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Rock'n'Roll greats and androgeny

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MsMusicRadio

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I wonder where the RAD show and other conservative shock jocks playing "Rock" think this music would be without the early pioneers of the genre like Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, Elvis, Carl Perkins, The Beatles in 1964, The Stones, Rod Stewart, David Bowie, and so many more. Certainly the early Beatles were critiqued for looking like girls to some people. If these dudes had made fun of Steven Tyler, I'd say "so".
 
The reason why rock always looked to the left because the conservative right always tried to bring it down before it even got on the charts. From payola witch hunts, race music etc...too many wrongs for example...denying the great Gene Pitney "Who Shot Liberty Valance" hit track song , from being in the soundtrack hit movie of the same name... because he was labled a rock singer,while today...it would be labeled a MOR standard. Now it's gone out of control the other way, where our rock heros defend practically anything that's demoralizing, anti sovereign, free speech, peacenik, aiding and abetting the enemy that would slit their throats. Yes this free spirit rogue progressive movement of watching your rights, jobs, quality of life go right before your eyes while you stand there for freedom , and you have or no Nothing. And you MS. whatever will be replaced after I'm replaced one day. This board has been taken over by community college panzees like everything else in the media has been taken over, in a one way dialogue where I hope eveyone of them has a Jerry Springer experience... "I need to Tell you a secret honey, i'm really a .......... if it's neanderthal man or homosapien on there...I'll be the first to watch it.
 
I went to Miami Beach Senior High that offered a special class called the Rock Ensemble.  (I now live in Northern California.  Some students who took the class have scored great musical gigs in the Los Angeles area.)

Our music teacher in South Florida had quite a way of getting top-of-the-line equipment. Despite being in public school which we constantly hear is struggling for funding (especially here in CA), he is still able to orchestrate some killer deals. He's one of my strongest influences, in business and in putting on shows. (And in getting paid; some people wrongly believe you can stiff musicians, just because they do it for love like The Eagles talk about in "The Long Run.")

One thing I really liked about RE is the variety of topics covered which serve me very well in audio industries like radio.  These include:
* the history of the music
* performance (especially the notion of balance and dynamics; if the vocal can't be heard, the band is too loud)
* technology (esp. as a tool, you can have the greatest microphone in the world, doesn't mean anything if you don't have talent to sing or do talk radio)
* teamwork as a band -- if any person does get special credit, it's the one who booked the gig.  Yes, the world is an easier and better place with money, despite warnings from Pink Floyd and Abba. Everybody else including the lead singer supports that.  If you came to rock-n-roll to be a star, you're inauthentic to the music and to the group.
* the notion that IT'S A BUSINESS!
* the notion to have FUN!  (Yes, fun and business are NOT mutually exclusive.  Creatives and suits can share each other's wardrobe, without malfunctions!)

I only wish more schools had a Rock Ensemble program.
 
Gender bending rock bands were not always "liberal" or "conservative". The political views of a lot of musicians are not public. Just because The Ramones looked like a girls doesn't mean I assume they were left leaning. Ted Nugent still has long hair and Sting doesn't. Elvis Costello is left I assume and is not androgenous. In country music, Willie , Waylon, Chris, and Johnny Cash were and are seen as mostly left of center while the rather ( in my opinion) odd looking or acting performers like Porter Waggoner, Hank Snow, Marty Stuart, and Travis Tritt I believe are right of center. I am not being like RAD here because I am only talking about CELEBRITIES.
 
MsMusicRadio said:
Gender bending rock bands were not always "liberal" or "conservative". The political views of a lot of musicians are not public. Just because The Ramones looked like a girls doesn't mean I assume they were left leaning. Ted Nugent still has long hair and Sting doesn't. Elvis Costello is left I assume and is not androgenous. In country music, Willie , Waylon, Chris, and Johnny Cash were and are seen as mostly left of center while the rather ( in my opinion) odd looking or acting performers like Porter Waggoner, Hank Snow, Marty Stuart, and Travis Tritt I believe are right of center. I am not being like RAD here because I am only talking about CELEBRITIES.
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I'd really suggest you check your facts before you post, because someone might just do it for you. Not worth my time, but I see some large holes in your logic and hate-speech.

Why is this post even in the Sacramento board? Think it would be more fitting for a different place.
 
That is the point. There are no facts here. Just impressions from the stage that could easily be stage managed for effect.
 
Questor said:
I went to Miami Beach Senior High that offered a special class called the Rock Ensemble. (I now live in Northern California. Some students who took the class have scored great musical gigs in the Los Angeles area.)

Our music teacher in South Florida had quite a way of getting top-of-the-line equipment. Despite being in public school which we constantly hear is struggling for funding (especially here in CA), he is still able to orchestrate some killer deals. He's one of my strongest influences, in business and in putting on shows. (And in getting paid; some people wrongly believe you can stiff musicians, just because they do it for love like The Eagles talk about in "The Long Run.")

One thing I really liked about RE is the variety of topics covered which serve me very well in audio industries like radio. These include:
* the history of the music
* performance (especially the notion of balance and dynamics; if the vocal can't be heard, the band is too loud)
* technology (esp. as a tool, you can have the greatest microphone in the world, doesn't mean anything if you don't have talent to sing or do talk radio)
* teamwork as a band -- if any person does get special credit, it's the one who booked the gig. Yes, the world is an easier and better place with money, despite warnings from Pink Floyd and Abba. Everybody else including the lead singer supports that. If you came to rock-n-roll to be a star, you're inauthentic to the music and to the group.
* the notion that IT'S A BUSINESS!
* the notion to have FUN! (Yes, fun and business are NOT mutually exclusive. Creatives and suits can share each other's wardrobe, without malfunctions!)

I only wish more schools had a Rock Ensemble program.
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And then there is that odd notion that the members of the band have the depth of music theory, can read music as well as write music, and understand how to listen to it.
 
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