RETRO: Southern Ohio TV Guide, Daytime, Sept 25-29, 1978

[ohstuskaterpunk]

Stations in these listings

Columbus: "4" WCMH (formerly WLW-C until 1976; NBC), "6" WTVN (became WSYX in 1988; ABC), "10" WBNS (CBS), (3) The Network Channel
Cincinnati: 5 WLWT (NBC), 9 WCPO (CBS), 12 WKRC (ABC)
Dayton: 2 WDTN (NBC), 7 WHIO (CBS), 22 WKEF (ABC) <= WKEF (ABC 1966-1980 and since 2004, NBC 1980-2004); WLW-D/WDTN (WLW-D became WDTN in 1976; NBC/Dumont 1949, NBC 1949-80 and since 2004, ABC 1980-2004)
Zanesville: "18" WHIZ (NBC)
Lima: 35 WIMA (WIMA from 1955-72, then WLIO; NBC)

7 am 2, "4", 5, "18", 35 Today--Brokaw
At that time, Tom Brokaw and Jane Pauley were the hosts.
"6", 12, 22 Good Morning America--David Hartman
Joan Lunden co-hosted with Hartman.
7, 9 CBS News--Stahl/Threlkeld
"10" Jetsons--Cartoon

7.30 "10" Schoolies--Children

8 am 7, 9, "10" Captain Kangaroo

9 am 2, "4", 5 Phil Donahue
"6" Emergency One!--Drama
7 Daytime Dayton
9 Uncle Al
(Live)
"10" Match Game (normal time was 4 pm)
12 Edge of Night--Serial (normal time was 4 pm)
"18" Phil Donahue
22 Mike Douglas
35 Phil Donahue

9.30 7 Match Game (normal time was 4 pm)
"10" Family Affair--Comedy
12 $20,000 Pyramid--Game (normal time was 12 pm)

10 am 2 Morning Show--MacLeod
(I remember WBRC's Tom York airing a 2-hr "Morning Show" back when the former ABC affiliate didn't clear the second hour of "Good Morning America" from 8-9 am)
(3), 5, "18, 35 Card Sharks
"4" My Three Sons--Comedy
"6" Edge of Night--Serial (normal time was 4 pm)
7 MASH (normal time was 3.30 pm)
9 Match Game (normal time was 4 pm)
"10" All in the Family (normal time for on-network repeat)
12 Mike Douglas
22 Dinah!

10.30 2, "4", 5, "18", 35 Hollywood Squares--Game
"6" Andy Griffith--Comedy (BW)
7, 9, "10" Price is Right--Game

11 am 2, "4", 5, "18", 35 High Rollers--Game
"6", 12, 22 Happy Days

11.30 2, "4", "18", 35 Wheel of Fortune
5 Midday
"6", 12, 22 Family Feud--Game
7, "10" Love of Life--Serial
9 All in the Family (normal time was 10 am)

12 pm 2, 5 Bob Braun--Variety
(Live)
(Note: Locally out of Cincinnati, was carried by the midwestern stations then-owned by the Crosby/Avco group from 1967 to 1984)
"4", "6", 7, "10" News
9 Noon Report
12 Extra!--Interview
"18" America Alive!--Jack Linkletter
22 $20,000 Pyramid--Game
35 America Alive!--Jack Linkletter

12.30 "4" Bob Braun--Variety
"6", 12, 22 Ryan's Hope--Serial
7, "10" Search For Tomorrow--Serial
35 Easter's Parade

1 pm (3) For Richer, For Poorer
"6", 12, 22 All My Children
7, "10" Young and the Restless--Serial (normal time was 12 pm; Sunrise Semester should have been in this slot)
9 Search For Tomorrow (normal time is 12.30 pm)
"18" News

1.15 "18" Farm and Home Report

1.30 2, "4", 5, "18", 35 Days of Our Lives--Serial
7, 9, "10" As the World Turns

2 pm "6", 12, 22 One Life to Live--Serial

2.30 2, "4", 5, "18", 35 Doctors--Serial
7, 9, "10" Guiding Light--Serial

3 pm 2, "4", 5, "18", 35 Another World--Serial
"6", 12 General Hospital--Serial
22 New Mickey Mouse Club

3.30 7 All in the Family (normal time was 10 am)
9 MASH (normal time for on-network repeat)
"10" Joker's Wild--Game
22 Clubhouse 22--Joe Smith

4 pm 2 Movie
(3) Edge of Night--Serial
"6" Merv Griffin--Variety; 90 min
7 Six Million Dollar Man--Drama; 60 min
9 Movie
"10" Batman--Adventure
12 Dinah!--Variety; 90 min
"18" For Richer, For Poorer
22 Batman--Adventure
35 Gilligan's Island

 

[dxtrfn]

7, "10" Young and the Restless--Serial (normal time was 12 pm; Sunrise Semester should have been in this slot)

CBS did not offically program the 1pm slot until 1980 when Y&R went to 1 hour. Some stations (NYC for example) aired the networks 4pm offering at 1pm then when CBS programmed at 1pm then some stations programmed the 4pm program at 12pm. I guess some affilates put Sunrise Semester in the 1pm slot instead of the early morning slot. Until the late 70's (1978 I think) ABC was the only network that programmed at 1pm.

"18" America Alive!--Jack Linkletter
35 America Alive!--Jack Linkletter

35 aired the 30 minute version, according to the archives on the board WSLS in Roanoke also aired the 30 minute version to air local news at 12:30pm.

 

[oldiesfan6479]

I guess some affilates put Sunrise Semester in the 1pm slot instead of the
early morning slot.

1:00-1:30pm ET was the closed-circuit feed time for Sunrise Surprise in that era
(for air at various early-morning times the next day) as it was a dead half-hour
on both the NY (1:00 ET/12:00 CT) and left coast (12:00 PT) feeds.

Mountain time zone stations would of course be playing "catch up" by airing
a kinnie of Ding Dong School from 1958 at 5:30am. ;D

 

[bpatrick]

Castleman and Podrazik, in "The TV Schedule Book,"
show Sunrise Semester on CBS at 1 PM, but I don't
recall ANY CBS affiliate airing it at that time (can you
imagine the lousy ratings?). I believe it was indeed
a closed-circuit feed to the affiliates for broadcast
between 5:30 and 7 the following morning.

I have an Atlanta edition of TV Guide from 1978 that
shows WRCB Chattanooga carrying America Alive for
30 minutes, but WCWB (now WMGT) Macon carrying
the full hour. America Alive was pre-empted in Atlanta;
then-NBC affiliate WSB ran local news at noon, followed
by Liars Club at 12:30.

 

[dxtrfn]

Of course Atlanta started the noon time slot for local news. Channel 17 picked up some of the programs including Jeopardy!. Channel 17 and Jeopardy! have had a lot of success in the TV industry today.

 

[genius]

I find it odd that The Young and The Restless was pre-empted on WCPO...

Until the late 70's (1978 I think) ABC was the only network that programmed at 1pm.

This is indeed true. I can't remeber when exactly Days of Our Lives switched over to 1PM, but I believe it was around the same time Another World expanded to 90 minutes, and it was there when Texas made its debut as after Another World went back to being 60 minutes, they changed its timeslot to 2PM ET. The Doctors would move to 12:30, then spend its last miserable months at 12 Noon after Search For Tomorrow moved to NBC.

On CBS, after Love of Life was moved to 4PM and subsequently cancelled, Young and the Restless moved from Noon to 1PM until the summer of 1981, when CBS moved to 12:30, where it has remained for 25 years.

By the way, I noticed at least one NBC station aired "For Richer, For Poorer", formerly known as Lovers and Friends in a 4PM timeslot. Interestingly, Septermber 29th, 1978, which is the Friday on the week posted, would be the last day for this almost a spinoff of Another World.

 

[ohstuskaterpunk]

Here's the rest of the daytime schedule...

4.30 pm "4" Gilligan's Island--Comedy (BW)
"10" Brady Bunch--Comedy
"18" New Mickey Mouse Club
22 Brady Bunch--Comedy
35 Six Million Dollar Man--Drama; 60 min.

5 pm "4" Star Trek--Science Fiction; 60 min.
7 My Three Sons--Comedy
"10" Gomer Pyle, USMC--Comedy
"18" Star Trek--Science Fiction; 60 min.
22 Emergency One!--Drama; 60 min.

5.30 "6", 12 News
7 Mary Tyler Moore--Comedy
"10" Mary Tyler Moore--Comedy
35 Brady Bunch--Comedy

6 pm 2, "4", 5, 7, 9, "10", "18", 35 News
"6", 22 ABC News--Robinson/Reynolds

6.30 2, "4", 5, "18", 35 NBC News--Chancellor/Brinkley
"6" Carol Burnett and Friends
7, 9, "10" CBS News--Cronkite
12 ABC News--Robinson/Reynolds
22 Newlywed Game
7 pm 2 NBC News--Chancellor/Brinkley
"4" PM Magazine (loved this show!...i've seen it on WAPI/WVTM when i lived in Birmingham; started as Evening Magazine in 1976; a mix of national and local light news, entertainment, and information; ended its run in 1990)
5 Dating Game
Debut: Jim Lange was the host.
"6", 35 Newlywed Game
7, "10" News
9 Joker's Wild--Game
12 Tic, Tac, Dough--Game
"18" Odd Couple--Comedy
22 Liars Club--Game

At 7.30 pm, the notion of "stripping" came into play on some tv stations.

7.30 2, "4" Dating Game
5 Family Feud (Mon) (syndicated version made its debut on this station; originally start airing in Sept 1977)
Muppet Show--Variety (Tue) (1976-81)
Match Game PM (Wed) (1975–81 (weekly), 1979–82 (daily) & 1998–99 weekdays)
Bonkers--Variety (Th)
Name That Tune--Game (F) (syndicated version aired from 1974-81)
"6" Muppet Show--Variety (M)
Candid Camera (T)
Match Game PM (W)
Bonkers--Variety (Th)
$1.98 Beauty Show--Game (F) (1978-80 parody of beauty pageants)
7 Cross-wits--Game (M, T, Th) (1975-80 TV-version of filling out crossword puzzles at home)
30 Minutes (W)
9 Next Step Beyond--Drama (M)
Howard Jarvis' National Tax Revolt (T) (some 1978 special report)
Price is Right--Game (W) (syndicated version aired from 1972-80)
Juvenile Court
"10" Wild Kingdom (M) (syndicated version aired from 1971-88; was on NBC from 1963-71)
Price is Right--Game (T)
The Judge--Drama (W)
$100,000 Name That Tune--Game (Th)
Family Feud--Game (F)
"18" Price is Right--Game (M)
MVL on the Sideline (T) (some local high school football program for Muskingum Valley)
Blue Devil Kickoff (W)
Family Feud--Game (Th)
Sha Na Na--Variety (F) (a rock and roll/comedy group from New York City, who perform covers of doo wop hits from the 1950s; TV show aired from 1977-81)
22 Evening--Johnny Walker
35 Joker's Wild--Game (the Ohio State Lottery aired once a week, on Tuesdays)

 

[ohstuskaterpunk]

RETRO: Southern Ohio TV Guide, Daytime changes, Oct 30, 1978

things changed a little bit on NBC stations from 10 am to 12 pm ET...

10 am "4", 5, "18", 35 Card Sharks

10.30 2, "4", 5, "18", 35 Jeopardy!--Game

11 am 2, "4", 5, "18", 35 High Rollers

11.30 2, (3), "18", 35 Wheel of Fortune (started in early Jan 1975 to compensate the first demise of Jeopardy (NBC 1964-75 was the first life and 1978-79 was the second; moved to CBS in 1989 and then back to NBC briefly in 1991; syndicated version has been on the air since 1983)
"4" News

12 pm 2, "4", 5 Bob Braun--Variety
(Live, 90 min.)
"18" America Alive!--Jack Linkletter; 60 min.
35 America Alive!--Jack Linkletter

12.30 35 Easter's Parade; 60 min.

1 pm (3) Hollywood Squares--Game

4 pm "18" Hollywood Squares--Game (the new "regular" time for the series)

the 10.30 am (ET) slot on NBC was important during the 1960s and '70s. the most-highly-rated game show aired at the time slot. it used to be hollywood squares (1966-78), then jeopardy (1978-79).

when did wheel of fortune moved to the 11 am ET/10 CT spot on NBC?

 

[Braves2005]

On CBS, after Love of Life was moved to 4PM and subsequently cancelled, Young and the Restless moved from Noon to 1PM until the summer of 1981, when CBS moved to 12:30, where it has remained for 25 years.

I believe that The Young And The Restless has maintained the same 11:00 AM Central timeslot ever since it premiered in March 1973 on many stations. Some stations have carried it at 11:30 AM while in the 90's it even aired in the afternoons on some stations including KENS-5 San Antonio where it aired at 3:00 PM in the afternoons back in the mid 90's,but that didn't work out,so it went back to 11:00 AM where it has been ever since.

 

[dxtrfn]

Could you post the nighttime listings? (8pm-sign off)

 

[genius]

I believe that The Young And The Restless has maintained the same 11:00 AM Central timeslot ever since it premiered in March 1973 on many stations. Some stations have carried it at 11:30 AM while in the 90's it even aired in the afternoons on some stations including KENS-5 San Antonio where it aired at 3:00 PM in the afternoons back in the mid 90's,but that didn't work out,so it went back to 11:00 AM where it has been ever since.

Indeed it has, especially when CBS began the 12ET/11 CT feed for the stations in the Central(and some Mountain) time zones.

 

[bpatrick]

A few replies:

Days Of Our Lives went to 1 PM in 1979, and it was
indeed when Another World went to 90 minutes. For
about a year and a half, NBC had Days at 1, The Doctors
at 2, and Another World at 2:30. On August 4, 1980,
Texas debuted at 3, Another World was cut back to an
hour and moved to 2, and The Doctors moved to 12:30.

It's not so unusual that The Young And The Restless wasn't
airing on WCPO at the time; WBTV Charlotte didn't pick it
up until it went to an hour, and I think that's also true
of WTVT Tampa/St Petersburg. I believe there was a point
in the '70s when WCPO showed only the Procter & Gamble CBS
soaps: As The World Turns, Guiding Light, Search For Tomorrow,
and Edge Of Night (when it was on CBS), meaning that Love
Of Life was pre-empted as well. And while most CBS affiliates outside
the Eastern time zone show Y&R at 11 AM, there are a few that
run it at 11:30: KCBS Los Angeles, WBBM Chicago, KTVT Dallas/
Ft. Worth, and WTVF Nashville come to mind. LA and Chicago have
their midday news at 11, Dallas has Jeopardy! at 11, and Nashville
has its local infotainment show Talk Of The Town.

 

[gr8oldies]

The lack of "General Hospital" being carried in Dayton (including the early 80s Luke and Laura heyday) lasted until just a few years ago.

 

[genius]

It's not so unusual that The Young And The Restless wasn't
airing on WCPO at the time; WBTV Charlotte didn't pick it
up until it went to an hour, and I think that's also true
of WTVT Tampa/St Petersburg. I believe there was a point
in the '70s when WCPO showed only the Procter & Gamble CBS
soaps: As The World Turns, Guiding Light, Search For Tomorrow,
and Edge Of Night (when it was on CBS), meaning that Love
Of Life was pre-empted as well.

I just remembered that Proctor&Gamble is based out of Cincinnati. That explains it about WCPO I guess! ;D

 

[Charles1]

A poster said...

"...PM Magazine (loved this show!...i've seen it on WAPI/WVTM when i lived in Birmingham...)

Actually, PM Magazine aired on WBRC-6 in Birmingham.

 

[ohstuskaterpunk]

sorry, charles 1, you're right...

 

[bpatrick]

About Bob Braun, he had a fairly decent syndication
in his part of the country. Besides the stations in
Columbus, Cincinnati, and Dayton, he was on:

WTHR/13 Indianapolis
WHAS/11 (later WDRB/41) Louisville
WLEX/18 Lexington, KY
WSAZ/3 Charleston/Huntington, WV
WZTV/17 Nashville
WBIR/10 Knoxville

At one point (late '70s or early '80s) Multimedia,
at the time owner of WLWT, WBIR, and WZTV,
wanted to take Braun national. He refused, saying
he'd have to stop spotlighting local and regional talent.
By this time, shows like Mike Douglas and Merv Griffin
were on the wane, and since Braun was more in
that vein than he was in Phil Donahue's, I wonder
how long he could have lasted nationally? Probably
not very long.

I remember seeing Braun on commercials for an
adjustable bed. He died in 2001, age 71.

 

[dxtrfn]

Most of the stations that broadcasted the shows were NBC affilates. The noon time slot preempted the 12pm and 12:30pm slots on NBC. When did the show move out of the 12pm slot because when NBC programmed the 1pm slot, the show either had to be cut to 60 minutes or move to 11:30am.

 

[bpatrick]

I remember WLEX, NBC in Lexington, carrying the last
hour of Bob Braun (12:30-1:30) in the late '70s, even
after Days Of Our Lives moved to 1 PM. All three NBC
affiliates in the Kentucky edition of TV Guide continued
to carry Days at 1:30; WLWT, of course, had Braun,
while WAVE/3 Louisville had Mike Douglas at 12:30.
I don't remember how Chs. 3, 5, and 18 handled The
Doctors (probably aired it in the morning on a day-behind
basis).

WSAZ, on the other hand, ran Braun on tape at 9 AM,
and kept the NBC soaps in pattern.

WHAS (CBS then) also carried an hour of Braun (12:30-
1:30) and ran Young And The Restless and Search For
Tomorrow on a day-behind 9-10 AM (they had a noon
newscast). WBIR, also CBS then, carried Braun at 9,
IIRC, and ran the CBS soaps in pattern.

 

[ohstuskaterpunk]

Crosley/Avco stations

From wikipedia...

"In the 1950s and 1960s, Crosley (or Avco) operated is own small television network in which programs were produced at one its stations and broadcast on the other Crosley stations in the midwest, and occasionally by non-Crosley stations as well. Since all of the Crosley television stations in Ohio were affiliated with NBC(with the exception of WLWI in Indianapolis, Indiana affiliated with ABC), the Crosley programming fit into the NBC network program schedule, and some programs were even picked up for broadcast by the entire NBC network, such as Midwestern Hayride and Breakfast Party. Other programs originated on the Crosley (or Avco) network included The Paul Dixon Show and The Ruth Lyons 50-50 Club, later hosted by Bob Braun. The Phil Donahue Show started in 1967 originating from WLWD in Dayton, Ohio".

Here were the stations owned by Crosley/Avco...

Current DMA# Market Station Years Owned

9. Atlanta WLTV/WLW-A 2/8/11 (once ABC, 1951-80; now WXIA 11, a NBC station) 1951-62
currently owned by the Gannett Company
25. Indianapolis WLW-I 13 (ABC from 1957-79; now WTHR, a NBC station) 1957-74
currently owned by the Dispatch Broadcast Group
32. Columbus WLW-C 3/4 (now WCMH 4) 1949-76
NBC/Universal sold NBC4 to Media General in 2006.
33. Cincinnati WLWT 4/5 1948-76
currenly owned by Hearst-Argyle
37. San Antonio WOAI-TV 4 1965-75
currently owned by Clear Channel
58. Dayton WLWD 5/2 (NBC 1949-80, 2004-present and ABC 1980-2004; now WDTN 2) 1947-76
currently owned by LIN TV

From http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2001/06/18/tem_kiesewetter_hayride.html

"The [Midwestern] Hayride, one of Cincinnati's first weekly series, was a local TV fixture until 1972. For the 1955-56 TV season, NBC aired a half-hour Hayride on Wednesday nights. Throughout most of the 1950s, the Hayride was a summer replacement series on NBC or ABC, giving national exposure to the homegrown or regional acts".

Avco syndicated Hayride to 90 stations nationwide, beginnning in the late 1960s. The show, started originally on WLW radio in 1938...moved to TV in 1948. Ended its run in 1972.