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RIP Buck Owens

Re: To add to your post...plus an interesting general observation

Didn't Jim Reeves, Eddy Arnold, and Patsy Cline release bubblegum country in the late 50s and early 60s? Today's country purists wouldn't think so, but they did back then...that's my point.


> its not a double standard. they didnt turn all the music
> into bubblegum country for mid 20s females so the big
> stations could make more bucks!! i love buck owens music.
> its not about crossover. its about the music today sucks!!
> except for hank 3, shooter jennings and cross canadian
> ragweed to name a few good artists..
>
>
>
> > Add me to the list of Buck Owens admirers. Not only did
> he
> > have a tremendous impact on country music, he also had
> some
> > influence on artists outside of country music. The
> Beatles,
> > especially George Harrison and Ringo Starr, were fans and
> > the Beatles covered "Act Naturally" with Ringo on vocals.
>
> > It's interesting to listen to the "Beatles For Sale" CD,
> > especially "I Don't Want To Spoil The Party" and hear a
> bit
> > of the Buck Owens sound from the Fab Four. Also, the
> > legendary lead guitarist for the Ventures, Nokie Edwards,
> > once played in Buck's band (along with original Ventures
> > drummer Howie Johnston).
> >
> > As for my interesting observation...Buck did a lot to go
> > against the country music conventions of the day such as
> > introducing the Fender Telecaster, a louder twang-ier
> guitar
> > to country music and Buck's music emphasised a more guitar
>
> > oriented and less steel guitar oriented sound giving his
> > music a more aggressive rock n roll oriented approach to
> > country music (and he took from flak for that as well as
> > recording "Johnny B. Goode"). The point here is that, in
> > his day, Buck Owens was an innovative artist that fused
> some
> > elements of rock n' roll with country music and managed to
>
> > ruffle some feathers of country music purists at the time,
>
> > but is now revered as a legend today (and rightfully so).
>
> > Yet the same people from Buck's generation who revere Buck
>
> > Owens as a legend decry the changes that modern artists
> have
> > made to country music...changes that probably aren't as
> > drastic as the ones Buck made. It's a double-standard.
>
> >
> >
> > > The first album I ever bought as a kid was the "Tiger by
>
> > the
> > > Tail" LP. Even as a kid I could tell how different the
> > Buck
> > > Owens sound was from everything else played on country
> > music
> > > radio shows. (In 1965 in my area there were no country
> > > stations, just shows on block-programmed stations.)
> Buck
> > > Owens songs stood out from the Nashville Sound
> > orchestrated
> > > songs of the day. That Buck and Don Rich harmony was
> > > unmatched. Hee Haw made him a household name with even
> > > non-country fans but his music career has been under
> > > overshadowed by the Hee Haw years. Glad he had a
> comeback
> > > with the Dwight Yoakam duet and his nightclub. Buck
> Owens
> > -
> > > my first favorite singer - will be missed!
> > >
> >
>
 
Re: To add to your post...plus an interesting general observation

fyi..i dont like those three artists..but they didnt try and destroy a form of music..patsy cline was friends with loretta who is real country!! and the main diffrence between then and now..you guys want play hank..back then they played all the country music..not just the top 10 well tested female targeted songs..doesnt matter keith i have xm!! i have xm 10 america..the true sound of country is alive and well. no need for fm country..btw where i work the three females there..there favorite country band cross canadian ragweed..they are in their thirties and hate clear channel country..ie..radio pop..



> Didn't Jim Reeves, Eddy Arnold, and Patsy Cline release
> bubblegum country in the late 50s and early 60s? Today's
> country purists wouldn't think so, but they did back
> then...that's my point.
>
>
> > its not a double standard. they didnt turn all the music
> > into bubblegum country for mid 20s females so the big
> > stations could make more bucks!! i love buck owens music.
> > its not about crossover. its about the music today sucks!!
>
> > except for hank 3, shooter jennings and cross canadian
> > ragweed to name a few good artists..
> >
> >
> >
> > > Add me to the list of Buck Owens admirers. Not only did
>
> > he
> > > have a tremendous impact on country music, he also had
> > some
> > > influence on artists outside of country music. The
> > Beatles,
> > > especially George Harrison and Ringo Starr, were fans
> and
> > > the Beatles covered "Act Naturally" with Ringo on
> vocals.
> >
> > > It's interesting to listen to the "Beatles For Sale" CD,
>
> > > especially "I Don't Want To Spoil The Party" and hear a
> > bit
> > > of the Buck Owens sound from the Fab Four. Also, the
> > > legendary lead guitarist for the Ventures, Nokie
> Edwards,
> > > once played in Buck's band (along with original Ventures
>
> > > drummer Howie Johnston).
> > >
> > > As for my interesting observation...Buck did a lot to go
>
> > > against the country music conventions of the day such as
>
> > > introducing the Fender Telecaster, a louder twang-ier
> > guitar
> > > to country music and Buck's music emphasised a more
> guitar
> >
> > > oriented and less steel guitar oriented sound giving his
>
> > > music a more aggressive rock n roll oriented approach to
>
> > > country music (and he took from flak for that as well
> as
> > > recording "Johnny B. Goode"). The point here is that,
> in
> > > his day, Buck Owens was an innovative artist that fused
> > some
> > > elements of rock n' roll with country music and managed
> to
> >
> > > ruffle some feathers of country music purists at the
> time,
> >
> > > but is now revered as a legend today (and rightfully
> so).
> >
> > > Yet the same people from Buck's generation who revere
> Buck
> >
> > > Owens as a legend decry the changes that modern artists
> > have
> > > made to country music...changes that probably aren't as
> > > drastic as the ones Buck made. It's a double-standard.
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > The first album I ever bought as a kid was the "Tiger
> by
> >
> > > the
> > > > Tail" LP. Even as a kid I could tell how different
> the
> > > Buck
> > > > Owens sound was from everything else played on country
>
> > > music
> > > > radio shows. (In 1965 in my area there were no
> country
> > > > stations, just shows on block-programmed stations.)
> > Buck
> > > > Owens songs stood out from the Nashville Sound
> > > orchestrated
> > > > songs of the day. That Buck and Don Rich harmony was
> > > > unmatched. Hee Haw made him a household name with
> even
> > > > non-country fans but his music career has been under
> > > > overshadowed by the Hee Haw years. Glad he had a
> > comeback
> > > > with the Dwight Yoakam duet and his nightclub. Buck
> > Owens
> > > -
> > > > my first favorite singer - will be missed!
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
 
Re: To add to your post...plus an interesting general observation

Oh come on, read up on your country music history. Country music purists routinely accused producers like Chet Atkins and Owen Bradley (producers of the three artists I mentioned) for ruining country music because they added pop influenced string and vocal arrangements. I've been in country radio for 20 years now, so I go back to a time when we played artists like Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings, George Jones, etc. and also got criticized for NOT playing older artists like Eddy Arnold, Jim Reeves, Patsy Cline, etc. It's true that the sound of the format is different now than it was 20 years ago, just as it's true that the sound of the format 20 years ago was different than the sound of the format 20 years prior to it. 20 years from now, the format will sound different than it does today and today's listeners will criticize country radio because they don't play Tim McGraw, Kenny Chesney or Keith Urban anymore.

As for your co-workers, congratulations for having co-workers who are more musicially sophisticated than normal. Most of the people I hang around with don't listen to country music at all.

> fyi..i dont like those three artists..but they didnt try and
> destroy a form of music..patsy cline was friends with
> loretta who is real country!! and the main diffrence
> between then and now..you guys want play hank..back then
> they played all the country music..not just the top 10 well
> tested female targeted songs..doesnt matter keith i have
> xm!! i have xm 10 america..the true sound of country is
> alive and well. no need for fm country..btw where i work the
> three females there..there favorite country band cross
> canadian ragweed..they are in their thirties and hate clear
> channel country..ie..radio pop..
>
>
>
> > Didn't Jim Reeves, Eddy Arnold, and Patsy Cline release
> > bubblegum country in the late 50s and early 60s? Today's
> > country purists wouldn't think so, but they did back
> > then...that's my point.
> >
> >
> > > its not a double standard. they didnt turn all the music
>
> > > into bubblegum country for mid 20s females so the big
> > > stations could make more bucks!! i love buck owens
> music.
> > > its not about crossover. its about the music today
> sucks!!
> >
> > > except for hank 3, shooter jennings and cross canadian
> > > ragweed to name a few good artists..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Add me to the list of Buck Owens admirers. Not only
> did
> >
> > > he
> > > > have a tremendous impact on country music, he also had
>
> > > some
> > > > influence on artists outside of country music. The
> > > Beatles,
> > > > especially George Harrison and Ringo Starr, were fans
> > and
> > > > the Beatles covered "Act Naturally" with Ringo on
> > vocals.
> > >
> > > > It's interesting to listen to the "Beatles For Sale"
> CD,
> >
> > > > especially "I Don't Want To Spoil The Party" and hear
> a
> > > bit
> > > > of the Buck Owens sound from the Fab Four. Also, the
> > > > legendary lead guitarist for the Ventures, Nokie
> > Edwards,
> > > > once played in Buck's band (along with original
> Ventures
> >
> > > > drummer Howie Johnston).
> > > >
> > > > As for my interesting observation...Buck did a lot to
> go
> >
> > > > against the country music conventions of the day such
> as
> >
> > > > introducing the Fender Telecaster, a louder twang-ier
> > > guitar
> > > > to country music and Buck's music emphasised a more
> > guitar
> > >
> > > > oriented and less steel guitar oriented sound giving
> his
> >
> > > > music a more aggressive rock n roll oriented approach
> to
> >
> > > > country music (and he took from flak for that as well
>
> > as
> > > > recording "Johnny B. Goode"). The point here is that,
>
> > in
> > > > his day, Buck Owens was an innovative artist that
> fused
> > > some
> > > > elements of rock n' roll with country music and
> managed
> > to
> > >
> > > > ruffle some feathers of country music purists at the
> > time,
> > >
> > > > but is now revered as a legend today (and rightfully
> > so).
> > >
> > > > Yet the same people from Buck's generation who revere
> > Buck
> > >
> > > > Owens as a legend decry the changes that modern
> artists
> > > have
> > > > made to country music...changes that probably aren't
> as
> > > > drastic as the ones Buck made. It's a
> double-standard.
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > The first album I ever bought as a kid was the
> "Tiger
> > by
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > Tail" LP. Even as a kid I could tell how different
> > the
> > > > Buck
> > > > > Owens sound was from everything else played on
> country
> >
> > > > music
> > > > > radio shows. (In 1965 in my area there were no
> > country
> > > > > stations, just shows on block-programmed stations.)
>
> > > Buck
> > > > > Owens songs stood out from the Nashville Sound
> > > > orchestrated
> > > > > songs of the day. That Buck and Don Rich harmony
> was
> > > > > unmatched. Hee Haw made him a household name with
> > even
> > > > > non-country fans but his music career has been under
>
> > > > > overshadowed by the Hee Haw years. Glad he had a
> > > comeback
> > > > > with the Dwight Yoakam duet and his nightclub. Buck
>
> > > Owens
> > > > -
> > > > > my first favorite singer - will be missed!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
 
Re: To add to your post...plus an interesting general observation

as i have tried to get across..this has nothing at all to do with what was considered pop or country in 1962..this is about the fact that today in 2006. country radio doesnt give a rats ass about anything but sappy pop music that is in no was near country music. if there was also some country music on country radio i wouldnt care but there is no country music on country radio. so please stop calling it country radio..its not!!



> Oh come on, read up on your country music history. Country
> music purists routinely accused producers like Chet Atkins
> and Owen Bradley (producers of the three artists I
> mentioned) for ruining country music because they added pop
> influenced string and vocal arrangements. I've been in
> country radio for 20 years now, so I go back to a time when
> we played artists like Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, Waylon
> Jennings, George Jones, etc. and also got criticized for NOT
> playing older artists like Eddy Arnold, Jim Reeves, Patsy
> Cline, etc. It's true that the sound of the format is
> different now than it was 20 years ago, just as it's true
> that the sound of the format 20 years ago was different than
> the sound of the format 20 years prior to it. 20 years from
> now, the format will sound different than it does today and
> today's listeners will criticize country radio because they
> don't play Tim McGraw, Kenny Chesney or Keith Urban anymore.
>
>
> As for your co-workers, congratulations for having
> co-workers who are more musicially sophisticated than
> normal. Most of the people I hang around with don't listen
> to country music at all.
>
> > fyi..i dont like those three artists..but they didnt try
> and
> > destroy a form of music..patsy cline was friends with
> > loretta who is real country!! and the main diffrence
> > between then and now..you guys want play hank..back then
> > they played all the country music..not just the top 10
> well
> > tested female targeted songs..doesnt matter keith i have
> > xm!! i have xm 10 america..the true sound of country is
> > alive and well. no need for fm country..btw where i work
> the
> > three females there..there favorite country band cross
> > canadian ragweed..they are in their thirties and hate
> clear
> > channel country..ie..radio pop..
> >
> >
> >
> > > Didn't Jim Reeves, Eddy Arnold, and Patsy Cline release
> > > bubblegum country in the late 50s and early 60s?
> Today's
> > > country purists wouldn't think so, but they did back
> > > then...that's my point.
> > >
> > >
> > > > its not a double standard. they didnt turn all the
> music
> >
> > > > into bubblegum country for mid 20s females so the big
> > > > stations could make more bucks!! i love buck owens
> > music.
> > > > its not about crossover. its about the music today
> > sucks!!
> > >
> > > > except for hank 3, shooter jennings and cross canadian
>
> > > > ragweed to name a few good artists..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Add me to the list of Buck Owens admirers. Not only
>
> > did
> > >
> > > > he
> > > > > have a tremendous impact on country music, he also
> had
> >
> > > > some
> > > > > influence on artists outside of country music. The
> > > > Beatles,
> > > > > especially George Harrison and Ringo Starr, were
> fans
> > > and
> > > > > the Beatles covered "Act Naturally" with Ringo on
> > > vocals.
> > > >
> > > > > It's interesting to listen to the "Beatles For Sale"
>
> > CD,
> > >
> > > > > especially "I Don't Want To Spoil The Party" and
> hear
> > a
> > > > bit
> > > > > of the Buck Owens sound from the Fab Four. Also,
> the
> > > > > legendary lead guitarist for the Ventures, Nokie
> > > Edwards,
> > > > > once played in Buck's band (along with original
> > Ventures
> > >
> > > > > drummer Howie Johnston).
> > > > >
> > > > > As for my interesting observation...Buck did a lot
> to
> > go
> > >
> > > > > against the country music conventions of the day
> such
> > as
> > >
> > > > > introducing the Fender Telecaster, a louder
> twang-ier
> > > > guitar
> > > > > to country music and Buck's music emphasised a more
> > > guitar
> > > >
> > > > > oriented and less steel guitar oriented sound giving
>
> > his
> > >
> > > > > music a more aggressive rock n roll oriented
> approach
> > to
> > >
> > > > > country music (and he took from flak for that as
> well
> >
> > > as
> > > > > recording "Johnny B. Goode"). The point here is
> that,
> >
> > > in
> > > > > his day, Buck Owens was an innovative artist that
> > fused
> > > > some
> > > > > elements of rock n' roll with country music and
> > managed
> > > to
> > > >
> > > > > ruffle some feathers of country music purists at the
>
> > > time,
> > > >
> > > > > but is now revered as a legend today (and rightfully
>
> > > so).
> > > >
> > > > > Yet the same people from Buck's generation who
> revere
> > > Buck
> > > >
> > > > > Owens as a legend decry the changes that modern
> > artists
> > > > have
> > > > > made to country music...changes that probably aren't
>
> > as
> > > > > drastic as the ones Buck made. It's a
> > double-standard.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > The first album I ever bought as a kid was the
> > "Tiger
> > > by
> > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Tail" LP. Even as a kid I could tell how
> different
> > > the
> > > > > Buck
> > > > > > Owens sound was from everything else played on
> > country
> > >
> > > > > music
> > > > > > radio shows. (In 1965 in my area there were no
> > > country
> > > > > > stations, just shows on block-programmed
> stations.)
> >
> > > > Buck
> > > > > > Owens songs stood out from the Nashville Sound
> > > > > orchestrated
> > > > > > songs of the day. That Buck and Don Rich harmony
> > was
> > > > > > unmatched. Hee Haw made him a household name with
>
> > > even
> > > > > > non-country fans but his music career has been
> under
> >
> > > > > > overshadowed by the Hee Haw years. Glad he had a
> > > > comeback
> > > > > > with the Dwight Yoakam duet and his nightclub.
> Buck
> >
> > > > Owens
> > > > > -
> > > > > > my first favorite singer - will be missed!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
 
98.5 WACF in Paris, Illinois did three hours of Buck Owens the week after his passing, and continues to play his hits and album cuts on Sunday nights. It makes me sick to think that so many people only think of Buck as that guy from Hee Haw. Ole Buck had a successful career and made great music before that show ever came along.
 
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