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Rice accepts STL host's apology

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Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Sunday that she forgave St. Louis talk radio host Dave Lenihan, who was immediately fired last week after he referred to her as "a big coon."

Asked if she was surprised that "this kind of thing still happens" in America, Dr. Rice told "Fox News Sunday's" Chris Wallace: "My understanding is that he apologized, that he didn't mean it."

"I accept that," she said. "Because we all say things from time to time that we shouldn't say or didn't mean to say. And so I accept it."

Broadcasting on KTRS, Lenihan got into trouble on Wednesday while discussing Rice's often-stated ambition to one day become chancellor of the National Football League.

"She's been chancellor of Stanford," he argued, praising Dr. Rice. "She's got the patent resume of somebody that has serious skill. She loves football. She's African-American, which would kind of be a big coon. A big coon. Oh my God. I am totally, totally, totally, totally, totally sorry for that."

Within 20 minutes KTRS's program director announced on-the-air that Lenihan had been terminated, calling the slip "unacceptable, reprehensible and unforgivable." <P ID="signature">______________
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Flashback: Miami host's anti-Condi song

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2003/10/1/232257.shtml

2003: A radio personality in Miami, described by NewsMax as an anti-Bush
liberal, repeatedly played a racist anti-Condi song and only had to
apologize for it (was not fired; and the apology came only after repeated
pressure from a Chicago talk host). As I understand it, the STL host is
conservative and was in the process of praising Rice when he made the
(apparent) slip-up
 
Re: Flashback: Miami host's anti-Condi song

> But if MediaMatters, the Center for American Progress, Keith
> Olbermann, or Al Franken's blog says it's true, then it must
> be gospel.

Mediamatters simply quotes what the person said. That's what burns O'Reilly. He claims he never said something and then mediamatters produces the audio file proving him wrong. The majority of content on mediamatters is simply transcripts without commentary. I don't read Center for American Progress or Al Franken's blog (I don't read most blogs anyway) so I don't hold either one as anything. Keith Olbermann doesn't want anyone to take him as gospel, so I don't. But it would be unfair to call him an anti-Bush partisan, considering the spent more than 200 consecutive shows in the late 1990s doing NOTHING but Monica Lewinsky stories. He challenges power - regardless of power.

Newsmax is a partisan conservative news source run by conservative operatives, funded in part by Richard Mellon Scaife, who is about as partisan as you can get. Chris Ruddy is a Scaife protege, having worked at his newspaper. Their record of accuracy on many issues has been questionable at best. I have yet to see anybody treat Newsmax as anything other than a partisan news source anyway.
 
Re: Flashback: Miami host's anti-Condi song

> But if MediaMatters, the Center for American Progress, Keith
> Olbermann, or Al Franken's blog says it's true, then it must
> be gospel.

You catch on quickly. <P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Flashback: Miami host's anti-Condi song

> Mediamatters simply quotes what the person said. That's
> what burns O'Reilly.

Drudge mostly links to other news outlets.<P ID="signature">______________
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Remember the Barney Frank incident?

> Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Sunday that she
> forgave St. Louis talk radio host Dave Lenihan, who was
> immediately fired last week after he referred to her as "a
> big coon."

This reminds me of the 1995 Barney Frank incident. Majority leader Dick Armey made a stir when he referred to Frank, who is openly gay, as "Barney f-a-g" in a press interview. Armey apologized and claimed it was a slip of the tongue.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Flashback: Miami host's anti-Condi song

> Drudge mostly links to other news outlets.

When referring to Drudge (which I didn't - you did), people who complain about his "reporting" aren't referring to his ASCII link pages to other news sources. They are complaining about his infamous own reporting, which often turns out to be W R O N G. His Walter Winchell act includes, for no additional charge, his penchant for totally inaccurate reporting.

Developing....
 
Re: Flashback: Miami host's anti-Condi song

You don't read most blogs but you do read Brian Maloney (and post comments).

Newsmax is partisan? And you are not? Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.
 
I've read the quote and heard the tape.

This guy is a rank amateur. Just his grammar and vocabulary are laughable. He sounds like some punk sports-head. I don't care what grand professional he may be away from the mic, on mic he sounds like an idiot. His rambling, repetitive blunder and apology reminds me of what happens when you put someone on the air who hasn't the foggiest idea how to do an even reasonably professional show.

"I am totally, totally, totally, totally, totally...."

What a dolt.
 
Re: Flashback: Miami host's anti-Condi song

> When referring to Drudge (which I didn't - you did)

Yes, I did.

> people who complain about his "reporting" aren't referring to his
> ASCII link pages to other news sources. They are
> complaining about his infamous own reporting, which often
> turns out to be W R O N G.

Since Drudge originates so little or his own reporting, those people who complain are really pissed because he links to news that is inconvenient to their point of view. And much of his reporting turns out to be R I G H T.

> His Walter Winchell act includes, for no additional charge, his penchant for totally inaccurate reporting.

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Re: Flashback: Miami host's anti-Condi song

> > >
> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2003/10/1/232257.shtml
> > >
> > > 2003: A radio personality in Miami, described by NewsMax
>
> >
> > And the story ends right there as soon as the word NewsMax
>
> > comes into play.
>
> But if MediaMatters, the Center for American Progress, Keith
> Olbermann, or Al Franken's blog says it's true, then it must
> be gospel.
>
Yup...all a matter of where you're coming from on the political spectrum
and what you believe. Surely there's some BS on both sides (and
I don't mean C...BS) but also more than a bit of true stuff on both sides.
You can't just say anything from a right-wing site is a bunch of
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Re: Flashback: Miami host's anti-Condi song

> You don't read most blogs but you do read Brian Maloney (and
> post comments).

Actually I don't visit his site. People carry in his nonsense and post it here.

> Newsmax is partisan?

Yeah, are you denying it?

> And you are not? Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.

That assumes I claimed I wasn't partisan. I never said that. You aren't either. Everyone with an opinion is partisan.
 
Re: Flashback: Miami host's anti-Condi song

> Since Drudge originates so little or his own reporting,
> those people who complain are really pissed because he links
> to news that is inconvenient to their point of view. And
> much of his reporting turns out to be R I G H T.

Who are these people? Sounds more like you're inventing your argument as you go along. Drudge links to left and right leaning sources. Nobody cares about his links. People care about his original reporting. Drudge has issued boners about John Kerry affairs that never happened, reports about Randi Rhodes being investigated by the Secret Service that were denied by them, as well as the thousands of results you can dredge up by Google.

Back a few years ago, Brill's Content actually measured Drudge's accuracy based on an entire month of his original reporting. They found:

In the 51 stories that he claimed as exclusives from January to September 1998, the magazine found 31 were actually exclusive stories. Of those, 32% were untrue or never happened, 36 were true and the remaining 32% were of debatable accuracy or still unknown.

That's hardly a record to be proud of.

> If errors in reporting is reason to discredit a news outlet,
> then The New York Times is thorougly discredited.

After Judith Miller's drumbeating for war along with a general laziness among a lot of the nation's media to run pieces without fact checking, you and I can agree on that. I think higher standards are in order all around.
 
Correct on one point

> Newsmax is a partisan conservative news source run by
> conservative operatives, funded in part by Richard Mellon
> Scaife, who is about as partisan as you can get. Chris
> Ruddy is a Scaife protege, having worked at his newspaper.
> Their record of accuracy on many issues has been
> questionable at best. I have yet to see anybody treat
> Newsmax as anything other than a partisan news source
> anyway.

I've never been to Newsmax, but being in talk radio I get emails telling me about these polls they take all the time... 93% of people oppose this or that, thanks to some email campaign they did to get their supporters to vote. Yeah, like Newsmax's mailing list provides such a representative sample of the population, yet they "provide the results to all major media outlets and every talk host in America" like its some huge deal.
 
Re: Flashback: Miami host's anti-Condi song

> > Drudge mostly links to other news outlets.
>
> When referring to Drudge (which I didn't - you did), people
> who complain about his "reporting" aren't referring to his
> ASCII link pages to other news sources. They are
> complaining about his infamous own reporting, which often
> turns out to be W R O N G. His Walter Winchell act
> includes, for no additional charge, his penchant for totally
> inaccurate reporting.

Well, while I might say he had to have been right about something at sometime to become who he is, the fact is he got what he wanted - to become famous. Relevant to this site, that fame helped him land a gig with Premiere Radio. Sure, no one's listening to AM radio Sunday at midnight, but he's got the credentials of being on 200+ of the biggest name radio stations in America. People love to make fun of the Drudges, Donald Trumps, et al, but the joke's really on us, as we keep posting about them and feeding to their fixation.
 
Re: Flashback: Miami host's anti-Condi song

> Back a few years ago, Brill's Content actually measured Drudge's accuracy based > on an entire month of his original reporting.

LOL! That would be like me citing The Washington Times Poll as a source to back up an assertion that mediamatters.org is inaccurate. Surely you know Steve Brill's a lefty.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Flashback: Miami host's anti-Condi song

> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2003/10/1/232257.shtml
>
> 2003: A radio personality in Miami, described by NewsMax as
> an anti-Bush
> liberal, repeatedly played a racist anti-Condi song and only
> had to
> apologize for it (was not fired; and the apology came only
> after repeated
> pressure from a Chicago talk host). As I understand it, the
> STL host is
> conservative and was in the process of praising Rice when he
> made the
> (apparent) slip-up
>
Part of this story is true. The host they are referring to was Neil Rogers on WQAM. I listen to Neil nearly daily and yes he hates Bush and is certainly a liberal. But the bit on Condi (which I remember him paying) was not anything different then other bits he has been playing for years. Neil basically rips EVERYONE a new one. His nearly daily refernce to SWILLARY Clinton should calm people down.
 
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