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Ronny Lane on WCOS???

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Lovin-Radio

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so I was flipping stations on saturday, and I could not believe that I heard Ronny Lane on WCOS.....good to hear him back on the radio. I hope the CC boys get smart and lock him up with a full time gig. Its funny to have Lane & Gary "thrills" Mills on the same station....Looks like WCOS is doing the right thing by getting proven talent.
 
The talent pool for part timers in Columbia..is not very good.
 
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I would be willing to put Lane and Mills up aginst any other part-timers in the columbia market...I was just thinking its good to hear people you grew up listening to on the air working.....
 
Lovin-Radio said:
I would be willing to put Lane and Mills up aginst any other part-timers in the columbia market...I was just thinking its good to hear people you grew up listening to on the air working.....

Hey dude, no one's saying anything about Ronnie and Mills. In fact, I've worked with them both and consider both of them my friends. I was the one who recommended Ronnie for nights to Randy Chase at New 92 when I used to work there. All Dudefan was saying was that there's no training ground anymore for new talent, thus stations are recycling their talent..and all I was saying was that the reason there's no training ground for new talent is: DEREGULATION.

Chill out. Ronnie knows you love him, bro.
 
Scott got it. My point is that no one is training NEW P/T talent anymore. I bet you donuts to dollars that Ronny Lane is voicetracking the shift. With few execeptions, almost everyone is voicetracked on weekends. That's no way to train future full time talent.
 
I was part time at WCOS for over two years (until May of this year). I will say that Glen did a great job coaching me up... I started there when I was 19 and I pretty much sucked. By the time I left I sounded damn good. When Gary started, I helped coach him up (not that he needed it). Combine radio rookies with legendary pros (like Gary Mills) and I think you've got a good part-time training system. It's like the Braves farm league. By the way, part timers don't VT at WCOS.

In case you're wondering-- I work partime for the Rooster 106.1 in Raleigh and work for a software company fulltime.
 
Glad you had a great experience.

But the "voice track and get out" system that is going on now is not the same experience as being on live in real time. From the listeners perspective, it may not matter, but it means a world of difference between learning to be a card reader an dlearning to become a personality realting whats on the cards. I hear a lot of CCU folks around that nation that aren;t bad card readers. But all the true "personalities" are all in their 30's and 40's. No one is teaching 19 years old how to more than not screw up the liners.
 
DudeFan said:
Glad you had a great experience.

But the "voice track and get out" system that is going on now is not the same experience as being on live in real time. From the listeners perspective, it may not matter, but it means a world of difference between learning to be a card reader an dlearning to become a personality realting whats on the cards. I hear a lot of CCU folks around that nation that aren;t bad card readers. But all the true "personalities" are all in their 30's and 40's. No one is teaching 19 years old how to more than not screw up the liners.

Couldn't have put it any better, Steve. I hear what you're saying, Justin, but let me give you a little perspective. When I started working part time at WCOS-AM (it was still on Millwood Avenue back then) when I was a freshman at Carolina, I had already been in radio for 4 years. Glen worked 7-midnight next door at the Great 98. Ken "Music" Martin and Toby Young (Aunt Elouise Louise) did mornings, Teri Oyer middays, Chuck Finley afternoons. Hunter Herring was the PD and morning man at WCOS-AM, Dave Douglas was middays, Charlie Jay afternoons. Everyone was AWESOME on the air back then. Everyone prepped for their show and couldn't wait to open the mike and be a freakin' star. I don't recall a single time when any of them ever didn't have the time to give me pointers and nudge me in the right direction. Almost everything I ever learned about expressing myself and "painting a picture" in the theatre of the listeners' minds was learned from those guys and girls at WCOS-AM and FM. If I messed up, they let me know about it and I got it right the next time. They not only taught me what to do, they taught me why we did it. And this was after the days of Tracy Mitchell, Dan Vallie (yes, that Dan Vallie) and Lee Michaels..and THOSE guys were stars. Times have changed and the environment just isn't conducive to that kind of "village raising a DJ" anymore. Oh yeah, we played records, too. Real records. Real radio.
 
I re-read my post! Damn, was that bad typing or what? Nomore rushing to finish a post before running downtown!

From my observations, anyone under 30 doesn't remember good personality radio. It's been all card-reading for that long now! Good radio isn't reading the cards with a perfect delivery. I've been listening to airchecks online of all the big time jocks back in the day. It's amazing how many stutters and stops and screw ups there were... and all by big names. That's when the light went on for me about what is wrong with consolidation. No one has the time or the skill to paint a picture with words and project larger than life. It's not that there are not a lot of nice people in radio that are good announcers. But stunning, exciting radio is not about being an announcer. It's about being a frickin entertaining conversationalist in 30 seconds or less and seamlessly dropping in promos, local mentions, and the like as if you were standing there talking to your best friends. And that can only be taught by folks that learned to do it and giving the young-uns time to work it out on the air as their voice is flying though the ether. Master it live, then take it up a notch (if you have to) to voice track it.

Scott, you brought up a great point. Back in the day, you had a building full of people that could teach you and cared to teach you. Nowdays, only the morning show is live and local on a station.... if you are lucky.
 
Radio is definately not what it used to be. Most young people are not interested in radio as they were when we entered the biz. Also, many PDs are opting for canned programs rather than hiring part timers for live air shifts. I am thankful that I do have a day I can work on the air LIVE. Done the VT stuff....no matter what one says, you still cannot make it sound live....and listeners are very wise to that. Good luck to all that do have a live shift...full or part time.
 
True. Radio has lost a lot of fun to listen to. Many young people are looking to get into TV or something else.
 
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