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Retuning a fm circular antenna

On this topic, many theories exist. How would you proceed to retune a 4 bay circular fm antenna UP in frequency by approx 1.5 Mhz, and what is the minimum
test equipment to do a creditable job? Procedures? ( Mind you, this is not one of the old horizontal antennas of the early 60's-70's that had variable plates on each arm). This is a first for a move of this magnitude for me. Thanks JBI
 
Just did an ERI & the freq change was 2.6mhz. ERI sent a climber with some slugs, which were installed in the antenna, readings taken & sent to ERI. ERI directed the tower crew as to exact placement of said slugs. 4 hours later, 3.9KW forward, 3 watts reflected & it's a blowtorch. I suggest calling the factory for guidance. The last thing you want is to get it screwed up to the point you're off the air or at very low power. All antennas are different...a call to the factory is free. That's where I would start.
 
Yeh! Step one is a call to the gurus. Often they have already put the same model antenna on the frequency you're headed for, and can give you 'ballpark' settings for the matching system, whether it is a slugged transformer section (A la ERI) or a tuneable fine match section (A la Shiveley and some others). They can also tell you if you need to change elements on the antenna. ERI for instance makes more than one loop diameter to cover the band. Some frequency moves require a loop change for best results. Given the importance of the antenna in the great scheme of things, I would call the gurus and (probably) have them come make it right. In the long run it's the least expensive course of action to get it right. Also, array bandwidth is of importance - if the design is fairly broadband, it should tweak up reasonably easily, while a narrowband array may take somewhat more doing to get the reactances out of it across the opassband you are going to want. What kind of antenna are we talking about here?
 
Gary Minker of Radio Works is an expert in this sort of thing. www.radioworksrfconsulting.com

Got him to retune our combiner system, and all of the transmitter stages for a frequency change. Everything was better than when it first came from the factory after his retuning.

CALL FM/Rob
 
I have retuned many in the field and in the driveway including PD, ERI ring-stub (Collins), MCI twin-V, Jampro penetrator, Bext and other LPFM ring-stub types as well as yagi arrays for translators.

If it has full wave spacing and hard-line interbay lines, its pretty easy.
If it has a power divider and flexible lines its not hard if you can get to the bays easily for tuning.
If its not full wave spaced and has hard-line interbay lines, I would not try it. Also directionals are not on the menu.

ERI rototiller antennas are supposedly good for about 4 mhz (108-104, 104-100, 100-96, 96-92, 92-88) without changing anything except the location and number of the "donuts" in the matching section.
I can't help you with that, since the tower crew does that after install based on Network Analyzer data and Smith chart. You need a "real" engineer for that.

If it has hard-line interbay lines and a stub-matching section __I__I__I__ at the bottom you can probably just adjust the bottom and middle stub for best match (for a 1.5 mhz move) with pretty good results. Use an exciter, and a Bird wattmeter to get close and then tweak the bottom stub for best match at full power.

If it uses a power divider and flexible lines to the bays, you will have to retune each bay (usually for 50 ohms +/- j0) to get the impedance right at the input to the power divider. If you can do that, then the length of the lines is immaterial (as long as they are all the same length!).

If you can take it off the tower and rebuild it on the ground you can get the best results. I mount it on sawhorses about 2 feet off the ground with the bays up. Hose clamps, vise grips (careful!) and woodworking clamps are very helpful in getting things to stay in place.

Hard line interbay lines need to be adjusted for length to prevent unwanted "beam tilt" (if you are moving very far).
A move UP in frequency requires shorter, and a move down requires stretching them (replace with longer). Air lines have a velocity factor close to 1, so (11,820 / Freq in mhz) gets you a full wavelength spacing (in inches) between where the bays attach. For a thorough job, the bays need to be adjusted also. Use the above formula, then divide by 2 to get a half-wavelength for the bay elements.

Measure everything before changing, compare to the existing frequency, then adapt/check that ratio to the new frequency. The calculator is your friend.

If they have a stub tuner, adjust your loops, lenghts, etc. in unison for the best SWR without the tuner attached. Then the tuner can be tweaked to get a good 50 ohm match for the coax.

I use the MFJ impedance bridge for this work when I am away from other transmitters, but it is useless if there is any other transmitter operating nearby. Generally speaking, the length of the radiating elements will determine the frequency where reactance is closest to zero (resonant frequency), and the length and location of the loops or feed connections will determine the resistance.

You can also use the MFJ to get a good idea of bandwidth by checking how far you can go before the SWR rises to say 1.5:1.
An agile exciter and bird wattmeter can also be used for this.

Good luck.
 
Slim's advice is right on, I've retuned several antennas on the ground using the same technique. Of course, if you have access to a VHF bridge or network analyzer (and understand Smith Charts) it will make the job easier. Here are some hints on adjusting the ERI "slug" tuner:

http://www.scott-inc.com/html/eri.htm

I suggest you give Sinan or one of his techs at Armstrong a call. If the antenna has a fine-matcher, this shouldn't be difficult. Manufacturing of their low power FM bays was once subbed out to a machine shop in East Syracuse, so the design may be a bit different than SWR's.
 
To say that Armstrong was less than helpful is an understatement. It will not deter my efforts to make the change,....and if not successful,
copper and brass does have some value. Thanks JBI
 
Yes, Larry, I detected that. I have two SWR antennas and immediately noticed the difference. BUT...I have enough test equipment that I think will see me thru...and thank you for your generous donation to "Radio Angelica" in Honduras SA. Best....JBI
 
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