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Ron Chapman Talent Coach
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From the news page on radio-info.com :
Ron Chapman and George Johns launch a talent consulting shop
The timing is good, because Chapman is about to be inducted into the NAB Broadcasting Hall of Fame at Tuesday’s Radio Luncheon in Las Vegas. Chapman and programmer/consultant George Johns worked together building the legendary AC KVIL, Dallas, and now they're partnered with former KIIS-FM, Los Angeles executive Roy Laughlin and “a new player in the private equity entertainment world” to offer consulting services for talent. That will include conducting “working labs” at individual stations and holding online webinars. To find out more, email Laughlin at [email protected].
OK, Anyone think that the person refered to as “a new player in the private equity entertainment world” is Russ Martin?
Ron Chapman and George Johns launch a talent consulting shop
The timing is good, because Chapman is about to be inducted into the NAB Broadcasting Hall of Fame at Tuesday’s Radio Luncheon in Las Vegas. Chapman and programmer/consultant George Johns worked together building the legendary AC KVIL, Dallas, and now they're partnered with former KIIS-FM, Los Angeles executive Roy Laughlin and “a new player in the private equity entertainment world” to offer consulting services for talent. That will include conducting “working labs” at individual stations and holding online webinars. To find out more, email Laughlin at [email protected].
OK, Anyone think that the person refered to as “a new player in the private equity entertainment world” is Russ Martin?
When I saw that headline I had to stop and seriously question if Chapman could even be a credible or viable coach in this post consolidation marketplace. Lots of evolution has taken place, even the KVIL calls have been buried.
For sure, ya can't talk up "the fun and games department", ya can't end every promo with "Here at k-v-I-L", and there ain't no more KVIL-A-COPTER either.
And then there's the LA partner who had himself driven to a staff meeting in an ambulance, delivered on a stretcher, so he could jump up and proclaim 'radio is NOT dead', only to find himself out of a gig a short time later.
What's next? Do ya think Gene OR Julie would call Chapman for advice?
For sure, ya can't talk up "the fun and games department", ya can't end every promo with "Here at k-v-I-L", and there ain't no more KVIL-A-COPTER either.
And then there's the LA partner who had himself driven to a staff meeting in an ambulance, delivered on a stretcher, so he could jump up and proclaim 'radio is NOT dead', only to find himself out of a gig a short time later.
What's next? Do ya think Gene OR Julie would call Chapman for advice?
This reminds me of the days when Ted Williams managed the Texas Rangers. The greatest at their craft, in numerous cases, run into trouble when attempting to translate their legendary abilities/gifts/etc into coaching or strategic advice for these new clients.
If Ron Chapman is going to suceed at this, it seems to me that he will need to take on the Gordon McLendon mentoring/cajoling role, and maybe even the Don Keyes role, and preach the virtues of good radio practices to the next generation of Ron Chapmans, Hal Jays, Terry Dorseys, Russ Martins, Tom Joyners, Michael Seldens, Larry Dixons, and so on.
That is an admirable goal. And I'm certain that a lot of people will clamor to become clients.
Here's the thing: Every one of those people I just named [and a boat-load I didn't name] had (1) talent, (2) an obvious desire to succeed on a big stage, (3) the discipline to do so, (4) the follow-through work ethic, and (5) a small amount of luck thrown in somewhere along the line. I'm sure you can think of other factors I left out.
If a budding radio personality had those five factors working in their favor, does coaching by Ron Chapman make the difference between success and failure [or being relegated to small-market status] ? In this bean-counting environment, I don't think it does. Further, I'm not too sure that being the next Ron/Hal/Terry/Tom/Michael/Larry is going to get you superstar money, either. A lot of high-octane talent is on the beach these days.
Ron can't teach you how to be Ron any more than Ted Williams could teach Joe Lovitto anything about hitting. In the case of Ron and Ted Williams, both got started in New England, brought all five of those factors to the table, and perfected their craft. Both are unquestionably deserving of their Hall of Fame status.
The old saying goes something like this: "Those who can't, teach." My somewhat rhetorical question: "Can those who DID, teach?"
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If Ron Chapman is going to suceed at this, it seems to me that he will need to take on the Gordon McLendon mentoring/cajoling role, and maybe even the Don Keyes role, and preach the virtues of good radio practices to the next generation of Ron Chapmans, Hal Jays, Terry Dorseys, Russ Martins, Tom Joyners, Michael Seldens, Larry Dixons, and so on.
That is an admirable goal. And I'm certain that a lot of people will clamor to become clients.
Here's the thing: Every one of those people I just named [and a boat-load I didn't name] had (1) talent, (2) an obvious desire to succeed on a big stage, (3) the discipline to do so, (4) the follow-through work ethic, and (5) a small amount of luck thrown in somewhere along the line. I'm sure you can think of other factors I left out.
If a budding radio personality had those five factors working in their favor, does coaching by Ron Chapman make the difference between success and failure [or being relegated to small-market status] ? In this bean-counting environment, I don't think it does. Further, I'm not too sure that being the next Ron/Hal/Terry/Tom/Michael/Larry is going to get you superstar money, either. A lot of high-octane talent is on the beach these days.
Ron can't teach you how to be Ron any more than Ted Williams could teach Joe Lovitto anything about hitting. In the case of Ron and Ted Williams, both got started in New England, brought all five of those factors to the table, and perfected their craft. Both are unquestionably deserving of their Hall of Fame status.
The old saying goes something like this: "Those who can't, teach." My somewhat rhetorical question: "Can those who DID, teach?"
My .02
The interesting name in the equation is George Johns, who was the national program director for Fairbanks Broadcasting, the owner of KVIL in its heyday.
Fairbanks' WIBC-1070 in Indianapolis was almost identically programmed to KVIL (one difference, WIBC was AM, KVIL was FM).
I tend to think George Johns deserves a lot of the behind the scenes credit for KVIL's success, Ron knew enough about show business to implement George's strategies and they made an incredible team.
And congrats to Ron on his NAB award. Did you know that two major NAB awards have gone to North Texan's in the last two years. Ron this year and Jack Sellmeyer for engineering excellence last year.
Fairbanks' WIBC-1070 in Indianapolis was almost identically programmed to KVIL (one difference, WIBC was AM, KVIL was FM).
I tend to think George Johns deserves a lot of the behind the scenes credit for KVIL's success, Ron knew enough about show business to implement George's strategies and they made an incredible team.
And congrats to Ron on his NAB award. Did you know that two major NAB awards have gone to North Texan's in the last two years. Ron this year and Jack Sellmeyer for engineering excellence last year.
So I've had a couple of days to think about this and it still seems odd to me. Seems like bad timing actually. In a time where radio stations can't even pay the light bill, they're just not footing the bill for consultants much less talent coaches. And is it possible to learn to be talented?? I think if you have to learn talent, you're not the man- or woman- for the job. I wish him the best of luck but I'm just not sure this is the brightest idea out of Ron.
While talent cannot be taught, raw talent certainly needs coaching and development. I have been in my field for nearly fifty years professionally for forty and if someone hadn't gotten a hold of me a long time ago and given me some direction, I would still be where I was, talented, but too raw for my business.
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So I've had a couple of days to think about this and it still seems odd to me. Seems like bad timing actually. In a time where radio stations can't even pay the light bill, they're just not footing the bill for consultants much less talent coaches. And is it possible to learn to be talented?? I think if you have to learn talent, you're not the man- or woman- for the job. I wish him the best of luck but I'm just not sure this is the brightest idea out of Ron.
Gragree.
You either do or don't. Can or can't. Have something or don't. Terrestrial radio is in a near-death spiral and the trend is to go national and divide the costs. That means proven commodities with limited risk or so it would seem. Who is taking risks on edgy local talent without proven listenerships in major markets?
Take the Fan completely out of my argument as they are flailing away at anyone and anything to try to make CBS sports-relevant in a top market just for the sake of it..........profit or not.
The future is niche/pod-casters who gain a following seperate from corporate broadcast radio who are then noticed and scooped up by the majors on sh!tty short-sell contracts if and until they pull new listeners in.
Not bad....not good. Just what it is. Oh, and just for my rant about new news and traffic people who can't read a sheet of paper and when they do are inarticulate and confused as Hell even when they do.....
Gragree.
You either do or don't. Can or can't. Have something or don't. Terrestrial radio is in a near-death spiral and the trend is to go national and divide the costs. That means proven commodities with limited risk or so it would seem. Who is taking risks on edgy local talent without proven listenerships in major markets?
Take the Fan completely out of my argument as they are flailing away at anyone and anything to try to make CBS sports-relevant in a top market just for the sake of it..........profit or not.
The future is niche/pod-casters who gain a following seperate from corporate broadcast radio who are then noticed and scooped up by the majors on sh!tty short-sell contracts if and until they pull new listeners in.
Not bad....not good. Just what it is. Oh, and just for my rant about new news and traffic people who can't read a sheet of paper and when they do are inarticulate and confused as Hell even when they do.....
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Will they guarantee graduates will make more than minimum wage?
The name of the new company is ... Full of Hot Air, Inc.
As one who was fortunate enough to be "mentored" by Ron in SO many ways, essentially starting when I was 16 years old and continuing through my mid-50's, I can tell you it was a wonderful thing. Wouldn't trade it for ANYTHING. Were it not for Ron, life would have been very different...for the worse!
In today's broadcast environment, learning to be a personality will be just about as valuable as learning to be a pony express rider.
One use would be you could say that you got suckered out of your money by Ron Chapman. You can use it as a conversation starter to meet lonely women.
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