Retro: Southern California Wed, Dec 9, 1959

[Bluenoser]

from TV Guide-Southern California edition

KNXT 2-CBS Los Angeles
6:40 Give Us This Day
6:45 Farm Reports/News
7:00 Captain Kangaroo
7:45 CBS News
8:00 Our Miss Brooks
8:30 Amos 'n' Andy
9:00 Red Rowe
9:30 On the Go
10:00 I Love Lucy
10:30 December Bride
11:00 Love of Life
11:30 Search for Tomorrow
11:45 Guiding Light
noon CBS News
12:05 Noon Show "The Woman in Question"
1:30 As the World Turns
2:00 For Better or Worse
2:30 House Party
3:00 Millionaire
3:30 Verdict is Yours "The People vs Fratelli and Ronnell"
4:00 Brighter Day
4:15 Secret Storm
4:30 Edge of Night
5:00 Burns & Allen
5:30 Early Show "The Inspector General"
6:55 Weather
7:00 Seven O'Clock Report
7:15 CBS News
7:30 Lineup
8:30 Men Into Space
9:00 Millionaire "Millionaire Andrew C. Cooley"
9:30 I've Got a Secret (Douglas Fairbanks Jr. has a secret for panellists Bill Cullen, Betsy Palmer, Bess Myerson and Henry Morgan)
10:00 Armstrong Circle Theater "Operation Moonshine"
11:00 Eleven O'Clock Report
11:15 Late Show "Wyoming Kid"
1:00 Film Drama
1:30 News
1:35 Give Us This Day

KEYT 3-NBC/ABC/CBS Santa Barbara
5:55 News
6:00 Continental Classroom "Physics", followed by "Chemistry" in color at 6:30
7:00 Today (guests include Peter Palmer, who played the title role in stage and screen versions of L'il Abner)
9:00 Dough Re Mi
9:30 Play Your Hunch
10:00 Price is Right
10:30 Concentration
11:00 Truth or Consequences
11:30 It Could Be You (c)
noon Queen for a Day
12:30 Margo Cobey
1:00 Young Dr. Malone
1:30 From These Roots
2:00 House on High Street
2:30 Split Personality
3:00 Beat the Clock
3:30 Who Do You Trust?
4:00 American Bandstand
5:00 Pacific Bandstand
5:30 Dan Smoot
5:45 News
6:15 NBC News
6:30 Movie "Letter from an Unknown Woman" (LA saw this the previous Saturday on 13's midnight movie)
8:30 Price is Right (c/Bill Cullen unveils the Christmas Showcase)
9:00 US Marshal
9:30 How to Marry a Millionaire
10:00 TV Hour of Stars
11:00 Up to Paar
11:15 Jack Paar (Jack's in Hollywood, with Ed Reimers filling in for Hugh Downs)

KRCA 4-NBC Los Angeles
5:45 Morning Farm Report
6:00 Continental Classroom "Physics"/"Chemistry" (Chemistry in color)
7:00 Today
9:00 Dough Re Mi
9:30 Play Your Hunch
10:00 Price is Right
10:30 Concentration
11:00 Truth or Consequences
11:30 It Could Be You (c)
noon Queen for a Day
12:30 Thin Man "The Perfect Servant"
1:00 Young Dr. Malone
1:30 From These Roots
2:00 House on High Street
2:30 Split Personality
3:00 Frandsen's Feature "Argentine Nights"
4:40 Lee Giroux
6:00 News (c)
6:15 NBC News
6:30 Curt Massey (c)
6:45 News (c)
7:00 Four Just Men "The Crying Jester"
7:30 Once Upon a Christmas Time (c)
8:30 Price is Right (c)
9:00 Perry Como (c/guests Sandra Church, Tommy Sands, Allen & Rossi, and the Look All-America football team)
10:00 This is Your Life (Ralph's at Radio City Music Hall to honor wardrobe mistress Florence Anderson, with an appearance from the Rockettes and a tribute by Cary Grant, who met Florence when he was starting out in show biz)
10:30 Wichita Town "Out of the Past"
11:00 News (c)
11:15 Jack Paar
1:00 KRCA Playhouse
1:15 News

KTLA 5-Ind Los Angeles
8:30 Cartoons
9:00 Larry Finley (news at 10)
10:30 Ding Dong School
10:55 News
11:00 Romper Room
noon Uncle Luther
1:00 Dorothy Gardiner Show "Kings Row"
3:50 News
4:00 Cartoon Carousel
5:30 Popeye Cartoons
6:00 Bozo the Clown
6:30 News
6:45 News/Sports
7:00 Youth Court
7:30 Championship Wrestling
10:00 Beat the Genius
10:30 News/Sports
11:00 Mike Wallace (guest Maureen Stapleton)
11:30 Del Moore's Hangout

XETV 6-ABC San Diego
8:30 Spanish Programming
9:00 Cal Western University
10:30 Romper Room
11:00 Movie: TBA (Western)
noon Restless Gun "Gratitude"
12:30 Love That Bob!
1:00 Music Bingo
1:30 Film Drama
2:00 Day in Court
2:30 Gale Storm "Hayride Ahoy"
3:00 Beat the Clock
3:30 Who Do You Trust?
4:00 American Bandstand
5:00 Bozo the Clown
5:30 My Friend Flicka "The Little Secret"
6:00 Roy Rogers
6:30 News
7:00 Boxing: from the Cleveland Arena, it's a 10-round heavyweight bout between Sonny Liston (Philly/25-1, 15 KO) and Willi Besmanoff (Milwaukee/39-17-7, 14 KO)
7:45 ABC News
8:00 Charley Weaver
8:30 Ozzie & Harriet "Happy Anniversary"
9:00 Hawaiian Eye "Secret of the Second Door"
10:00 Black Saddle "Four from Stillwater"
10:30 Glencannon "Captain Snooty Off the Yacht"
11:00 Hannibal Cobb
11:05 Powerhouse Movie "Old Los Angeles" (in El Lay, 13 aired this the previous Sat 1pm)

KABC 7-ABC Los Angeles
8:55 Daily Word
9:00 Chef Milani
9:30 Mama
10:00 Chucko's Cartoons: birthday honorees are Jeffrey Leiberman (4/Pomona) and Collette Maley (5/Huntington Park)
11:00 I Married Joan
11:30 Navy Log
noon Restless Gun
12:30 Love That Bob!
1:00 Music Bingo
1:30 Ray Milland
2:00 Day in Court
2:30 Gale Storm "Hayride Ahoy"
3:00 Beat the Clock
3:30 Who Do You Trust?
4:00 American Bandstand
5:30 My Friend Flicka "The Little Secret"
6:00 News
6:15 ABC News
6:30 Men of Annapolis "Reflex Action"
7:00 Boxing: Liston v Besmanoff
7:45 ABC News
8:00 Charley Weaver
8:30 Ozzie & Harriet "Happy Anniversary"
9:00 Hawaiian Eye "Secret of the Second Door"
10:00 Not for Hire "Shark Bait"
10:30 Studio Seven "The Churchill Club"
11:00 News
11:15 Let's Dance
12:15 Nitecap Theater "A Wave, a Wac, and a Marine"

KFMB 8-CBS San Diego
6:50 This is My Faith
6:55 Farm Report
7:00 Captain Kangaroo
7:45 CBS News
8:00 Movie "Mutiny on the Blackhawk"
9:00 Red Rowe
9:30 On the Go
10:00 I Love Lucy
10:30 December Bride
11:00 Love of Life
11:30 Search for Tomorrow
11:45 Guiding Light
noon Early Show "Dangerous Journey"
1:30 As the World Turns
2:00 For Better or Worse
2:30 House Party
3:00 Millionaire
3:30 Verdict is Yours "The People vs Fratelli and Ronnell"
4:00 Brighter Day
4:15 Secret Storm
4:30 Edge of Night
5:00 Life of Riley
5:30 Burns & Allen
6:00 News
6:15 CBS News
6:30 Lineup (the same episode shown an hour later in LA)
7:30 This Day, 1959
8:00 To Tell the Truth
8:30 Men Into Space
9:00 Millionaire "Millionaire Andrew C. Cooley"
9:30 I've Got a Secret
10:00 Armstrong Circle Theater "Operation Moonshine"
11:00 News
11:30 Jack Paar
1:00 Daily Word

KHJ 9-Ind Los Angeles
10:30 Health & Happiness
11:00 Star Performance
11:30 Movie: TBA (Western)
12:45 Betty Yeakel Matinee "Boy Slaves"
2:30 Mr. & Mrs. North
3:00 Movie "Cockeyed Cavaliers"
5:05 John J. Anthony
5:30 Criswell Predicts
5:45 News
6:00 Cartoon Express
7:00 Little Rascals
7:30 Crusade in the Pacific
8:00 Charter Boat "Hot Rod-and Reel"
8:30 Open Road
9:00 Channel 9 Movie Theater "Sea Devil"
10:45 News
11:00 Movie "Old Cheyenne"
mid. Starlight Theater "Child of Divorce"

KFSD 10-NBC San Diego
6:00 Continental Classroom "Physics"/"Chemistry" (Chemistry in color)
7:00 Today on the Farm
7:30 Cartoons
8:00 Today
9:00 Dough Re Mi
9:30 Play Your Hunch
10:00 Price is Right
10:30 Concentration
11:00 Truth or Consequences
11:30 It Could Be You (c)
noon Queen for a Day
12:30 KFSD-TV Classroom "Relating to the Community" (Veleda Sickels with pt 9 of a parent education course)
1:00 Young Dr. Malone
1:30 From These Roots
2:00 House on High Street
2:30 Split Personality
3:00 Pantry Playhouse "Magic Fire"
4:45 Johnny Downs
5:20 Popeye Cartoons
6:00 Annie Oakley
6:30 News
6:45 NBC News
7:00 Shotgun Slade "Lady in the Piano"
7:30 Once Upon a Christmas Time (c)
8:30 Price is Right (c)
9:00 Perry Como (c)
10:00 This is Your Life
10:30 Wichita Town "Out of the Past"
11:00 News
11:05 Movie "Spoilers of the Forest"
12:45 News

KTTV 11-Ind Los Angeles
8:30 Ramar
9:00 Check It with Chambers
9:30 Jack LaLanne
10:00 Morning Movie "The Toy Wife"
noon Lunch Brigade (with Sheriff John)
1:00 Abbott & Costello
1:30 Dial 999
2:00 Paul Coates
2:30 I Led Three Lives
3:00 Steve Martin's Club
4:00 Frontier Doctor
4:30 TV Reader's Digest
5:05 Susie
5:35 People's Choice
6:10 Jim Bowie
6:45 News
7:00 Annie Oakley
7:30 Three Stooges "Out West"
8:00 Citizen Soldier "Private Lopez" (Pvt. Jose Lopez, who plays himself, overcomes prejudiced fellow soldiers to win the Congressional Medal of Honor for bravery)
8:30 Trackdown "The Pueblo Kid"
9:00 US Marshal "Wishing Well"
9:30 Bishop Sheen "The Three Intimacies of Love"
10:00 News
10:15 Paul Coates
10:45 Jerry Lester
11:45 News
mid. First Show "Mokey"

KCOP 13-Ind Los Angeles
10:30 News
11:00 Guideposts "Guidepost to Science"
11:30 Record Shop
12:30 Assignment Education "Challenge of Russian Education" (guests are LA County superintendent of schools Dr. C.C. Trillington and California Teachers Assn executive secretary Dr. Lionel De Silva)
1:00 Big Picture
1:30 Guideposts "Guidepost to History, Art and Music"
2:30 Movie "Cattle Queen"
4:00 Cartoonaroony
5:25 Robin Hood
5:55 Blueprint
6:15 Goodwin Knight
6:20 Cal Tinney
6:30 People's Court (Orrin B. Evans presides over the following cases: a bookstore owner sues a woman who bought a first edition for 52c; a senior sues a young man who sold her a lemon; and an apartment manager sues a tenant for back rent)
7:00 Expedition! "The Long Journey"
7:30 Wonders of the World
8:00 Powerhouse Movie "Claudia"
9:30 Skin-Diving
10:00 News
10:15 Sports
10:20 Cal Tinney
10:30 Tom Duggan

 

[bpatrick]

I notice that CBS (Chs. 2, 8) used the Eastern time
version of daytime; when did CBS switch to the
Central time version for the West Coast?

 

[gregg75]

NICE to see something from the west coast for a change. We don't see many posts
of that area. WOW......Los Angeles had a lot of independent stations in 1959. It looks
as if each was trying to find their own niche.

 

[wbhist]

Prior to 1961, New York City also had four commercial indies . . . one fell by the wayside near year's end when that station, WNTA Channel 13 (COL Newark, NJ), was purchased by an educational concern that transformed it into non-commercial WNDT (now WNET).

But a few points and questions . . .
- Criswell Predicts on KHJ at 5:30-5:45 P.M.: This, of course, was the same Criswell who was featured in several Ed Wood productions, the most famous (or infamous) being Plan 9 from Outer Space which came and went earlier in '59.
- At what point did KHJ follow its RKO General sister stations (chief among them WOR-TV New York) in naming its evening movie showcase Million Dollar Movie?
- As for People's Court on KCOP at 6:30: Was this in any way an ancestor of the long-running syndicated show of the same title that in the 1980's made a household name of Judge Joseph Wapner, and is today presided over by Judge Marilyn Milian?
- The Mike Wallace Interview which aired at this point on KTLA at 11 P.M., was the syndicated version from NTA that originated out of WNTA.
- KRCA's stable of announcers at this point would have included Don Stanley, Donald Rickles, Eddie King, Frank Barton, and Arch Presby; plus (presumably) such other names as John Storm, Vincent Pelletier and Hal Gibney. Certainly the first five, maybe one or more of the other three, were the rotating announcers in the early years of NBC's movie showcases (the leading one being Saturday Night at the Movies) starting in 1961.
- Frandsen's Feature, I.I.N.M., lasted in that form until 1966 - after which host Tom Frandsen got his own half-hour series, Tom Frandsen F.Y.I. (expanded to an hour around 1967), and what was by then KNBC's movie series was reconstituted as a hostless Movie 4 (a title already in use by WNBC-TV New York and WRC-TV Washington, DC). All were thrown by the wayside in 1968 when the station launched its two-hour KNBC News Service (a.k.a. Newservice), and picked up Mike Douglas' daily yakker.

 

[RicoGregg]

WOW......Los Angeles had a lot of independent stations in 1959. It looks
as if each was trying to find their own niche.

I remember watching much of the listings back in that day. In 1959, local TV seemed a lot more "colorful" if you will, and personal. It was like someone you could somehow relate to.

Nowadays, even with cable and subchannels, TV seems so homogenized and gentrified by comparison.

If you did any traveling in those days, each market seemed to have it's own local way of doing things. Now, it all seems to come out of the same pencil sharpener.

 

[LKellerIII]

NICE to see something from the west coast for a change. We don't see many posts
of that area. WOW......Los Angeles had a lot of independent stations in 1959. It looks
as if each was trying to find their own niche.

Yes - LA had 4 indys from the early 50s forward. I was a little young to remember TV in 1959, but by the early and mid 60s, the 4 stations had staked out their onw niches, as you say.

KTLA (5) was heavily into local sports, both legitimate and "dramatized" - boxing, wrestling, and roller derby on week nights - the demolition derby ran Saturday afternoons.

KHJ-TV(9) was the movie station - running theatrical films more than any other station.

KTTV (11) was into talk shows - Merv Griffin, Joe Pyne, Louis Lomax, Mort Sahl.

KCOP (13) was usually a mess - but filled up programming with travelogues and grade B movies.

KTLA and KTTV developed good news departments, the other two didn't even try. And all 4 stations had local kid-show hosts in the afternoons with cartoons.

 

[oldiesfan6479]

I notice that CBS [Chs. 2, 8] used the Eastern time version of daytime; when did CBS switch
to the Central time version for the West Coast?

It's a combination of both: mornings (9 AM-noon) is Central clock time, then instead of a
half-hour local hole, it's 90 minutes, followed by shows on Eastern clock time 1:30-5 PM.

 

[Corky Marlowe]

KRCA 4-NBC Los Angeles
6:30 Curt Massey (c)

I believe this is the fellow who sang the "Beverly Hillbillies" theme song (played, of course, by Flatt & Scruggs). From what I understand, he was on local radio and TV in LA for many years.

 

[oldiesfan6479]

KRCA 4-NBC Los Angeles
6:30 Curt Massey (c)

I believe this is the fellow who sang the "Beverly Hillbillies" theme song (played, of course, by
Flatt & Scruggs). From what I understand, he was on local radio and TV in LA for many years.

Jerry Scoggins sang the theme on Hilbillies, however on the Petticoat Junction
credits you'd see:

Music
Curt Massey

 

[bpatrick]

I notice that CBS [Chs. 2, 8] used the Eastern time version of daytime; when did CBS switch
to the Central time version for the West Coast?

It's a combination of both: mornings (9 AM-noon) is Central clock time, then instead of a
half-hour local hole, it's 90 minutes, followed by shows on Eastern clock time 1:30-5 PM.

Right, but when did CBS's Pacific stations go to a half-hour local hole (12-12:30) and
put the afternoon block on a Central clock time schedule? Seems they did so before
JFK's assassination.

 

[hipman2]

Thanks for posting this lineup from my area. Helped me fill in some gaps in my Network Daytime TV history. I guess ABC didn't program the 1:30pm ET hour, which is why channels 6 and 7 had what looked like syndicated shows.

 

[bpatrick]

ABC didn't program 1:30 until, IIRC, it began rerunning
"Ben Casey" from 1 to 2 in the mid-'60s. In fact, the
day JFK was killed, WABC was in the middle of a rerun
of "The Ann Sothern Show" (the second one, where she
played Katy O'Connor) when the news came down.

On the East Coast, NBC didn't program 1:30 either until
sometime in 1964, when it moved "Let's Make A Deal" from
2 PM.

Since for years, CBS had the only network show at that
time ("As The World Turns") it helps explain how CBS got
on the air (on television) first with the news from Dallas.

 

[hipman2]

I have "The Texan" airing on ABC at 1:30pm ET beginning October 3, 1960.
Also on that date, ABC had "local programming" at 12:30 and 2:30pm.

I had NBC programming "The Thin Man" at 1:30pm ET from 9/7/59 through 2/12/60
Then back to "local programming" until "Make Room For Daddy" on 10/10/60.

ABC didn't program 1:30 until, IIRC, it began rerunning
"Ben Casey" from 1 to 2 in the mid-'60s. In fact, the
day JFK was killed, WABC was in the middle of a rerun
of "The Ann Sothern Show" (the second one, where she
played Katy O'Connor) when the news came down.

On the East Coast, NBC didn't program 1:30 either until
sometime in 1964, when it moved "Let's Make A Deal" from
2 PM.

Since for years, CBS had the only network show at that
time ("As The World Turns") it helps explain how CBS got
on the air (on television) first with the news from Dallas.

 

[bpatrick]

Castleman and Podrazik, in "The TV Schedule Book," show
the following ABC daytime schedule for fall 1960 (times are
Eastern):

11 AM Morning Court
11:30 Love That Bob
12 N The Texan
12:30 Queen For A Day
1 PM About Faces
1:30 (Local)
2 PM Day In Court
2:30 Road To Reality
3 PM Beat The Clock
3:30 Who Do You Trust?
4 PM American Bandstand
5:30 Late Afternoon Kidvid

NBC's daytime schedule, fall 1959:

7 AM Today
9 AM (Local)
10 AM Dough Re Mi
10:30 Treasure Hunt
11 AM The Price Is Right
11:30 Concentration
12 N Tic Tac Dough
12:30 It Could Be You
1 PM (Local)
2 PM Queen For A Day
2:30 The Thin Man
3 PM Young Dr. Malone
3:30 From These Roots
4 PM The House On High Street
4:30 Split Personality

"Make Room For Daddy" is listed at 4 PM, starting
in the fall of 1960.

These are also the schedules I remember.

Where are you getting your information?

 

[oldiesfan6479]

With the usual "take Wiki info with a grain of salt" disclaimer, there is a treasure-trove
of daytime (and other dayparts) US network TV schedules back to the late 1940s here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_network_television_schedules

All times ET--even though the copy states "times Eastern and Pacific" which for left
coast daytime may or may not be correct, depending on the year and network.

 

[hipman2]

Found this link:

http://www.curtalliaume.com/abc_day.html

 

[bpatrick]

I see Curt Alliaume's listings and I'm convinced those
are from wherever he's from. I've known stations to
delay "Trailmaster," for example, from its in-pattern time
of 4 PM to as early as 10:30 AM the following day or week.
I think there's a possibility of his local ABC affiliate carrying
something else at noon and delaying "The Texan" to 1:30,
especially if it was WLW-I (WTHR) Indianapolis, which would
most certainly have carried Ruth Lyons 12-1:30. The Wikipedia
site also relies to some extent on Alliaume's listings, although
it lists Castleman and Podrazik as a source. But C & P don't show
Gale Storm after the summer of 1960, nor do they show "The Texan"
beyond fall 1960.

There's also a Wikipedia site somewhere that shows CBS rerunning
"The Millionaire" at 11:30 AM. That show aired at 3/2 until sometime
in 1963, when it moved first to 3:30 (ET), then 4:30.

I have posted a number of retros from the Kentucky edition
of TV Guide from the late '50s and early '60s, and the schedules
of the ABC affiliates in Cincinnati and Evansville are basically in
sync with Castleman and Podrazik. So I stand by what I've posted
above.

 

[KeithE4]

I think there's a possibility of his local ABC affiliate carrying something else at noon and delaying "The Texan" to 1:30, especially if it was WLW-I (WTHR) Indianapolis, which would most certainly have carried Ruth Lyons 12-1:30.

WLWI/13 did air Ruth Lyons from 12 Noon to 1:30 "fast time" in late 1960. WPTA/21 Fort Wayne aired The Texan at noon, while WLWI ran it at 10 AM (previous day's show?).

Link: TV Guide, 11/30/60, 6 AM to Noon
Link: TV Guide, 11/30/60, Noon to 1:30 PM

 

[bpatrick]

Because I'm running out of time to modify my previous posting,
here's the winter 1961 ABC daytime schedule as I have it from Castleman
and Podrazik. Again, the retros I've posted are in sync with this:

11 AM Morning Court
11:30 Love That Bob
12 N Camouflage
12:30 Number Please
1 PM About Faces
1:25 News
1:30 (Local)
2 PM Day In Court
2:30 Seven Keys
3 PM Queen For A Day
3:30 Who Do You Trust?
4 PM American Bandstand
5:30 Late Afternoon Kidvid

Here are the daytime schedules for WTVW/7 Evansville
and WCPO/9 Cincinnati, Monday, February 6, 1961:

WTVW 8:30 Ninth Grade English
9 AM Intermediate Science And Health
9:30 U.S. History
10 AM Eighth Grade Science
10:30 Government
11 AM Conversational Spanish
11:30 Plane Geometry
11:55 Farm Digest
12 N Camouflage
12:30 Number Please
1 PM About Faces
1:30 Highway Patrol
2 PM Day In Court
2:30 Road To Reality ("Seven Keys" debuted April 3)
3 PM Queen For A Day
3:30 Who Do You Trust?
4 PM American Bandstand
5 PM Rin Tin Tin
5:30 Three Stooges
5:55 Weather

WCPO 6:50 Farm News
7 AM Religion Today
7:15 Joe Emerson
7:30 Know Your World
8 AM Cartoons
8:30 Bozo The Clown
9 AM Al And Wanda Lewis
10 AM Willy
10:30 People's Choice
11 AM Our Miss Brooks
11:30 Love That Bob
12 N Camouflage
12:30 Number Please
1 PM About Faces
1:30 Highway Patrol
2 PM Day In Court
2:30 Road To Reality
3 PM Queen For A Day
3:30 Who Do You Trust?
4 PM American Bandstand
5 PM Popeye And His Friends
5:30 Rin Tin Tin

No mention of "The Texan" anywhere, despite Alliaume's assertion
that it was running at 1:30 at that point.

I also have a Kentucky TV Guide for the week of December 17-23, 1960,
that shows "The Texan" at noon on both WTVW and WCPO (remember that
ABC was on a clock-time daytime schedule then). Again, "Highway Patrol"
is listed as the 1:30 show on both stations, although different episodes since
that show was always syndicated.

So I flat maintain that Alliaume is incorrect.

 

[searadiofreak]

I note that the big three all had just 15 minute local newscasts. Who was the first network affiliate that expanded to 30 minute local news?