Retro TV Guide skeds we'd like to see

[radioman148]

WGN's New York sister station, WPIX, didn't start going color until 1965, and from what I've seen WNEW-TV was the last of the three indies to start airing in color, in 1966.

WGN's sister station Denver KWGN went color the same year..1965. I have NO idea when the other Denver stations at the time like KOA (KCNC ), KLZ (KMGH ) and KBTV went color however in the case of KBTV ( now KUSA ), in the 1969 John Forsythe/Shirley Jones drama "The Happy Ending" that was filmed in Denver there is a brief scene of a taxi cab with an ad on the back that said "9 on 9...in color KBTV Denver", that tells me that KBTV had gone color at least by late 1968/early 1969 when the movie was filmed. I assume by that time KOA and KLZ had went color as well.

In Washington DC...this gets interesting and perhaps may raise questions. For years I had always thought it was WRC-TV who had went color first in that market. But according to Maury Povich in 1985 during WTTG's 40th Anniversary special, he shows a clip from some local talk show WTTG had aired way back ( I need to find that tape one of these days to find out the name of the show ) where the host claimed that HIS show on WTTG was the first local TV show that was produced and broadcast in color. However I have seen a tape of WRC from 1959 ( the one where someone presses the button to switch from B&W to Color and near him was none other than President Eisenhower ) so did this "color" show from WTTG aired before WRC's say 1958?

WGN-TV had the news & some local programming in color in the late 50s & very early 60s.

 

[Bluenoser]

I'd like to see the listings of the Michigan State Edition of TV Guide from March, 1959 until 1979 when the edition was broken up and made into the Southern Michigan and Northern Michigan Editions. Also Northern California from 1976-1999.

Don't think I have any NoCals from the period (my copy's from early 60s), but you're in luck with Mich State...I've got a few of them in the archives, and I'll post some listings from them in the next few days

 

[Ultimajock]

Network programs aside (everything in color by the 66-67 season),
imagine being the "third" station in your market--probably the ABC
affiliate--and seeing the other two stations' late news (11/10pm)
shown in TV Guide with the COLOR rectangle, while your newscast's
listing lacks it.

One or both of the competition may be doing its COLOR-branded
show with only one TK-41, but doesn't it make you feel inferior?

I dont know about that but certain ABC shows (Jetsons, Flintstones) were broadcast in Color, but WEWS-Channel 5 Cleveland was the only one of the NE Ohio ABC affiliates that showed some ABC shows in color (Though local News, etc..was still Black and White,,) 33 and 49 in Youngtown and Akron would note after these listings "Channels 33 and 49 do not colorcast"

...TVG did the same thing as late as 1968 for CBS and NBC programs being run over WSAU-TV/7 Wausau, Wisconsin (before WAEO/12 Rhinelander signed on the air and took the NBC affiliation away from WSAU-TV)...

 

[Ultimajock]

...I'd like to see as many Wisconsin edition skeds from between December 1968 and November 1972 that feature listings for KFIZ-TV/34 Fond du Lac...

 

[charlestondxman]

How about anything from the South Carolina edition. I have only seen maybe two schedules from that edition, and they were recent (1994 and 1996). I don't care what year, I just want to see what the schedules were for the stations around our area.

 

[Mike Stroud]

How about anything from the South Carolina edition. I have only seen maybe two schedules from that edition, and they were recent (1994 and 1996). I don't care what year, I just want to see what the schedules were for the stations around our area.

South Carolina coming up! Give me a few days and I'll get it up for you.

 

[Mike Stroud]

...I'd like to see as many Wisconsin edition skeds from between December 1968 and November 1972 that feature listings for KFIZ-TV/34 Fond du Lac...

And you're second on my list. I'll have to dig a little bit, but I think I've got something from '72. If not, I'll post on this thread to let you and others know.

 

[mleach]

Denver from the 1950's and early 60's !!!

I used to have a 1959 Denver edition of TV Guide but sadly it was thrown out by accident back in 1995. I do remember seeing those listings back then where that Denver's channel 2 was airing at least 70% local programming during the week and that channel 7 KLZ was very much into TV wrestling. The best one was the ad I remember seeing for some special that KOA-TV 4 was airing about how all the new homes in Littleton, Colorado are built in a way to protect you from fallout with the tag....

"..KOA-TV....the television station for you in the atomic age". Classic !!!!

 

[oldiesfan6479]

WGN's sister station Denver KWGN went color the same year..1965. I have NO idea when the other Denver stations at the time like KOA (KCNC ), KLZ (KMGH ) and KBTV went color.

The 1967 Broadcasting Yearbook (thanks Old Gringo!), which probably closed for
press in mid- to late 1966, has KLZ-TV color capability listed as "net, slides, live,
film, tape," whereas KBTV and KOA-TV were only "net, slides, film, tape" (no live).

The '68 book adds KBTV to the live color standard, but not KOA-TV. Ditto for '69.

It's pretty common knowledge to us old-timers (as opposed to "you younger posters" )
that these yearbooks were rampant with errors, glitches and omissions, however in the
Taishoffs' defense, the data could only be as good as what the stations submitted.

 

[TexasTuner]

Network programs aside (everything in color by the 66-67 season),
imagine being the "third" station in your market--probably the ABC
affiliate--and seeing the other two stations' late news (11/10pm)
shown in TV Guide with the COLOR rectangle, while your newscast's
listing lacks it.

One or both of the competition may be doing its COLOR-branded
show with only one TK-41, but doesn't it make you feel inferior?

But, in all fairness, color gear was very expensive back then...and if you were an ABC affiliate, or God forbid, an independent, and barely making payroll, you had to think long and hard before spending the (then) megabucks to do local origination in color. Lots of guys were doing well just to have the equipment to pass network color, and nothing more. Granted, competition finally made color mandatory, and as we got into the 70s, there were very few operators still running in monochrome. But still, in the early 60s, it was very tough to do financially.

 

[wbhist]

Network programs aside (everything in color by the 66-67 season), imagine being the "third" station in your market--probably the ABC affiliate--and seeing the other two stations' late news (11/10pm) shown in TV Guide with the COLOR rectangle, while your newscast's listing lacks it.

One or both of the competition may be doing its COLOR-branded show with only one TK-41, but doesn't it make you feel inferior?

But, in all fairness, color gear was very expensive back then...and if you were an ABC affiliate, or God forbid, an independent, and barely making payroll, you had to think long and hard before spending the (then) megabucks to do local origination in color. Lots of guys were doing well just to have the equipment to pass network color, and nothing more. Granted, competition finally made color mandatory, and as we got into the 70s, there were very few operators still running in monochrome. But still, in the early 60s, it was very tough to do financially.

The other thing in the early 1960s was, only one maker of any color equipment of consequence (RCA), and the resentment among certain broadcasters over such dominance. It wasn't until Philips came forth with the Norelco 3-Plumbicon PC-60 (and its successors, the PC-70/PC-72/PC-70S-2/PC-70S-3), combined with competing products such as Marconi's Mark VII and General Electric's PE-250/350/400 cameras (and in the case of GE, PE-24/240/245 film chains), that the tide began to turn in terms of stations with color capacity. Certainly Norelco's camera was a trigger for CBS to finally commit to color starting in '65.

 

[Mike Stroud]

...I'd like to see as many Wisconsin edition skeds from between December 1968 and November 1972 that feature listings for KFIZ-TV/34 Fond du Lac...

And you're second on my list. I'll have to dig a little bit, but I think I've got something from '72. If not, I'll post on this thread to let you and others know.

Sorry that I have to report that the Wisconsin edition I have is actually from January 1973, after KFIZ apparently went out of business. My apologies for getting your hopes up.

 

[Ultimajock]

...I'd like to see as many Wisconsin edition skeds from between December 1968 and November 1972 that feature listings for KFIZ-TV/34 Fond du Lac...

And you're second on my list. I'll have to dig a little bit, but I think I've got something from '72. If not, I'll post on this thread to let you and others know.

Sorry that I have to report that the Wisconsin edition I have is actually from January 1973, after KFIZ apparently went out of business. My apologies for getting your hopes up.

...no problem, don't sweat it...

 

[crainbebo]

Any more Eastern Washington/Yakima listings?

-crainbebo

 

[oburn]

what about gulf coast edition tv guide 1955-1961

 

[jwgreek8606]

I would like to see some Fall 1984 schedules from the Atlanta area as well

 

[Jman8606]

I would like to see some more Atlanta from the mid 80s. Like 1984-85 and some More Orlando from the 80s.

 

[TVCOOL]

I would love to see New York City listings from 1980-2005.

 

[Jman8606]

Would love to see spring schedules from Atlanta from the 80s.

 

[Chris36]

Does anyone have TV Listings from December of 1984 in the Providence Boston area at all?? Or not sure if anyone had old newspapers that show the listings before 1984 or not back then Channel 64 call letters were WSTG they called it The Great Entertainer before they became Fox 64 when it went to WNAC I think in 1986 or 1987. But I thought 64 came on the air back in 1981 or 1982 for a few hours a day but the regular TV Guide didnt add them until December of 84. I vaguely remember I think they played The 3 Stooges cartoon old movies like A Star is Born,Wally Gator Lippy the Lion etc. I want to say when they first came on the air they air maybe 4 or 5 hours of programming in the mid to late afternoon to 8 or 9PM. I remember switching through the channels thats on how I found it one day. If anyone has any listings of this I will be very happy to found out what they showed at the time. I have a few editions in 1985 I got on ebay that was the Worcester or Providence Editions but alot of them are from NY or LA that they sell on ebay be nice to see more Rhode Island or Massachusetts Editions. I try google searches but no luck I remembered calling 64 a few years ago and asked if they kept a record of all the shows that they aired over the years and they said no. I was surprised by this I would think they would be log somewhere to have for the channels history but I guess not.