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Royce International saga, update

But if it’s silent for a year it’ll lose its value
The only value in being on the air is if it has revenue. It has none. It is strictly worth "stick" value... like a vacant lot with no home or building on it.

If it is off the air for too long without a valid reason (slow construction, time needed for permits, a hurricane, etc.) the license will be lost. That is why silent stations sign on once a year at least. This station has a site, gear and can operate so there is no excuse. Mr. Fybush can add in regards to the technicalities of being allowed to remain off the air; those of use who have been owners or managers are often not experts but we know who to call for advi$e.
 
To be honest, if Ed Stolz hadn't insulated himself with the LLCs, all of these stations would better serve the public by being deleted. The only people who care about these stations at this point are the creditors. In Las Vegas and San Francisco, they're number 70 of 70 signals, so nobody would miss them if they never saw the light of day again. Palm Springs has fewer stations, but seriously, nobody complained to the FCC that they were off the air for years, and nobody has bought a dime of advertising in ages, so who the Hell would miss them?
Palm Springs MSA has 50 FMs, AMs and translators (23 translators and 27 full facilities). That is for 470,000 persons, or about one for every 10,000 people.

The San Francisco and Oakland and Santa Rosa MSA have 172 stations, for 8,000,000 or one for every 46,000 persons.
 
Palm Springs MSA has 50 FMs, AMs and translators (23 translators and 27 full facilities). That is for 470,000 persons, or about one for every 10,000 people.

The San Francisco and Oakland and Santa Rosa MSA have 172 stations, for 8,000,000 or one for every 46,000 persons.
David, I stand by my opinion. Yes, it's anathema to delete licenses for no reason, but in this case, what purpose do these stations serve? I'm looking at this in regards to Ed Stolz, wishing that he would be held personally responsible for his decisions, rather than hiding behind an LLC. Just losing the stations hasn't deterred him in any way. He has continued to make himself a nuisance to the creditors, receivers and the courts. Unlike a cockroach, which I have described him as being the Radio equivalent, nothing seems to get rid of him. Ar least you can deal with a cockroach by smashing him with a shoe. Quite frankly, there isn't a big enough shoe to drop on Stolz to get rid of him in this context. Nothing that he's pulled so far in his nefarious career will keep him from one day possibly acquiring another station and ramming it through the FCC and continuing his shenanigans. I feel if he were held personally responsible for all of his actions on a financial as well as legal basis, it might make a difference. Unfortunately, with the laws they way they are, he won't be held liable.

As far as serving the public, these stations have been off the air more in the past 3 years than they've been on. Listeners and advertisers have moved on without them, and a new commercial owner will have a tough row to hoe in competing with the other established signals. Yes, VCY or another NCE operator will most likely pick them up, as they're the only entities with ready cash available to purchase stations at this time.

I just wish there was some way to make the consequences for Ed Stolz so punitive that we never have to hear his name associated with broadcasting again. Operators like him are not needed, in my opinion.
 
David, I stand by my opinion. Yes, it's anathema to delete licenses for no reason, but in this case, what purpose do these stations serve? I'm looking at this in regards to Ed Stolz, wishing that he would be held personally responsible for his decisions, rather than hiding behind an LLC. Just losing the stations hasn't deterred him in any way. He has continued to make himself a nuisance to the creditors, receivers and the courts. Unlike a cockroach, which I have described him as being the Radio equivalent, nothing seems to get rid of him. Ar least you can deal with a cockroach by smashing him with a shoe. Quite frankly, there isn't a big enough shoe to drop on Stolz to get rid of him in this context. Nothing that he's pulled so far in his nefarious career will keep him from one day possibly acquiring another station and ramming it through the FCC and continuing his shenanigans. I feel if he were held personally responsible for all of his actions on a financial as well as legal basis, it might make a difference. Unfortunately, with the laws they way they are, he won't be held liable.

As far as serving the public, these stations have been off the air more in the past 3 years than they've been on. Listeners and advertisers have moved on without them, and a new commercial owner will have a tough row to hoe in competing with the other established signals. Yes, VCY or another NCE operator will most likely pick them up, as they're the only entities with ready cash available to purchase stations at this time.

I just wish there was some way to make the consequences for Ed Stolz so punitive that we never have to hear his name associated with broadcasting again. Operators like him are not needed, in my opinion.

The problem is.. delete them now, and someone will petition for a rulemaking to add that channel back. too many people think because you CAN shove a frequency in to somewhere, you should.. not true
 
The problem is.. delete them now, and someone will petition for a rulemaking to add that channel back.
The Class A in the Coachella Valley is an allocation. If the license is surrendered, the allocation remains.
too many people think because you CAN shove a frequency in to somewhere, you should.. not true
Somewhere between the FCC policy of "if it fits, license it" and the oold Canadian one of "if it does not make the existing stations unable to serve as well" there is a happy point.

I had 4 AMs in a market that had over 40 AM stations, all fulltime and all with no real power limits. I picked up one, complete with equipment, for less than $3000 in 1965! And then they licensed about 45 FMs, also. A few of us made big money, the others could be doing so poorly that they'd be off for days at a time while they got together money for a replacement tube for the transmitter!
 
The problem is.. delete them now, and someone will petition for a rulemaking to add that channel back. too many people think because you CAN shove a frequency in to somewhere, you should.. not true
At least in the case of 92.7 in the SF Bay Area, that might be difficult. 92.7 is so shortspaced that its transmitter site can't be in its city of license (Alameda). No doubt someone might try but I think a good case could be made for denying any such petition.
 
Quite sad. Had Ed Stolz kept Energy 92.7, perhaps he wouldn’t be bankrupt. That station was doing well.
It was doing OK in 2008 - in fact, making pretty good, entertaining radio targeted to the areas that it was able to serve. But that was then. Could Flying Bear have continued in the face of a declining advertising base? San Francisco didn't really start recovering from the Great Recession until around 2011 or 2012. There would have been some lean years for Energy. We're talking about the road not taken here, but my guess is that there would have been a sale at some point later in the 2010's by Flying Bear simply because the business model of that particular station had a "narrow moat" against economic and demographic changes.
 
RadioInsight is reporting that Jamtraxx, which had been programming KREV, is ceasing operations:

Umm, what?

KREV has been programmed by Albuquerque based AutoPilot FM. Jamtraxx was not involved...
 
KREV and KFRH are programmed by Autopilot with their hip hop “Hustle” brand. They have not been making money from the Ed Stolz stations, since they haven’t been airing commercials.
 
And the countdown for offers on Crazy Ed's stations has begun. That deadline is 10/23, with the auction set for 10/26. The high bidder will be approved (or rejected) by the court on 11/14.

VCY currently has the opening bid of $4.5m for all three FM's and two translators, They aint interested in KBET and its translator in Las Vegas. Auction rules state anyone who bids must top VCY's offer by at least $250k.

Now of course Crazy Ed has an appeal in to stop the auction. And if he loses that appeal, there's always a higher court. Fasten your seat belt and place your tray in its full upright position...this is gonna be a bumpy ride next couple of weeks.. months.. years.. decades, etc.
 
The antics won’t end unless Ed can’t do anything anymore (dead/incapacitated/incarcerated). He’s got enough personal cash to keep making things interesting for years to come…he got quite lucky cashing out on KWOD when he did
 
The antics won’t end unless Ed can’t do anything anymore (dead/incapacitated/incarcerated). He’s got enough personal cash to keep making things interesting for years to come…he got quite lucky cashing out on KWOD when he did
I wonder why he didn’t use some of that personal cash to keep his stations from being sold. He could have paid ASCAP himself and avoided the bankruptcy
 
I wonder why he didn’t use some of that personal cash to keep his stations from being sold. He could have paid ASCAP himself and avoided the bankruptcy

BTW The music royalty aspect of this was settled a long time ago. He actually DID pay the royalties before he filed for bankruptcy.
 
BTW The music royalty aspect of this was settled a long time ago. He actually DID pay the royalties before he filed for bankruptcy.
He paid it too late, after the first receiver was appointed to sell the stations to get money for ASCAP. VCY bought the stations. Then Ed Stolz decided to pay ASCAP. And he filed bankruptcy to get his stations back from VCY
 
He paid it too late, after the first receiver was appointed to sell the stations to get money for ASCAP. VCY bought the stations. Then Ed Stolz decided to pay ASCAP. And he filed bankruptcy to get his stations back from VCY

And at the time, the bankruptcy judge said this wouldn't be a liquidation. Now it is.

 
KFRH has filed a Resume Operations

"KFRH(FM), North Las Vegas, Nevada (Facility ID No. 19062, “KFRH”), resumed operations on Wednesday, September 13, 2023, with its licensed auxiliary facilities (as authorized in LMS File No. 0000100312), used under special temporary authority as the main facilities (as authorized in LMS File No. 0000220622). Please note that the filing of this resumption notice was delayed due to FCC counsel for the station being out of the country for two weeks (from September13 to 26, 2023) and the backlog of work upon return, including verifying the date and parameters of the return to the air."

This is all a hot mess.
 
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