RIP cool 92.9

[warm590]

Rick Mccafferty announced friday nite that the solid gold jukebox will be going to WKIP, 1450am in february. Right now they are simulcasting the show on WKIP; sounds like 92.9 will be changing hands 1st of feb. I was wondering if cheap channel would dump the nostalgia format on WKIP and take on the programming from uncool; but being the cheapskates that they are, I'm sure they won't spend the $$$ on live bodies on WKIP as the geezer format costs them nothing. In fact, I understand the spots on WKIP are kind of a freebie for the advertisers on the FM side.

Wonder if the folks from uncool will be able to take other jobs or will be shown the door?? Sounds like Rick's jukebox will still be on (for now anyway), but obviously he will lose most of his audience as the powered-down-at-sunset signal is very weak. Think my microwave has more wattage.

The right thing to do would be a community focused and involved full service am like wkip used to be, with the oldies format. In the immortal words of Lowry Mays, head honcho of Cheap channel: " We are not in the business to entertain people, we are in the business to make money" Putz. Anyway, how the mighty have fallen :-X

discussion? Forecasts? rumors? trash??? ???


warm590 ;D

 

[aka. the steve]

The days of cool 92.9 are winding down. I am curious what Pamel has planned for the frequency? Pamel doesn't have to stay out of the way of anyone except k104 and even then, a competitor to KISS might be interesting. CC had to stear clear of all of their other stations. Whatever Pamal does, I am sure it will be better than the poorly programmed oldies format that is on now.

Perhaps another country station is just what the market needs...

 

[warm590]

Another country station?? you are kidding, right?? The Woof never got out of the dumper and continues to stay there, and in Chuckie-boy's infinite wisdom, simulcasts the woof?? Country fans tend to stay with the original station, such as WRWD in pok; same way with WGNA in albany. WGNA is consistently #1 in the book, and the 2 idiots that do morning drive there can't even run a board. Hopefully somebody has something good in mind for 92.9; if it does stay oldies, which I highly doubt, they need to clean house, get some better jocks, and broaden the music mix. Or an 80's-90's dance music station. Time will telll ???



warm590 ;D

 

[radiolover78]

Perhaps they'll bring back a rock format.

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[disney fanatic]

Perhaps they'll bring back a rock format.

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Not anytime soon, maybe 92.9 should flip to rhythmic AC where they have Donna Summer, Gloria Gaynor, Rick James, Madonna, The Spinners, The Commodores, Luther Vandross and many others to the format. That would be great after the former WNEW flipped from "Mix 102.7" to "Fresh 102.7" as WWFS. I hope rhythmic AC would be a great fit for the Poughkeepsie market. It will plays classic dance from the 70's, 80's and 90's. That would be a great idea.

 

[aka. the steve]

Yes - I was kidding about country. I actually think there is a place in the market for a well programmed oldies/classic hits station. 60's, 70's and 80's with upbeat presentation (think pamel's k104) If done right, a classic hits station could maintain most of the current oldies audience and take listeners from PDH and the AC's.

 

[disney fanatic]

Here is an example on YouTube where this format will go to 92.9. It will be a Movin' format. Go check it out. This one was from Movin 92.5 in Seattle, WA. One of Alan Burns' new format.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k-RXQIeETM

 

[radiolover78]

Yes - I was kidding about country. I actually think there is a place in the market for a well programmed oldies/classic hits station. 60's, 70's and 80's with upbeat presentation (think pamel's k104) If done right, a classic hits station could maintain most of the current oldies audience and take listeners from PDH and the AC's.

Interesting idea. I think it would be a success.

 

[clarity2006]

Yes, soemthing classic...enough of the Celine Dion and Kelly Clarkson. I like tehm both, but enough is enough of the typical AC. Lite FM, Mix and even Star are all playing a hybrid of the same old same old.

 

[radiolover78]

Pamal could probably successfully separate themselves from WHUD.

Perhaps Randy Turner? (Then again, he already has an important position at Pamal)

 

[coolpapa-j]

There is almost no overlap in coverage between HUD and BPM, so competing there really shouldn't be an issue. HUD doesn't do a whole lot in Ulster or Northern Dutchess, so I can't see that they'd worry too much about BPM getting in the way of HUD. In fact, if Pamal could find a way to take CZX and Lite down a bit in Poughkeepsie, HUD would look even bigger regionally.

Perhaps HOT AC? Might make some sense for Pamal to put a station between HUD and K104 targeting W25-44. They certainly have the personel to make it work.

 

[derekm]

I also hope to see something good come out of 92.9. Being that it's out of Saugerties, where I live, the station comes in great here. I never listen to the oldies format, but I remember when it was 929ROCK I listened often. K104 has been my favorite for years, and its not just the music, but the station in general. Hopefully Pamal will do a good job with this one. So far nothing's been successful at 92.9, but I have a feeling that will change.

 

[disney fanatic]

If you go to this website

www.cool929fm.com

it is still owned by CC, but I don't see Pamal takes over anytime soon. It still listed as "Solid Gold Jukebox". WKIP will be a permanent place to have the "Solid Gold Jukebox" on Friday nights. WBPM and WKIP will continue to simulcast the "Solid Gold Jukebox" right before the station is sold. Go to Pamal's website

http://www.pamal.com/index2.php

And you see a lists of stations there. The two stations WGHQ and WBPM isn't showing up yet, but it still has WRNX in it. There is also a WRNX website:

http://www.wrnx.com

CC hasn't been traded WRNX yet. Will see!

 

[warm590]

Disney- listen up- like I said in the FIRST POST-Rick announced fri nite that the Jukebox is going to wkip in feb...this tells me that pamal is taking over Feb 1st. The transaction was approved by the FCC last summer. Like the grossly overplayed hit by Steam-

na na na na...hey hey hey.....kiss her goodbye....


Still looking for more info, rumors, etc???

warm590 8)

 

[disney fanatic]

Rhythm 92.9? Maybe

Disney- listen up- like I said in the FIRST POST-Rick announced fri nite that the Jukebox is going to wkip in feb...this tells me that pamal is taking over Feb 1st. The transaction was approved by the FCC last summer. Like the grossly overplayed hit by Steam-

na na na na...hey hey hey.....kiss her goodbye....


Still looking for more info, rumors, etc???

I hope this station will go rhythmic AC like WNEW did with classic dance since they dumped a few weeks ago to "Fresh" as an AC format. I hope this rhythmic AC would do better than the former "Mix 102.7" does about three years ago. Hudson Valley hasn't been programmed a rhythmic oldies format for about 6 years since "Rhythm 94.3" flipped to oldies as "Cool 94.3". I want to see rhythmic oldies coming back to the Hudson Valley. I like to hear some more Donna Summer, Gloria Gaynor, Madonna, the Commodores, Isley Brothers, Rick James, George Benson, the Bee Gees, the Spinners, C+C Music Factory, Cece Peniston, Stevie B and a few others. Why not put more 80's freestyle music since Kiss-FM at 96.1 dumped the "Freestyle 4 at 4" last year before it became "Reggaton 4 at 4". It would do better than WKTU does now as well as the former "Mix 102.7" when it was a classic dance station. It will play some uptempo dance songs from the 70's, 80's and 90's.

As for oldies, "Cool 92.9" is not that great according to the Fall Poughkeepsie Arbitrons last week. It doesn't belong on FM, FM appeals to 25-54 demos. AM should fit for an oldies station for listeners ages 55+ demos. The demos ages at 55+ doesn't listen to FM anymore, because oldies doesn't work on FM.

This is what had happened with WCBS-FM in New York City back on June 3rd of 2005 when they dumped oldies to "Jack". When 101.1 had a terrible start in New York City since day 1, oldies still remains on 92.9 for the rest of the time being to picked up listeners who doesn't listened to CBS-FM anymore. This had nothing to do with WBPM. WCBS-FM's new format "Jack" that came out in the NYC Arbitrons that it is gaining up. Clear Channel needs to take that road show and take the circus to Pamal. Pamal needs a station to flip to become a classic dance station. This would bring listeners from the former B94, the original WBPM when it was originally on 94.3 when it moved to 92.9 back in 2004 after ditching the rock format from WRKW's "92.9 Rock".

I remember WCKL in Catskill, one of the most terrible signal AM stations ever when it was simulcasting "Cool 92.9" from Saugerties, NY. That lasted about a year. It went dark at sundown. And then after that comes a simulcast of "WCZR's "Cruisin' 93.5" which is still a competitor to "Cool 92.9". That lasted a few months until the station finally went dark. WCKL is one of the most crummy radio stations ever when it still remains dark.

I guess Warm590 got it right, next week will be Rick McCaffery's last "Solid Gold Jukebox" before the move to WKIP at 1450 starting February 1st. Oldies will be moving to the AM dial. Is Tony Flash will go to "Cruisin' 93.5"? Maybe. I'll have to aircheck Rick McCaffery's show. Is Nick Charles will go to WCZR? Will have to wait and see.

Or maybe move the "Cool 92.9" jocks over to 1450 AM and you will get a shot at it.

According to Cool 92.9's website, it doesn't have an online stream. Same as Cruisin' 93.5 did and it still doesn't have an online stream. WTRY in Albany does streaming oldies.

This might be the future plans for what Pamal is going to be if oldies will die on 92.9. How about the last songs before the flip? It will be:

1. "Hello Goodbye" - The Beatles
2. "Na, Na, Hey, Hey, Kiss Him Goodbye" - Steam
3. "American Pie" - Don McLean
4. "Rock & Roll Is Here to Stay" - Danny & the Juniors

And last songs right before the change will be effect soon if Pamal will be taking over the station. It's been about 14 months since Pamal is buying WGHQ and WBPM. CC is going to be sold these two stations to Pamal. Get ready for the biggest format flip ever since WCBS-FM did back in June of 2005. Be prepared.

As for now, Cool 92.9 will remain with the "Solid Gold Jukebox" with just the horrible liners done by Ziggy. Ziggy is still best when he did both the CBS-FM and Magic 100.9's sweepers. Look for Ziggy at WKLI in Albany. He is doing liners for Magic 100.9 with the resing CBS-FM's "Do It Again" jingles.

Pamal, are you ready to see 92.9 to do a format flip? Time will tell!

 

[clarity2006]

Disney, Listen very closely...It's all a dream...We're going to wake up like Bobby Ewing did in the shower on 'Dallas' and find out the last couple of years never happened...

Mark Bolger & Stu Chanz are still on K104
Van Ritchie is wishin' a happy morning to everyone at the IBM Credit Union

Keep wishin' & hopin'...but guess what...You will NOT be hearing any CeCe Peniston on the new 92.9. There will be no MC Hammer. There will be no C & C Music Factory. It's going to be a classic hits...Start accepting it now and move on.

 

[disney fanatic]

Disney, Listen very closely...It's all a dream...We're going to wake up like Bobby Ewing did in the shower on 'Dallas' and find out the last couple of years never happened...

Mark Bolger & Stu Chanz are still on K104
Van Ritchie is wishin' a happy morning to everyone at the IBM Credit Union

Keep wishin' & hopin'...but guess what...You will NOT be hearing any CeCe Peniston on the new 92.9. There will be no MC Hammer. There will be no C & C Music Factory. It's going to be a classic hits...Start accepting it now and move on.

You're absolutely right! Classic hits is about music from the 70's, 80's and 90's. It is an updated version of the oldies format, but it sounds exactly like WCTZ's 96.7 The Coast in Stamford CT where they have it now. I guess I was kidding about this rhythmic stuff which will be coming to 92.9. Will look into it and see what happens. : I'm serious.

 

[AMonFM]

Re: Rhythm 92.9? Maybe

As for oldies, "Cool 92.9" is not that great according to the Fall Poughkeepsie Arbitrons last week. It doesn't belong on FM, FM appeals to 25-54 demos. AM should fit for an oldies station for listeners ages 55+ demos. The demos ages at 55+ doesn't listen to FM anymore, because oldies doesn't work on FM.

Disney, if you were in programming you'd bankrupt the company inside of one book. Look, I'm not going go get into all the nuances of ratings here with you, since you obviously will never absorb any of it anyway... suffice it to say that what you said here makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever. But, lets give you a fighting chance here. You are so keen to mention stations not in your listening area, so why dont you explain to all the fine folks here how WKLI Albany fits into your demographic model, as stated above, using those wonderful A12+ numbers you are so infatuated with.

This is what had happened with WCBS-FM in New York City back on June 3rd of 2005 when they dumped oldies to "Jack". When 101.1 had a terrible start in New York City since day 1, oldies still remains on 92.9 for the rest of the time being to picked up listeners who doesn't listened to CBS-FM anymore. This had nothing to do with WBPM. WCBS-FM's new format "Jack" that came out in the NYC Arbitrons that it is gaining up. Clear Channel needs to take that road show and take the circus to Pamal. Pamal needs a station to flip to become a classic dance station. This would bring listeners from the former B94, the original WBPM when it was originally on 94.3 when it moved to 92.9 back in 2004 after ditching the rock format from WRKW's "92.9 Rock".

I wish I could comment on what you attempted to state here, but I can't even decipher it. Perhaps BabelFish might help here.... Wait... you are once again trying to justify what one station does in one market, while trying to explain how another station in an entirely different market did something else completely unrelated to the first? We've been thru this before...

I remember WCKL in Catskill, one of the most terrible signal AM stations ever when it was simulcasting "Cool 92.9" from Saugerties, NY. That lasted about a year. It went dark at sundown. And then after that comes a simulcast of "WCZR's "Cruisin' 93.5" which is still a competitor to "Cool 92.9". That lasted a few months until the station finally went dark. WCKL is one of the most crummy radio stations ever when it still remains dark.

It's W Z C R first off. Secondly, WCKL is going thru one of most involved ownership transfers that's happened 'round these parts in quite awhile. And the fact that CC is bailing out of Hudson has something to do with it (they own the transmitter & real estate, only the license was sold). But good news! Since the station is sooo crummy, luckily you won't have to hear it since it is in fact... off the air.

I guess Warm590 got it right, next week will be Rick McCaffery's last "Solid Gold Jukebox" before the move to WKIP at 1450 starting February 1st. Oldies will be moving to the AM dial. Is Tony Flash will go to "Cruisin' 93.5"? Maybe. I'll have to aircheck Rick McCaffery's show. Is Nick Charles will go to WCZR? Will have to wait and see.

Again, it's WZCR. And nobody is heading there, since it's a CC station and people are running from that place just as fast as rats on a sinking ship. You did hear it's going up for sale, right?

And last songs right before the change will be effect soon if Pamal will be taking over the station. It's been about 14 months since Pamal is buying WGHQ and WBPM. CC is going to be sold these two stations to Pamal. Get ready for the biggest format flip ever since WCBS-FM did back in June of 2005. Be prepared.

Now, if your supposition that Cool has no listeners is true, per your keen observation of the POK arb's, then how will anybody even know the format changes? The BIG difference here is that CBS-FM actually had a sizeable loyal audience (and staff) that was completely blown off by it corporate owner. In comparison, 92.9 changing formats will not be the radio headline of the year in anybody's book.

Pamal, are you ready to see 92.9 to do a format flip? Time will tell!

Huh, isn't Pamal the one flipping the format? Wouldn't they know about that ahead of time?

Disney... I don't mean to pick on you, but you really have to think about what your posting before you start typing. It's damned difficult for some of us to know what point it is that you're trying to make here. A quality post is better than quantity.

(Edited for spelling)

 

[disney fanatic]

Nice post, AMonFM. Will have to think about it. Right now, will have to leave oldies alone.