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Rimshots or weak signals that outkick their coverage

Is there any town in the US that you like?
I'm like Kelly: there is not a small town I've been in that I would like to live in. Tried it, hated it. And I am sure plenty of small town people would hate living in a bigger city.
 
What did you hate about it?
Everything from lack of any exciting events such as shows, concerts and the like. Small educational facilities, mostly community colleges with nothing interesting for residents looking to take any kind of advanced classes or things like another language. Lack of medical specialists, Walmart is the best store, few if any better restaurants, etc.
 
Everything from lack of any exciting events such as shows, concerts and the like. Small educational facilities, mostly community colleges with nothing interesting for residents looking to take any kind of advanced classes or things like another language. Lack of medical specialists, Walmart is the best store, few if any better restaurants, etc.

Laramie has enough places to eat, and good ones at that.. that you could eat lunch and dinner at a different place each time for several weeks, if not a month or more and not get a repeat
 
. And I am sure plenty of small town people would hate living in a bigger city.

ding! thats me.

cocoa, fl was too much for me at 15,000 people or so.

5000 or less is what i prefer

Well.... you see where i am now lol
 
What a fallacy. Audio processing doesn't attract listeners. The worst case is it drives them away.
What is not evident to many who have grown up in a digital era is that the original purpose of audio processing was to prevent stations... AM at the time.. from over-modulating. Since overmodulation on AM causes carrier suppression which sounds rather dreadful, there was an interest in preventing it.

The first audio processing supplemented the work of the board operator at the studio. It prevented occasional peaks as well as quickly reducing changes in level in a program while the board op manually reacted a bit more slowly.

As the competition advanced, broadcasters realized that, beyond peak control, they could increase the average level with AGC. One of the motivations came from the increase in cars with radios in the 50's. In cars, low levels meant that road and car noise would overwhelm low audio passages. So during the 50s we got a lot of early AGC and peak limiters that worked together.

When CBS Labs produced the Audimax and Volumax in the later 50's, there was a significant jump in audio control. Stations realized that processing made them sound louder than the next guy on the dial, and the battle to create square waves was on

Nobody realized that there was a point at which there was too much processing and the audio became annoying.
 
what a fallacy. Audio processing doesn't attract listeners. The worst case is it drives them away.

And we work to make sure our processing doesnt drive away listeners.
 
Everything from lack of any exciting events such as shows, concerts and the like. Small educational facilities, mostly community colleges with nothing interesting for residents looking to take any kind of advanced classes or things like another language. Lack of medical specialists, Walmart is the best store, few if any better restaurants, etc.
Pretty much my reaction as a 10-year-old when my family moved from Albuquerque to...a town of under 800 people in Iowa just a few miles north of the Missouri border. The next year, we moved to the county seat with a whopping 6,000 people. Even in those days, a lot of things required at least a drive to Ottumwa and often to Des Moines. I hated it. And this was more than half a century ago.

My Des Moines relatives now complain that, to get the kind of airline service they want at all, they have to drive to Kansas City or even Chicago in some cases...which I find a bit ironic.

I even got frustrated with my original hometown, where Missouri's major state university is located along with two smaller colleges. So there are more cultural amenities than you'd expect in what's become a small city of over 100,000 people. There are some good restaurants, too. But commercial shopping is definitely middlebrow, which isn't surprising considering that Sam Walton went to high school and college there; social life away from the campus is rather stultifying; and just five miles out of the city, the vibe is definitely somewhat rural. in grad school, I found myself making the two-hour drives to Kansas City or St. Louis a lot.

On the other hand, the cousin who's nearest my age found my hometown to be too overwhelming. He dropped out of the University of Missouri, finished at a state university in a small community, and has been the head janitor of his hometown high school for 35 years. Despite our very different perspectives, we're on very good terms. He likes it in his north Missouri town. I couldn't stand it for more than a day.
 
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Ah, so you're saying that the competition does?

KCGY 95.1 absolutely does. Multiple ladies in town have told me that the station is aggravating to listen to and they cant listen for long... they have the audio processing and RDS cranked up so much i could hear RDS data on 95.0 and 95,2
 
KCGY 95.1 absolutely does. Multiple ladies in town have told me that the station is aggravating to listen to and they cant listen for long... they have the audio processing and RDS cranked up so much i could hear RDS data on 95.0 and 95,2
I don't know physically how that's possible. RDS is at 57kHz, and there is only so much injection level that an RDS generator will output. Certainly not enough to deviate into the L+R side of the carrier.
 
I don't know physically how that's possible. RDS is at 57kHz, and there is only so much injection level that an RDS generator will output. Certainly not enough to deviate into the L+R side of the carrier.

WEll, whatever it is... KCGY has something cranked up so darn high and loud and crunched i could hear something, some kind of data.
 
WAKY FM Louisville KY. COL of station is Radcliff. 60 DB only covers the southern half of market. I am not sure if they are also counting 620 and it's FM translators. #2 (6+) should have something in money demos. They beat WHAS which most likely has old demos too.
In Nielsen, a fully simulcast station combo of two or more sources can opt for "single line reporting" where all are combined in a single ratings listing.
 
I'm answering my own thread. I was looking at the ratings for Atlanta. There are several top-tier stations that come from 40 and 50 miles out.
97.1 The River is usually #1. 104.7 The Fish does well. Also Kiss 104.1 and Majic 97.5/107.5.*

On the opposite side, full power class C signals like Star 94, Q99.7, Power 96.1, Kicks 101.5, 94.9 The Bull are much farther back.

*The rimshots mentioned have formats of Classic Rock, Contemporary Christian, Adult R&B. Those formats aren't available on the in-town C's.
Atlanta's sprawl in the direction of the rimshots likely aids.
 
In the dictionary under urban sprawl it should say "see Atlanta". Some of the sprawl came from school integration in the 1960's &1970's (white flight). The north side's white population grew faster because of the airport and it's noise on the Southside. The fear of crime and the one cent additional sales tax has made it difficult for Marta (Metropolitan Atlanta Regional Transit Authority) to be voted in on the Northern Counties. Then you layer in a state DOT that traditionally funded South GA projects more than Atlanta projects plus the overall growth and Atlanta capitalizing from the Birmingham Church Bombing and the Atlanta airport's internation connections you have the perfect storm for bad traffic. Just recently GA does road funding equally in the Congressional Districts. Maybe in fifty years the roads around here might become usable all hours of the day.

Also when the original FM allocations were done Atlanta didn't have the population it does now. Two of the inside of the perimeter "big "C's" are early "move ins". 94.1 started in its COL Smyrna and 101.5 is licensed to Marietta. For some reason Decatur didn't get a "C" allocation.
 
Also when the original FM allocations were done Atlanta didn't have the population it does now. Two of the inside of the perimeter "big "C's" are early "move ins". 94.1 started in its COL Smyrna and 101.5 is licensed to Marietta. For some reason Decatur didn't get a "C" allocation.
Exactly. Time didn't stop in 1979.
 
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