Retro TV Guide skeds we'd like to see

[Mike Stroud]

Friends:

Here are some editions of TV Guide from the classic era of the 1960s and 1970s that I have yet to see any schedules recently posted on here. If any of you have one or more of them, share them with us! They include:

Arkansas (Little Rock, Shreveport, La.)
Central California (Fresno, Bakersfield)
Central Pennsylvania (Scranton/Wilkes Barre, Harrisburg)
Colorado (statewide, not just Denver)
Eastern Illinois (Champaign, Decatur, Springfield)
Eastern New York State (Albany, Binghamton, Syracuse)
Illinois-Wisconsin (Rockford, Madison, Chicago, Milwaukee)
Nevada (Las Vegas, Reno)
North Texas (Dallas/Fort Worth, Wichita Falls, Waco)
Northern California (Bay area northward)
San Diego
South Florida (Miami, Fort Lauderdale)

Again, we're looking for 1960-1980 only, after the "golden age" but before the advent of cable and deregulation.

In the meantime, I'll take a look at my inventory and let people know what I have, and arrange to post them over a one-to-two-year period. How does that sound?

 

[classictvfan]

Do you have any Minneapolis-St. Paul editions from the 1970s or 1980s?

 

[Mike Stroud]

Do you have any Minneapolis-St. Paul editions from the 1970s or 1980s?

Yes, I do, from 1974. Let me look it up and I'll post it, sometime next week. Thanks for asking.

 

[Mike Stroud]

Do you have any Minneapolis-St. Paul editions from the 1970s or 1980s?

Yes, I do, from 1974. Let me look it up and I'll post it, sometime next week. Thanks for asking.

Boy, do I keep my promises, or what? classictvfan, let me see what I can do this weekend. Maybe I'll have a few spare moments.

 

[radioman148]

Friends:

Here are some editions of TV Guide from the classic era of the 1960s and 1970s that I have yet to see any schedules recently posted on here. If any of you have one or more of them, share them with us! They include:

Arkansas (Little Rock, Shreveport, La.)
Central California (Fresno, Bakersfield)
Central Pennsylvania (Scranton/Wilkes Barre, Harrisburg)
Colorado (statewide, not just Denver)
Eastern Illinois (Champaign, Decatur, Springfield)
Eastern New York State (Albany, Binghamton, Syracuse)
Illinois-Wisconsin (Rockford, Madison, Chicago, Milwaukee)
Nevada (Las Vegas, Reno)
North Texas (Dallas/Fort Worth, Wichita Falls, Waco)
Northern California (Bay area northward)
San Diego
South Florida (Miami, Fort Lauderdale)

Again, we're looking for 1960-1980 only, after the "golden age" but before the advent of cable and deregulation.

In the meantime, I'll take a look at my inventory and let people know what I have, and arrange to post them over a one-to-two-year period. How does that sound?

I'd sure like to see anything from Chicago in the 60s.

 

[Rob Jason]

I would like to make a request for all the fine, fine people who post these fun-to-read retro schedules:

If you are willing, please indicate which shows were indicated "in color". This, of course, applies to only the era when TV Guide & newspapers had to indicate when a show was in color, and B & W was the norm.

I know the original symbol for color was (cc), indicating "compatible color". Then it went to just one "c" bullet on a black background. So, just a simple (c) next to the show listing would do.

But it would be really neat to know! Thanks!

 

[harrisburgpatv]

Please help educate this young TV lover...What is "Compatible Color"?

 

[BRNout]

I would like to make a request for all the fine, fine people who post these fun-to-read retro schedules:

If you are willing, please indicate which shows were indicated "in color". This, of course, applies to only the era when TV Guide & newspapers had to indicate when a show was in color, and B & W was the norm.

I know the original symbol for color was (cc), indicating "compatible color". Then it went to just one "c" bullet on a black background. So, just a simple (c) next to the show listing would do.

But it would be really neat to know! Thanks!

Yes, and I only remember seeing the black bullet for (c) - but I only started to have interest in TV Guide in 1968 or 1969 (when I was old enough to read and comprehend it). By then, most listed shows were followed by the (c) and the (BW) came soon thereafter. The (cc) must have gone away long before then.

 

[Tim L]

Earlier on, In the 1950's up till 1968, TV Guide denoted color programs with a small rectangle with the word COLOR in capital letters, they did the same with returning shows and new shows using RETURN and DEBUT in the rectangles..

"Compatible Color" I think had to do with the RCA/NBC Color system which was "compatible" or could be played on black and white sets (In B&W of course) whereas the CBS Color system would not play on then-current TV sets. Once RCA won the color tv battle by the Mid 1950's , the term "compatible color" became redundant..

 

[oldiesfan6479]

Network programs aside (everything in color by the 66-67 season),
imagine being the "third" station in your market--probably the ABC
affiliate--and seeing the other two stations' late news (11/10pm)
shown in TV Guide with the COLOR rectangle, while your newscast's
listing lacks it.

One or both of the competition may be doing its COLOR-branded
show with only one TK-41, but doesn't it make you feel inferior?

 

[Tim L]

Network programs aside (everything in color by the 66-67 season),
imagine being the "third" station in your market--probably the ABC
affiliate--and seeing the other two stations' late news (11/10pm)
shown in TV Guide with the COLOR rectangle, while your newscast's
listing lacks it.

One or both of the competition may be doing its COLOR-branded
show with only one TK-41, but doesn't it make you feel inferior?

I dont know about that but certain ABC shows (Jetsons, Flintstones) were broadcast in Color, but WEWS-Channel 5 Cleveland was the only one of the NE Ohio ABC affiliates that showed some ABC shows in color (Though local News, etc..was still Black and White,,) 33 and 49 in Youngtown and Akron would note after these listings "Channels 33 and 49 do not colorcast"

 

[Tim from Springfield IL]

Friends:

Here are some editions of TV Guide from the classic era of the 1960s and 1970s that I have yet to see any schedules recently posted on here. If any of you have one or more of them, share them with us! They include:


Eastern Illinois (Champaign, Decatur, Springfield)

Illinois-Wisconsin (Rockford, Madison, Chicago, Milwaukee)

I would also like to see more Western Illinois (Davenport/Rock Island/Moline, Peoria/Bloomington, Quincy/Hannibal, Kirksville/Ottumwa, Springfield) edition listings. I don't think old TVG's are at my local public library, although Springfield city proper got the Eastern IL edition. Now Peoria was another case for two reasons--I recall seeing old Western Illinois edition TV Guides at the main branch of the Peoria Public Library circa 1995.

Although many classic TVG websites listed the Eastern Illinois edition as the "home edition" for the Peoria/Bloomington market stations, subscribers and businesses selling TVG in Peoria city proper (and all of Peoria County--which even to this digital day can also receive Grade B signals from the Quad Cities network affiliates) always received the Western Illinois edition. Even in Tazewell County (which had some viewers able to also pick up signals from Decatur and Champaign/Urbana in addition to Peoria and Springfield), I only saw the Western Illinois edition on sale there (but the Eastern IL edition was available southwest of Tazewell County in Mason County--county seat Havana). Further muddying the waters was that since its 1999 sign-on until local listings were discontinued in 2005, Peoria UPN (now MY) station WAOE-59 was NEVER listed in the Eastern Illinois edition, but was available in the Western IL edition since shortly after its sign-on. But I'm sure Bloomington and McLean County got the Eastern Illinois edition--so IMO both the Western and Eastern IL editions served as "home" for the Peoria/Bloomington market channels (perhaps the Western IL edition more so).

 

[mleach]

Network programs aside (everything in color by the 66-67 season),
imagine being the "third" station in your market--probably the ABC
affiliate--and seeing the other two stations' late news (11/10pm)
shown in TV Guide with the COLOR rectangle, while your newscast's
listing lacks it.

One or both of the competition may be doing its COLOR-branded
show with only one TK-41, but doesn't it make you feel inferior?

The funny thing is that last local TV station I can remember seeing in TV Guide who was still airing their local programs in wonderful B&W was Salisbury, MD's WBOC-TV channel 16...pretty much a CBS station ( yes I do know that back then WBOC did air shows from NBC and ABC too but for the most part, they were CBS ). That was in 1975 but sometime that year WBOC had finally made the switch to color. Baltimore's WBFF channel 45, as late as 1974 were still airing at least some of their local programs in B&W but WBFF back then was an indie..and a cheap indie at that though they sure made it up in signal coverage.

Even though unreated to this, I can remember seeing some local CABLE shows that was still done in black & white well into the mid 1980's !!!!

 

[radioman148]

In Chicago the first stations to telecast in color were WGN-TV and the NBC owned which was WNBQ.
It wasn't until several years after those stations were already in color before WBBM-TV and WBKB (ABC) had shows in color.

 

[mleach]

In Chicago the first stations to telecast in color were WGN-TV and the NBC owned which was WNBQ.
It wasn't until several years after those stations were already in color before WBBM-TV and WBKB (ABC) had shows in color.

I have seen promos online for WBKB from 1966, maybe it was 1967 ( circle seven and all ) and they were still in black & white. Catchy jingle though !!!

"...channel 7....W..B..K..B...in Chicago !!"

 

[wbhist]

In Chicago the first stations to telecast in color were WGN-TV and the NBC owned which was WNBQ.
It wasn't until several years after those stations were already in color before WBBM-TV and WBKB (ABC) had shows in color.

In New York, WRCA-TV (later WNBC-TV) broadcast some shows in color (and that's just local), but a good many of them were still B&W. But among the indies, WOR-TV began airing color films on their Million Dollar Movie beginning in 1960, and around 1963 or so started airing Mets games and some studio-based shows in color. WABC-TV began showing movies in color (and that's their locally-originated movie shows, now) in 1964, and the first color feature films on WCBS-TV's The Late Show were aired in early 1966 (I.I.N.M., after Feb. 26 of that year; however, their occasional Award Theatre ran some color films a bit before that).

WGN's New York sister station, WPIX, didn't start going color until 1965, and from what I've seen WNEW-TV was the last of the three indies to start airing in color, in 1966.

 

[radioman148]

In Chicago the first stations to telecast in color were WGN-TV and the NBC owned which was WNBQ.
It wasn't until several years after those stations were already in color before WBBM-TV and WBKB (ABC) had shows in color.

I have seen promos online for WBKB from 1966, maybe it was 1967 ( circle seven and all ) and they were still in black & white. Catchy jingle though !!!

"...channel 7....W..B..K..B...in Chicago !!"

I remember that. It was a great jingle.

 

[mleach]

WGN's New York sister station, WPIX, didn't start going color until 1965, and from what I've seen WNEW-TV was the last of the three indies to start airing in color, in 1966.

WGN's sister station Denver KWGN went color the same year..1965. I have NO idea when the other Denver stations at the time like KOA (KCNC ), KLZ (KMGH ) and KBTV went color however in the case of KBTV ( now KUSA ), in the 1969 John Forsythe/Shirley Jones drama "The Happy Ending" that was filmed in Denver there is a brief scene of a taxi cab with an ad on the back that said "9 on 9...in color KBTV Denver", that tells me that KBTV had gone color at least by late 1968/early 1969 when the movie was filmed. I assume by that time KOA and KLZ had went color as well.

In Washington DC...this gets interesting and perhaps may raise questions. For years I had always thought it was WRC-TV who had went color first in that market. But according to Maury Povich in 1985 during WTTG's 40th Anniversary special, he shows a clip from some local talk show WTTG had aired way back ( I need to find that tape one of these days to find out the name of the show ) where the host claimed that HIS show on WTTG was the first local TV show that was produced and broadcast in color. However I have seen a tape of WRC from 1959 ( the one where someone presses the button to switch from B&W to Color and near him was none other than President Eisenhower ) so did this "color" show from WTTG aired before WRC's say 1958?

 

[RyanHoward]

One station that had local shows in B&W for a while was WCMC-TV(now WMGM-TV), the original Ch. 40 in Wildwood, NJ(at the Jersey Shore). I remember that station was listed in my local TV Guide(Philadelphia) since the early 1970's. It wasn't until about 1981(after it became WAAT) when it became a full color station.

 

[BobbyNBC10]

I'd like to see the listings of the Michigan State Edition of TV Guide from March, 1959 until 1979 when the edition was broken up and made into the Southern Michigan and Northern Michigan Editions. Also Northern California from 1976-1999.