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Retro: Utah-Idaho, May 16, 1975

Here's a rare one for you mountaineers out there. It even includes a strange TVG channel bullet I don't think I've seen in any other edition--ever.

Channels in parentheses were originally represented by black bullets; channels in brackets were represented by white bullets; channels in arrows were represented by split black-and-white bullets; channels in equal signs were represented by an unusual bullet with horizontal black stripes and a raised numeral (the strange one forementioned)


Salt Lake City, Utah:
(2) KUTV (NBC; now CBS affiliate on digital 34; PSIP 2)
(4) KCPX (ABC; now KTVX on digital 40; PSIP 4)
(5) KSL (CBS; now NBC affiliate on digital 38; PSIP 5)
(7) KUED (PBS; now digital 42; PSIP 7)

Provo, Utah:
(11) KBYU (PBS; now digital 44; PSIP 11)

Logan, Utah:
(12) KUSU (PBS; same programs as KUED)

Boise, Idaho:
[2] KBCI (CBS; now KBOI on digital 28; PSIP 2)
[4] KAID (PBS; station of Idaho Public Television; now digital 21; PSIP 4)
[6] KIVI (ABC; now digital 24; PSIP 6)
[7] KTVB (NBC; now digital 7; PSIP same)

Idaho Falls, Idaho:
[3] KID (CBS; now KIDK on digital 36; PSIP 3)
[8] KIFI (NBC; now ABC affiliate on digital 8; PSIP same)

Pocatello, Idaho:
=6= KPVI (ABC; same programs as KIVI; now stand-alone station and NBC affiliate on digital 23; PSIP 6)
[10] KBGL (PBS; station of Idaho Public Television; now KISU on digital 17; PSIP 10)

Twin Falls, Idaho:
[11] KMVT (CBS primary; ABC and NBC secondary; now digital 11; PSIP same)

Casper, Wyoming:
=2= KTWO (NBC primary; ABC and CBS secondary; now ABC primary affiliate on digital 17; PSIP 2)

Thermopolis, Wyoming:
<10> KWRB (NBC primary; ABC and CBS secondary; now satellite of Cheyenne FOX affiliate KLWY on digital 10; PSIP same)


MORNING
5:55 a.m.
(5) Farm News--local

6:00
=2= (4) [11] A.M. America--Bill Beutel, Stephanie Edwards, hosts
(5) CBS Morning News--Hughes Rudd

6:15
(2) Black Experience

6:45
(2) KUTV News

6:55
[8] Spotlite--probably local morning show

7:00
(2) [7] [8] Today Show--Jim Hartz, Barbara Walters
[2] CBS Morning News
[3] (5) Captain Kangaroo
(4) Hotel Balderdash--local children's show that was highly popular in the region
(11) Sesame Street

7:30
<10> Today Show--joined in progress

8:00
[2] (5) Joker's Wild (remember, this is the Mountain Time Zone--same feed as Eastern and Central)
=2= Celebrity Sweepstakes
[3] CBS Morning News
(11) Electric Company
[11] Today Show (60 minutes only)

8:30
[2] (5) Gambit
=2= Wheel of Fortune--show was already a hit, according to some claims
(4) KCPX News
[4] [10] Lilias, Yoga, and You
(11) Mister Rogers' Neighborhood

8:45
(4) Jobs Today--local employment bulletin board

8:50
(4) Entertainment with Shelley Thomas--apparently local

8:55
(4) There's a Cop in the House (well, don't tell us about it ... !!)
(7) Figuring It Out--probably local women's show (but on a PBS affil?)

9:00
(2) =2= [7] [8] <10> [11] High Rollers
[2] [3] Now You See It
(4) Beverly Hillbillies
[4] [10] instructional programming until 10 a.m.
(5) Romper Room
[6] Lucy Show
(11) instructional programming until 11 a.m.

9:10
(7) Electric Company

9:30
(2) =2= [7] [8] <10> [11] Hollywood Squares
[2] [3] (5) Love of Life
(4) [6] Blankety Blanks--short-lived Bob Stewart pun-based game hosted by Bill Cullen

9:55
[2] [3] (5) CBS News--Douglas Edwards, anchor

10:00
(2) [7] [8] <10> Jackpot!
[2] [3] (5) Young and the Restless
=2= (4) [6] [11] Password
[4] (7) [10] Sesame Street

10:30
(2) =2= [7] [8] <10> Blank Check--Jack Barry-packaged number-guessing game, hosted by Art James
[2] [3] (5) Search for Tomorrow
(4) [6] [11] Split Second

10:55
(2) Buyer's Watch--local consumer advice (?)
=2= [7] [8] <10> NBC News--Edwin Newman, anchor

11:00
(2) [7] [8] <10> Celebrity Sweepstakes
[2] Guiding Light
=2= (4) [6] [11] All My Children
[3] Jack LaLanne
[4] [10] (11) Electric Company
(5) Edge of Night--boy, was this sure strange as a scheduling move
(7) instructional programming until 3:30 p.m.

11:30
(2) [8] <10> Days of Our Lives
[2] =2= [3] (5) As the World Turns
(4) [6] [11] Let's Make a Deal
[4] [10] Villa Alegre--in many respects, a bilingual "Sesame Street," with Spanish and English lessons and skits
[7] Wheel of Fortune
(11) Mister Rogers' Neighborhood

AFTERNOON
12:00 p.m.
[2] KBCI News
=2= [3] (5) Guiding Light
(4) [6] [11] $10,000 Pyramid
[4] Mister Rogers' Neighborhood
[7] Gomer Pyle, USMC
[10] Electric Company
(11) Sesame Street

12:30
(2) =2= [7] [8] <10> Doctors
[2] [3] Edge of Night
(4) [6] [11] Big Showdown--unfortunately little-known hard quiz that was a big critics' fave
[4] instructional programming until 4 p.m.
(5) KSL News
[10] instructional programming until 3:30 p.m.

1:00
(2) [7] [8] <10> Another World
[2] [3] (5) Price is Right
=2= (4) [6] [11] General Hospital
(11) instructional programming until 4 p.m.

1:30
[2] [3] (5) Match Game
=2= (4) [6] [11] One Life to Live

2:00
(2) Wheel of Fortune
[2] [3] Tattletales
=2= Days of Our Lives
(4) [6] [11] Money Maze
(5) Movie--"Please Believe Me," 1950

2:30
(2) That Girl
[2] [3] Mike Douglas (90-minute version; different episodes)
(4) Mike Douglas (60-minute version)
[6] Tennessee Tuxedo
[7] Days of Our Lives
[8] <10> Wheel of Fortune
[11] As the World Turns

3:00
(2) Bewitched
=2= <10> $10,000 Pyramid
[6] New Zoo Revue
[8] KIFI News
[11] Views--possibly local public affairs (but at this time of day?)

3:05
[8] Hogan's Heroes

3:30
(2) Flintstones
=2= <10> Super Friends--possibly repeats of 1973-74 ABC cartoon
(4) Bugs Bunny
[6] Lassie
(7) [10] Lilias, Yoga and You
[7] FBI--rerun of 1965-74 ABC/Quinn Martin crime drama
[8] Gilligan's Island
[11] Edge of Night

3:55
(5) Spotlight Five--local; format unknown

4:00
(2) Mickey Mouse Club--syndicated rerun
[2] Bonanza
[3] Joker's Wild
(4) Gilligan's Island
[4] [10] Sesame Street
(5) Dinah!--Shore's 90-minute syndie offering that went into production a few months earlier after NBC dropped her daytime show in July 1974
[6] Star Trek--the episode where Kirk looks into an energy force on an "uncharted planet"
(7) (11) Villa Alegre
[8] Big Valley
[11] Andy Griffith

(network news info courtesy of Vanderbilt TV News Archive: http://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/)

4:30
(2) I Dream of Jeannie
=2= NBC Nightly News--John Chancellor
[3] Gambit
(4) Lucy Show
(7) Electric Company
[7] Andy Griffith
<10> CBS Evening News--Bob Schieffer (Walter Cronkite off)
(11) Mister Rogers' Neighborhood
[11] ABC Evening News--Howard K. Smith, Harry Reasoner

5:00
(2) Hogan's Heroes
[2] [3] [11] CBS Evening News
=2= (4) [6] ABC Evening News
[4] (7) [10] Mister Rogers' Neighborhood
[7] NBC Nightly News
[8] Partridge Family
<10> Film--wonder what it might have been, with only 30 minutes?
(11) Sesame Street

5:30
(2) [8] <10> NBC Nightly News
[2] KBCI News
=2= KTWO News
[3] KID News
(4) Andy Griffith
[4] [10] Villa Alegre
(5) CBS Evening News
[6] KIVI News
(7) Sesame Street
[7] KTVB News
[11] KMVT News

EVENING
6:00
(2) KUTV News
[2] Family Affair
=2= Star Trek--James Daly ("Medical Center") guested on this episode
[3] Movie--"Don't Drink the Water," 1969 (CBS prime time)
[4] [10] (11) Electric Company
(4) KCPX News
(5) KSL News
[6] High Chaparral
[7] To Tell the Truth--Henry Morgan, guest panelist
[8] KIFI News
<10> KWRB News
[11] The Waltons--probably a tape-delay (though it's sure hard to tell in the MTZ)

6:30
[2] Name That Tune--syndicated Tom Kennedy version
(4) Truth or Consequences
[4] (7) [10] Zoom
(5) [7] [8] Let's Make a Deal--syndicated (probably different episodes on each station)
<10> Untamed World--another syndie offering of that era about nature and wildlife
(11) Newsroom--local; BYU students anchoring a newscast, perhaps?

7:00
(2) [7] [8] <10> Sanford and Son
[2] (5) Movie--see KID, 6 p.m.
=2= (4) [6] [11] Boxing--ABC coverage of Muhammad Ali vs. Ron Lyle (Ali at the time was 46-2 and had been world champion since October when he beat George Foreman in the famous fight in Zaire)
[4] [10] Aviation Weather--probably PBS
(7) Consumer Survival Kit--home appliances are the subject on this night
(11) The Naturalists--profile of Theodore Roosevelt's conservationist initiatives

7:30
(2) [7] [8] <10> Chico and the Man--launched Freddie Prinze into stardom, of course
[3] Movie--"Going Home," 1971
[4] According to an Unnamed Source--PBS show about journalistic confidentiality, a hot topic after Watergate and "Deep Throat"
(7) [10] Black Perspective on the News
(11) Consumer Survival Kit

8:00
(2) [7] [8] <10> Rockford Files--"This is Jim Rockford. At the tone, leave your name and message and I'll get back with you." (remember, not everybody had answering machines then)
[4] (7) [10] Washington Week in Review--warhorse PBS political analysis show
(11) According to an Unnamed Source

8:30
[4] (7) [10] Wall $treet Week--At the time, this was the only serious financial/business report on television
[2] (5) Movie--see KID, 7:30 p.m.
(11) Kids' News--local KBYU production, with actual elementary-school children pretending to be newscasters

9:00
(2) [7] [8] <10> Police Woman--and people said cop shows weren't sexy until "Charlie's Angels" came along (!!)
[3] Mannix--about to end an eight-year run
[4] (7) [10] Masterpiece Theatre--"Upstairs, Downstairs" (rerun of first episode)
(11) Nova

9:30
=2= [11] Sanford and Son
(4) Movie--"Thief," 1971
[6] Night Stalker--Darren McGavin starred in this hybrid sci-fi/crime drama; ABC attempted a remake in 2005, but it flopped after six episodes

10:00
(2) KUTV News
[2] KBCI News
=2= KTWO News
[3] KID News
[4] Kup's Show--import from Chicago, hosted by one of that city's media fixtures, Irv Kupcinet, who was also a newspaper columnist
(7) Making It Count--described as a "20-part telecourse offering information about computers" (FYI, the Apple I was a year off, so this would have been about them in the workplace, not at home)
[10] In Performance at Wolf Trap--the New Orleans Preservation Hall Jazz Band performs at the nation's only public park devoted to arts and culture, located in Virginia outside Washington, D.C.
(11) Aviation Weather

10:30
(2) [7] [8] [11] Tonight Show--Bert Convy ("Tattletales"), guest
[2] Movie--"Valley of the Dolls," 1967
=2= Dean Martin Celebrity Roast--Michael Landon, honoree (probably tape-delayed from NBC)
[3] Movie--"Josette," 1938
[6] Combat--rerun of 1962-67 ABC World War II drama
(7) Aviation Weather
<10> Boxing--replay of Ali-Lyle fight broadcast earlier on ABC (see above)

10:40
(5) Ironside--rerun

11:00
(4) KCPX News
(7) ABC Evening News (PBS/WGBH captioned version)
[10] Lilias, Yoga and You

11:30
=2= Movie--"Dr. Ehrlich's Magic Bullet," 1940
(4) Movie--"Godzilla," Japanese, 1956 (unsure if original)
[6] Movie--"Bachelor Flat," 1962

11:40
(5) Movie--"Hush ... Hush, Sweet Charlotte," 1964

12:00 a.m.
(2) [7] [8] Midnight Special--retro episode with the likes of Chubby Checker and Bo Diddley performing late 1950s/early 1960s hits
 
Mike Stroud said:
3:30
=2= <10> Super Friends--possibly repeats of 1973-74 ABC cartoon

Super Friends wasn't yet in syndicated reruns in 1975, so this would have been a tape delay of the ABC Saturday morning broadcast of the show. If we could see the schedule for other weekdays, we'd probably see that these two stations were running a checkerboard (different shows on each day of the week) of tape-delayed children's shows.

Mike Stroud said:
5:00
<10> Film--wonder what it might have been, with only 30 minutes?

These would probably be short films that were distributed to stations free of charge, typically as promotional items that also had some educational value -- for example, a steelmaker might produce a film on the steelmaking process. For the company, it would generate some free PR, and for the station it would just fill time.

These sorts of films were often used by smaller stations, especially in marginal time periods.
 
Somebody feel free to correct me where I am wrong about the bullets....

The split-bullet is supposed to represent channels receivable by cable-only from many areas; WTCG 17 Atlanta (now TBS) had a split 1/7 in the Miami edition. I believe the Albuquerque edition had the four L.A. independent stations on cable (even before satellite TV was common) printed that way.

The horizontal-line bullet represents the 3rd most distant co-channel from the home base TV Guide---closest was always the black bullet w/ white numbers; then was the white bullet w/ black numbers; and any third co-channel had no choice but the horizontal, unless cable availability (as above).

Now to take aspirin :)

cd
 
TexasTom said:
Mike Stroud said:
3:30
=2= <10> Super Friends--possibly repeats of 1973-74 ABC cartoon

Super Friends wasn't yet in syndicated reruns in 1975, so this would have been a tape delay of the ABC Saturday morning broadcast of the show. If we could see the schedule for other weekdays, we'd probably see that these two stations were running a checkerboard (different shows on each day of the week) of tape-delayed children's shows.

You are correct, Tom. At 3:30 on the other days:

Monday: Yogi's Gang
Tuesday: Hong Kong Phooey
Wednesday: Lassie's Rescue Rangers
Thursday: Devlin
 
cd637299 said:
Somebody feel free to correct me where I am wrong about the bullets....

The split-bullet is supposed to represent channels receivable by cable-only from many areas; WTCG 17 Atlanta (now TBS) had a split 1/7 in the Miami edition. I believe the Albuquerque edition had the four L.A. independent stations on cable (even before satellite TV was common) printed that way.

The horizontal-line bullet represents the 3rd most distant co-channel from the home base TV Guide---closest was always the black bullet w/ white numbers; then was the white bullet w/ black numbers; and any third co-channel had no choice but the horizontal, unless cable availability (as above).

Now to take aspirin :)

cd

Not always true: the Minnesota state edition used the split bullet for the PBS station in the far western part of the state ( KWCM/10 ) from 1995 through the end of the traditional digest. It was the third channel 10 in the edition and technically part of the Minneapolis market, even though Appleton, MN is 150 miles due west of Minneapolis/St. Paul!
 
I don't think I have ever seen an edition with as many VHF PBS affiliates in it.

And this is an all-VHF edition, to boot.
 
DToTheJ said:
I don't think I have ever seen an edition with as many VHF PBS affiliates in it.

And this is an all-VHF edition, to boot.

True, this! I didn't even pay attention.....

I could be mistaken, but if not for ch 21 Phoenix, the Mountain time was devoid of UHF until around 1974ish!

cd
 
cd637299 said:
I could be mistaken, but if not for ch 21 Phoenix, the Mountain time was devoid of UHF until around 1974ish!

Per the 9th Edition of the Vane Jones guide (1973), KPAZ-TV 21 Phoenix AZ & KNCO 22 Ft. Collins CO were the only full-powered UHFs on the air in the Mountain time zone at that time. That doesn't include CPs or the many UHF translators in the region, though.
 
KeithE4 said:
cd637299 said:
I could be mistaken, but if not for ch 21 Phoenix, the Mountain time was devoid of UHF until around 1974ish!

Per the 9th Edition of the Vane Jones guide (1973), KPAZ-TV 21 Phoenix AZ & KNCO 22 Ft. Collins CO were the only full-powered UHFs on the air in the Mountain time zone at that time. That doesn't include CPs or the many UHF translators in the region, though.

Not to veer OT, but I think I had that Jones guide....I was never sure if that ch 22 was ever really on the air. I saw Denver editions (which I think covered all of CO), and never recalled seeing 22....of course, some stations were never carried in TVG. If it *was* on, I have no idea what their programming was.

Yes I meant full power UHFs....

cd
 
cd637299 said:
KeithE4 said:
cd637299 said:
I could be mistaken, but if not for ch 21 Phoenix, the Mountain time was devoid of UHF until around 1974ish!

Per the 9th Edition of the Vane Jones guide (1973), KPAZ-TV 21 Phoenix AZ & KNCO 22 Ft. Collins CO were the only full-powered UHFs on the air in the Mountain time zone at that time. That doesn't include CPs or the many UHF translators in the region, though.

Not to veer OT, but I think I had that Jones guide....I was never sure if that ch 22 was ever really on the air. I saw Denver editions (which I think covered all of CO), and never recalled seeing 22....of course, some stations were never carried in TVG. If it *was* on, I have no idea what their programming was.

Yes I meant full power UHFs....

cd

Boy, I am sure glad you guys are on top of things. It never once occurred to me that the region had no UHFs. The techies among you, I'm sure, understand why, because of the mountainous terrain of almost all that area (except perhaps the salt flats around SLC). With a population at the time rather small in comparison to other U.S. regions, there also wasn't the demand for additional channels, especially independents. That's the reason why cherry-picking on (or, to put it less pejoratively, "shoehorning" top-rated shows from all networks), for example, Cheyenne's KTWO and a couple of the other stations continued for a long time in the Rockies after it died out most everywhere else farther east.
 
The only editions of TV Guide that I ever saw that used the "striped bullet" were the ones that served southern Missouri, and a couple of editions in Mississippi and Louisiana. The Missouri edition had three channel 6's listed: KMOS in Sedalia (IIRC that was the striped 6), KEMV (Arkansas Public Television, licensed to Mountain View), and (I think) KOTV in Tulsa.

Also, the striped bullet was used to represent KNOE-8 in Monroe, LA, in editions that served southern Mississippi and southern Louisiana.
 
As in many areas, things have changed. I notice that the Pocatello NBC affiliate basically simulcasted the Boise affiliate. That seems so small-time. Eastern Idaho eventually became a three affiliate market, with local news out of all three, but guess what? Now, the CBS affiliate, (KIDK), has merged with the ABC affiliate (KIFI), and their news operation is combined. One step forward, one backward.
 
Charles1 said:
The only editions of TV Guide that I ever saw that used the "striped bullet" were the ones that served southern Missouri, and a couple of editions in Mississippi and Louisiana.

I've also saw striped bullets used in the Montana and Alberta editions -- Montana to represent the Salt lake City channels, and Alberta for the Spokane channels.

searadiofreak said:
I notice that the Pocatello NBC affiliate basically simulcasted the Boise affiliate. That seems so small-time.

At the time, KPVI was the sister station to KIVI, which both simulcasted ABC and most syndicated programs. At one point, KPVI could be sold to another party, and eventually changing affiliations from ABC to NBC, with KIFI taking the ABC affiliation. (KIVI is still affiliated with ABC today.)
 
Yes, understood. My main point is the big three competition is becoming irrelevant in many smaller markets.
 
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