copperfield
6:30 Movie: Swamp Thing
8:00 Best of the Big Laff Off
10:00 Brothers
10:30 Bizarre
11:00 Pat Collins' 20th Anniversary
12:00am Movie: National Lampoon's Animal House
1:55 Movie: Humongous
3:30 Gallagher
4:30 Best of the Big Laff Off<P ID="signature">______________


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HBO vs. Showtime

> As a comparison to my HBO schedule post, here is Showtime's
> programming for the same week.
>
> Note that there is one movie which was on both channels that
> week, and also the premiere episode of what was something of
> a groundbreaking comedy on Friday night of this week.
>
> Source: TV Guide
>
> Saturday, July 7, 1984
> 5:30 am Movie: Time Walker
> 7:00 Movie: Snoopy, Come Home
> 8:30 Movie: The Wild Man of Borneo
> 10:00 Movie: The Real Glory
> 12:00pm Movie: My Favorite Year
> 1:30 Movie: Snoopy, Come Home
> 3:00 Movie: The Sign of Four
> 5:00 Movie: Octopussy
> 7:30 Montreaux International Rock Festival
> 9:00 Movie: National Lampoon's Animal House
> 11:00 Bizarre
> 11:30 Movie: Curtains
> 1:05am Movie: Octopussy
> 3:20 Movie: My Favorite Year
> 4:55 Movie: The Real Glory
>
> Sunday, July 8, 1984
> 6:30am Movie: Animalympics
> 8:00 Movie: The Mango Tree
> 9:30 Movie: Jaws 3
> 11:30 Movie: Swamp Thing
> 1:00pm Movie: Saddle the Wind
> 2:30 Shaft of Love
> 4:05 Movie: Going in Style
> 6:00 Movie: The Mango Tree
> 7:30 Movie: Swamp Thing
> 9:00 Movie: Jaws 3
> 11:00 Movie: Going in Style
> 12:40am Movie: Fast Times at Ridgemont High
> 2:15 Movie: Squeeze Play
> 4:00 Shaft of Love
>
> Monday, July 9, 1984
> 6:00am Movie: Hound of the Baskervilles
> 7:30 Fifth of July
> 10:00 Movie: The Reluctant Debutante
> 12:00pm Movie: Stroker Ace
> 2:00 Movie: Huckleberry Finn
> 4:00 Thunderbirds 2086
> 5:30 Fifth of July
> 8:00 Movie: Stroker Ace
> 10:00 Movie: Smokey and the Bandit, Part 3
> 11:30 Movie: Summer Camp
> 1:00am Frankenstein
> 2:30 Movie: X-Ray
> 4:15 Movie: Huckleberry Finn
>
> Tuesday, July 10, 1984
> 6:30am Movie: The Toy
> 8:30 Lone Star Bar & Grill
> 10:00 Movie: I Love Melvin
> 12:00pm Movie: A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy
> 1:30 Movie: The Toy
> 3:30 Far-Out Fourth
> 4:00 Movie: Marco Polo Junior
> 5:30 African Adventure
> 6:30 Movie: A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy
> 8:00 Paper Chase
> 9:00 Movie: Young Doctors in Love
> 11:00 Montreaux International Rock Festival
> 12:30am Movie: The Last American Virgin
> 2:05 Movie: Angel of H.E.A.T.
> 3:45 Movie: Young Doctors in Love
>
> Wednesday, July 11, 1984
> 5:30am Movie: Marco Polo Junior
> 7:00 Jamboree in the Hills II
> 8:30 Lone Star Bar & Grill
> 10:00 Movie: The Real Glory
> 12:00pm Movie: Time Walker
> 1:30 Movie: My Favorite Year
> 3:00 Jamboree in the Hills II
> 5:00 Movie: Snoopy, Come Home
> 6:30 Lone Star Bar & Grill
> 8:00 Movie: My Favorite Year
> 10:00 Movie: Goin' All the Way
> 11:30 Movie: Blade Runner
> 1:30am Movie: Curtains
> 3:05 Movie: Time Walker
> 4:45 Bizarre
>
> Thursday, July 12, 1984
> 5:30am Movie: Snoopy, Come Home
> 7:00 Movie: The Sign of Four
> 9:00 Paper Chase
> 10:00 Movie: The Horizontal Lieutenant
> 12:00pm Movie: Smokey and the Bandit, Part 3
> 1:30 Movie: Octopussy
> 4:00 Professor Wagstaff's Time Machine
> 5:00 Movie: The Mango Tree
> 6:30 Paper Chase
> 7:30 Movie: Smokey and the Bandit, Part 3
> 9:00 Movie: Octopussy
> 11:30 Movie: The Road Warrior
> 1:10am Movie: Squeeze Play
> 2:50 Movie: The Sign of Four
> 4:30 Movie: The Mango Tree
>
> Friday, July 13, 1984
> 6:00am Professor Wagstaff's Time Machine
> 7:00 Far-Out Fourth
> 7:30 Movie: David Copperfield
> 9:00 African Adventure
> 10:00 Movie: Soldiers Three
> 12:00pm Movie: Swamp Thing
> 1:30 Shaft of Love
> 3:30 Far-Out Fourth
> 4:00 African Adventure
> 5:00 Movie: David Copperfield
> 6:30 Movie: Swamp Thing
> 8:00 Best of the Big Laff Off
> 10:00 Brothers
> 10:30 Bizarre
> 11:00 Pat Collins' 20th Anniversary
> 12:00am Movie: National Lampoon's Animal House
> 1:55 Movie: Humongous
> 3:30 Gallagher
> 4:30 Best of the Big Laff Off
>

This schedule came out during one of the most biggest ( well at that time it was ) feuds in cable television. The feud between HBO & Showtime.

Its funny now considering that both HBO and Showtime have since cut back on Hollywood feature films in favor of original programs but does anybody remember back in 1984 the so-called "movie war" between HBO and Showtime? Prior to 1983 I Believe most if not all movies appeared on both HBO and Showtime but sometime in 83,HBO made some deal with Columbia Pictures I believe to create HBOnly as in movies that were to be shown on HBO and HBO only. The Henry Fonda flick On Golden Pond was one such movie.

Showtime then quite quickly made some huge deal with Parmount and in return Paramount's films were seen only on Showtime and The Movie Channel. Showtime had the upperhand here as Paramount was in the mid 80's had some of the most popular films such as Flashdance and Trading Places. When Showtime aired Flashdance, HBO received so many complaints from viewers for not showing it that they had Dick Cavett go on the air and actually explain to viewers that the reason Flashdance wasn't coming to HBO was due to the Paramount/Showtime deal.

I think this movie war between HBO and Showtime more/less lasted througout the end of the 80s and into the 90s.
 
Re: HBO vs. Showtime

> This schedule came out during one of the most biggest ( well
> at that time it was ) feuds in cable television. The feud
> between HBO & Showtime.
>
> Its funny now considering that both HBO and Showtime have
> since cut back on Hollywood feature films in favor of
> original programs but does anybody remember back in 1984 the
> so-called "movie war" between HBO and Showtime? Prior to
> 1983 I Believe most if not all movies appeared on both HBO
> and Showtime but sometime in 83,HBO made some deal with
> Columbia Pictures I believe to create HBOnly as in movies
> that were to be shown on HBO and HBO only. The Henry Fonda
> flick On Golden Pond was one such movie.
>
> Showtime then quite quickly made some huge deal with
> Parmount and in return Paramount's films were seen only on
> Showtime and The Movie Channel. Showtime had the upperhand
> here as Paramount was in the mid 80's had some of the most
> popular films such as Flashdance and Trading Places. When
> Showtime aired Flashdance, HBO received so many complaints
> from viewers for not showing it that they had Dick Cavett go
> on the air and actually explain to viewers that the reason
> Flashdance wasn't coming to HBO was due to the
> Paramount/Showtime deal.
>
> I think this movie war between HBO and Showtime more/less
> lasted througout the end of the 80s and into the 90s.

I think the HBO/Showtime feud peaked around 1988, when Showtime started placing ads on other cable networks showing two "animated" TV's (one with Showtime, the other with HBO and static, if I recall correctly) about their exclusive programming which couldn't be seen on HBO. Their tagline was something along the lines of "Showtime does, HBO doesn't."

By the late '80s, HBO became the preferred network for Paramount, Warner Bros. (before HBO parent Time merged with Warner Communications), and 20th Century Fox. Showtime was the preferred home of Universal and exclusive home of Disney's "adult" studios (Touchstone/Hollywood) on pay TV.

HBO and Showtime made a truce in 1992 or '93, in which the two networks stopped marketing as competitors, but as complementing pay services. When Starz was formed, they outbid HBO and Showtime for the Touchstone/Hollywood and New Line libraries, touted itself as "all movies, all the time," which led both HBO and Showtime to produce more original series instead of focusing on movies. HBO still had exclusive rights to Warner Bros., 20th Century Fox, and Dreamworks features, while Paramount moved its films from HBO to Showtime after the studio was purchased by Viacom.
 
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