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Rodney Ho Article About Moby

From today's Atlanta Journal-Constitution. The former morning man at Kicks and briefly Z93 is now heard on suburban stations WNGC/Athens and WTSH/Rome. Yeah baby!

http://www.accessatlanta.com/entertainment/content/entertainment/stories/2008/02/21/moby_0224.html

Excerpt:
Moby (real name: James Carney), spends eight hours a day prepping for his four-hour show, compiling four to six pages of notes.

But over the air, his show sounds effortless, almost spontaneous. "He doesn't have a script, but he knows where he's going," said Norm Schrutt, Moby's former agent and former boss at Kicks...
 
No Moby.....your first break came when Chuck Tarkenton took the show on The Bear 92.5, in Griffin.
Ya know....it's just like you to not mention that.
 
Don't worry, he won't last very long on WNGC when Cox Radio takes over in a few months, something many WNGC listeners and employees are keeping their fingers crossed about.
 
My only question is why was this written now? There's nothing in that article that's surprising, or news, or that hasn't been repeated somewhere else years ago when Moby was adding the stations he's on.

Was there nothing else to write about?
 
ClarkKent said:
My only question is why was this written now? There's nothing in that article that's surprising, or news, or that hasn't been repeated somewhere else years ago when Moby was adding the stations he's on. Was there nothing else to write about?

The article was supposed to have been about Neil Millman's ascension to PD of 92.9. But Neil is a modest guy and at the last minute, asked the AJC not to run it. Rodney had the Moby article on file so they went with it.

At least that's what Neil told me.
 
lfuss said:
Why would Cox drop Moby when he brings lots of listeners and revenue to the station?

LF

Only reason I could see would be a format flip. If they stay country, I can't see any other morning show talent that would give them that much bang for the buck-even for someone like Cox.

I wonder how WNGC does for a small-market station...
 
It was a feature story in AJC Sunday Living. There was no particular breaking news that got me to do the story. I just felt a lot of folks in town probably have no clue Moby's still around and kicking. He's an interesting guy with an interesting past who has had a successful shot at redemption. And he has acknowledged the Bear. I just didn't get into it. From what I can judge, WNGC was a bigger station and a true turning point from a financial standpoint for him more so than the Bear. Will he stick around when Cox completes its purchase of NGC and South 107.1? We'll see.
 
rodneyho said:
It was a feature story in AJC Sunday Living. There was no particular breaking news that got me to do the story. I just felt a lot of folks in town probably have no clue Moby's still around and kicking. He's an interesting guy with an interesting past who has had a successful shot at redemption. And he has acknowledged the Bear. I just didn't get into it. From what I can judge, WNGC was a bigger station and a true turning point from a financial standpoint for him more so than the Bear. Will he stick around when Cox completes its purchase of NGC and South 107.1? We'll see.

Cox didn't buy South 107. Just the Athens 5 plus WXKT in Washington, GA. If Cox researches their products as much as it is said they do, then I don't see Moby staying on past the fall. Most listeners want a local morning show on WNGC. Cox may not put too much money on a morning show. It makes sense for them to have a local show and not a has-been radio dj hired because Paul Stone and company wanted to save money and not put anything into a morning show since the Morning Crew was shown the door, and the Cox deal has been in the works for many years.

But who knows, Cox may flip WNGC. It'll be intersting to see what happens...

JB
 
rodneyho said:
From what I can judge, WNGC was a bigger station and a true turning point from a financial standpoint for him more so than the Bear. Will he stick around when Cox completes its purchase of NGC and South 107.1? We'll see.

As the above poster mentioned, WTSH is not yet pending sale to Cox, though it is interesting in that these are the two stations operating in Moby's home state of Georgia, and just happened to be owned by the same company. (Most recently, there was an AM trimulcast across three states including Georgia that also carried the program.)

As an aside, the webstream of WNGC leaves a little to be desired in terms of quality. I notice every certain number of minutes there is a "skip" in the feed - don't know what's causing it...
 
Chuck Tarkenton's "The Bear" was the second(maybe third)station to take Moby. The first was his hometown AM, in Tennessee.
Chuck was the guy who really believed in Moby and talked his show up to Paul Stone.(Stone is/was owner of WNGC/WTSH) If it were not for Tarkenton Moby would probably NOT be on the Stone stations. The Bear proved the viability of Moby's "hometown" radio appeal.
 
What I don't understand is why Moby thinks he can survive in the world of radio syndication when all the resources at ABC couldn't land him on more than a couple dozen stations, if that many. Tom Joyner began syndicating his show in January 1994, with 29 stations, and today, only 14 years later, he's on more than 110 radio stations and heard by over ten million radio listeners. If the Moby thing was going to work, wouldn't he have seen more fruit from his labor by now? After all Moby's been at it about as long as Joyner has. Oh, by the way - 8 hours of show prep? Bull %$#* - give me a break!!!
 
WNGC is a ratings powerhouse in North Georgia. Financially, they are a cash cow. Bob Neil may be a lot of things, but he's not stupid enough to mess with what's working.

Tom Joyner was able to garner a lot of affiliates because having a decent local morning show on an urban station in a small or medium market is a big challenge. Been there, done that.

On the other hand, many small and medium market country stations have a guy on in morning drive who's been there for years. In some cases, good ole Bubba is also the top salesman on the station, by virtue of his clebrity status. Stations such as this are reluctant to put on a syndicated show, and rightfully so. Moby doesn't stand a chance of getting on these stations unless Bubba retires or dies.

Think what you want about Moby, but listeners love him. He has an extremely loyal following. And if you knew him personally, you'd know that he's 100% genuine - it's not an act. He loves what he does and it shows on and off he air.

LF
 
jonblaze said:
If Cox researches their products as much as it is said they do, then I don't see Moby staying on past the fall. Most listeners want a local morning show on WNGC. Cox may not put too much money on a morning show. It makes sense for them to have a local show and not a has-been radio dj hired because Paul Stone and company wanted to save money and not put anything into a morning show since the Morning Crew was shown the door, and the Cox deal has been in the works for many years.

But who knows, Cox may flip WNGC. It'll be intersting to see what happens...

JB
It sounds like picking up Moby is a cheap way to get a known talent, especially in a market that's already familiar with him. A good in-house morning show costs money.

Certainly, Cox could open their checkbook and have a go at it where Southern Broadcasting couldn't. But as I recall, Kicks did well with him-my only guess is that they wanted a different morning product instead of someone who competed and overlapped so closely with Rhubarb down the hall.

Now, if Cox wants to start dumping a bunch of money into WNGC as a country station, there going to have to consider that they will be competing with Citadel's (ABC's) two country stations, CC's Bull, and CC's WSSL in Greenville. WSSL is a ratings monster (a 10 share last book), and it rimshots Toccoa and Athens. Eagle's new (as of a couple years ago) transmitter on The Beat's old The Fish's tower near Loganville (thanks Roddy) pushes them eastward, easily covering Toccoa and Elberton. Kicks and the Bull rimshot Toccoa and easily cover Gainesville and Athens.

There's also CC's WKSF out of Asheville, which covers the Toccoa area and almost-but-not-quite rimshots Gainesville and Commerce; it was DOWN to a 14 SHARE last book, from a 17+ share.

That's opportunity, and a lot of share to potentially pick off, but you're not dealing with a bunch of small-timers-and COX will be the underdog with its intermarket signal with no true metro to lean on for ad dollars.

I could see Cox being the odd man out, and I could see CC's Bull being the odd man out. Obviously, the two out-of-town CC stations aren't going anywhere, and neither are Kicks and Eagle.

As I said before, Cox could put on a format on WNGC that simultaneously targets students at UGA and Clemson, not to mention a large chunk of the ATL (alternative, active rock, AAA, etc.). Cox could flip WPUP 103.7 to something else if they go the active rock route with 106.1; heck, they could move country to it and cover most of the same Athens/Toccoa/Gainesville territory and not be up against the CC stations.
 
jabba17 said:
It sounds like picking up Moby is a cheap way to get a known talent, especially in a market that's already familiar with him. A good in-house morning show costs money.

Certainly, Cox could open their checkbook and have a go at it where Southern Broadcasting couldn't. But as I recall, Kicks did well with him-my only guess is that they wanted a different morning product instead of someone who competed and overlapped so closely with Rhubarb down the hall.

Now, if Cox wants to start dumping a bunch of money into WNGC as a country station, there going to have to consider that they will be competing with Citadel's (ABC's) two country stations, CC's Bull, and CC's WSSL in Greenville. WSSL is a ratings monster (a 10 share last book), and it rimshots Toccoa and Athens. Eagle's new (as of a couple years ago) transmitter on The Beat's old The Fish's tower near Loganville (thanks Roddy) pushes them eastward, easily covering Toccoa and Elberton. Kicks and the Bull rimshot Toccoa and easily cover Gainesville and Athens.

There's also CC's WKSF out of Asheville, which covers the Toccoa area and almost-but-not-quite rimshots Gainesville and Commerce; it was DOWN to a 14 SHARE last book, from a 17+ share.

That's opportunity, and a lot of share to potentially pick off, but you're not dealing with a bunch of small-timers-and COX will be the underdog with its intermarket signal with no true metro to lean on for ad dollars.

I could see Cox being the odd man out, and I could see CC's Bull being the odd man out. Obviously, the two out-of-town CC stations aren't going anywhere, and neither are Kicks and Eagle.

As I said before, Cox could put on a format on WNGC that simultaneously targets students at UGA and Clemson, not to mention a large chunk of the ATL (alternative, active rock, AAA, etc.). Cox could flip WPUP 103.7 to something else if they go the active rock route with 106.1; heck, they could move country to it and cover most of the same Athens/Toccoa/Gainesville territory and not be up against the CC stations.

WKSF blazes here in Athens quite well. I often choose to listen to that station (and WNGC)over some of the other mention. Why would Cox care about "the Atlanta 3" country stations? Kicks and Bull are going for an Metro Atlanta audience, and WNGC often beats Kicks in many North Georgia counties. Eagle is really only WNGC's true competitor. You can go into any store in North Georgia, and chances are you're going to hear WNGC. True, we can also hear the 2 Greenville Country stations on this part of the state, and sometime, we can get country from Augusta and we can't forget little WCON. Many listeners have told employees of WNGC that they listen to the other stations mentioned in the morning, but turn back to WNGC after 10am. Yeah, Moby may have a loyal following... but his "loyal listeners" turn away from WNGC at 10.

As someone posted above WNGC is a cash cow. And that is because it's a heritage country station, and has carried UGA for many years. What I see for WNGC after Cox takes over... it will stay country, Moby will be off after a few months,(George Mason Dixon and Scott Howard from the afternoon could replace them? Or another Cox owned Morning show from another market) and UGA makes a deal with Cox to have WNGC air other games besides football (returning Mens BB and picking up Lady Dawgs BB)

Now Cox could aim WNGC to newer country songs to go against Kicks & Bull, and not make it an true Atlanta station and drop Moby "Dawg Country 106.1 WNGC". Another factor in this formula is chances WPUP will flip to something else besides rock... could we see a Classic Country station on PUP or WXKT from Washington... where Moby could land?
 
jonblaze said:
Many listeners have told employees of WNGC that they listen to the other stations mentioned in the morning, but turn back to WNGC after 10am. Yeah, Moby may have a loyal following... but his "loyal listeners" turn away from WNGC at 10.

As someone posted above WNGC is a cash cow. And that is because it's a heritage country station, and has carried UGA for many years. What I see for WNGC after Cox takes over... it will stay country, Moby will be off after a few months,(George Mason Dixon and Scott Howard from the afternoon could replace them? Or another Cox owned Morning show from another market) and UGA makes a deal with Cox to have WNGC air other games besides football (returning Mens BB and picking up Lady Dawgs BB)

Now Cox could aim WNGC to newer country songs to go against Kicks & Bull, and not make it an true Atlanta station and drop Moby "Dawg Country 106.1 WNGC". Another factor in this formula is chances WPUP will flip to something else besides rock... could we see a Classic Country station on PUP or WXKT from Washington... where Moby could land?

I could see Cox replacing Moby with another Cox morning show...especially if their research bears you out on people listening to Moby not listening the rest of the day and vice-versa, and it doesn't cost Cox any extra. You don't want people changing the station, period.

Here's the question. Does Cox keep the overhead down and keep raking in the money with the status quo? Or do they overhaul WNGC, open their checkbook, and really make a go after listeners to the ATL, Asheville, and Greenville stations-where ever they are?

I don't see WNGC adding additional UGA sports, particularly if they go with the latter plan, unless their ratings after supper are low enough to not have to worry about losing listeners who don't care about hoops (again, you don't want people changing the station). Keep in mind, men's hoops are still on WSB--which was the point of my comments on another thread that ClarkKent refers to above.

Flipping WPUP to classic country and moving Moby there is an interesting idea, though, should Cox decide to "upgrade" WNGC. But wouldn't this leave Athens without a "local" rock station?
 
jabba17 said:
I could see Cox replacing Moby with another Cox morning show...especially if their research bears you out on people listening to Moby not listening the rest of the day and vice-versa, and it doesn't cost Cox any extra. You don't want people changing the station, period.

Here's the question. Does Cox keep the overhead down and keep raking in the money with the status quo? Or do they overhaul WNGC, open their checkbook, and really make a go after listeners to the ATL, Asheville, and Greenville stations-where ever they are?

I don't see WNGC adding additional UGA sports, particularly if they go with the latter plan, unless their ratings after supper are low enough to not have to worry about losing listeners who don't care about hoops (again, you don't want people changing the station). Keep in mind, men's hoops are still on WSB--which was the point of my comments on another thread that ClarkKent refers to above.

Flipping WPUP to classic country and moving Moby there is an interesting idea, though, should Cox decide to "upgrade" WNGC. But wouldn't this leave Athens without a "local" rock station?

Rick and Bubba could be a replacement on WNGC. Since they are now a Cox radio product, and they are looking to get a good station in the Atlanta area, and rebuild their Turner South audience. (And since WSB-AM pre-empts them regularly on Sundays)

I think your right about not putting more sports on WNGC... maybe a return of mens BB. As for WPUP... I think I heard some talk that maybe a flip to a FM talk station and have it compete with WDUN in Gainesville. With the power of Cox (WSB-AJC-Channel 2), they could give WDUN a run in Gainesville, and be the new home of Boortz and Clark. With that said, they could also build up WGAU in Athens, getting a bigger news department.

Now, here is the $64,000 question... what will happen to WXKT? The new "Bulldog 100.1"? or "K-100, Athens NEW home for today's Hit Music" (playing of the over-use of NEW... and taking 95.5's old liner)

Needless to say, I think Moby's days on WNGC are numbered. He wont have the help of Scott Smith after Cox takes over. Smith is really the only reason he's still on WNGC.
 
"Think what you want about Moby, but listeners love him. He has an extremely loyal following. And if you knew him personally, you'd know that he's 100% genuine - it's not an act."


That is perhaps the funniest thing I have read in a long time. You obviously have never worked with the man.
 
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