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RRRRGGHHH!!! Yet another station commits the **CENSORED** unpardonable sin!!!

GRR!! It seems that KMIK 1580 has turned on the buzzsaws!! RRGH!! They are splattering loudly onto 1570 and 1590 here in San Diego, CA, at 10:30pm PDT. (KMIK-HD was also on the other night too! :() putang ina mo! chinga las panochas! .._. .._ _._. _._
KDIS has already been running the buzzsaws (at least daytime), and while they actually committed an even greater sin by turning off the analog stereo, KMIK has the best (nighttime) signal of the Radio Disney stations at my location, often coming in almost as strong as locals like KOGO or KLSD.

So... now that they have flushed themselves down the toilet...

Are there any radio disney stations that:
have at least 10kHz of audio (required)
broadcast in C-Quam (not required, but would be a plus)
has decent reception quality (doesn't have to be the 10mV/m that David Eduardo says is necessary for full-quieting (144dB SNR) inside a faraday cage, with 100s of computers and fluorescent lights on, reception) (at least at night, preferably also daytime) near 32°45'42"N 116°56'45"W (note: preferably using radio's (Sony SRF-42, or Panasonic RQ-SW10 (slightly inferior selectivity, sensitivity, and audio bandwidth to SRF-42, but has PLL synthesized tuner) built-in antenna only, but I do have a Select-A-Tenna I could use, or what indoor loop antenna should I build to aid reception of the Disney station?

Some possible candidates, based partially on distance, frequency (taking into account local co & adjacent channels), direction, power, pattern (although not all are taken into consideration on every possibility), include:
(note: if known, when different from market city, city of license is given)
1290 KKDD Riverside, CA - if I could just null that spanish language station enough at night, or be directional enough with my antenna to null the Santa Barbara station in the daytime..... (I know they don't have the buzzsaws, but are they using 10kHz? Last I checked they sounded wide enough) I can occasionally hear them, but I'd like it to be more consistent
1680 KAVT Fresno, CA - just need to have better rejection on 1700 XEPE, and a more sensitive antenna. I also occasionaly hear them, but would like more consistency.
1690 KDDZ Arvada, CO - I used to hear this one, but between the local on 1700 and one on 1690 in northern CA, I haven't heard a peep with the SW10+SAT.
1640 KDZR Portland, OR - the local on 1630, and a 1640 in northern CA seem to be wiping this out, but I've heard it once.
1300 WRDZ Chicago, IL - Is this one still broadcasting C-Quam, or have they shut it off?

I know I could listen online, but there is a LOT of time when I want to listen to Radio Disney and am nowhere near a computer. So, while I'm waiting for some Disney stations to make atonement for their aforementioned sins, what would be one you'd suggest trying reception of, even if I have to build a better antenna to hear it clearly 24/7?
 
Re: RRRRGGHHH!!! Yet another station commits the **CENSORED** unpardonable sin!

romer979fm said:
isn't Radio Disney on XM?


Yes, and I could afford the monthly fee, but the carry-around XM radios haven't come down in price to under $50, yet.

I also wouldn't mind running a part 15 C-Quam operation with a Radio Disney feed, but I can't have the computer connected to it 24/7, and even when I do I get a lot of dropouts, even though I have a > 200kbyte/s cable connection.


Oh, and SuperRadioFan, what are you talking about? :p
 
Heh heh you know I'm just kiddin' 'round with ya ;)

Long time DXer here in The OC ... I remember back in New Jersey picking up KFI ... those WERE the days never to return. Also got KSL regularly in NJ after (then) WJJD signed off.

But I hear you on the hash..it really sucks! And AM radio stations on HD sound horrible on an analog radio.
 
Re: RRRRGGHHH!!! Yet another station commits the **CENSORED** unpardonable sin!

SuperRadioFan said:
Heh heh you know I'm just kiddin' 'round with ya ;)

Long time DXer here in The OC ... I remember back in New Jersey picking up KFI ... those WERE the days never to return. Also got KSL regularly in NJ after (then) WJJD signed off.

But I hear you on the hash..it really sucks! And AM radio stations on HD sound horrible on an analog radio.

Yea... and it's especially bad 4 me on this station, cause KMIK is the best (nighttime) Disney signal into San Diego - often like a local - I'd even venture to guess its skywave sometimes achieves the 10mV/m that David Eduardo says is necessary for clear city reception...

Yea, the current HD system is flawed, too.
My requirements for a digital AM system include, but are not limited to:
analog stereo can still be used at full (10kHz, preferably wider) bandwidth
no trace of the digital signal can be heard on an analog radio (for example, if the station is digital only, the analog receiver acts as if there's no signal there, even if you're right next to the transmitter)
the digital system has audio compression at least as good of a quality as LAME mp3 codec (for example, 32khz 128kbps stereo, 22khz 64kbps stereo both sound pretty good to me)
no more spectrum is used than is absolutely necessary for each station - I'm not sure if it would be 1kHz for each 10kbps or 8kbps or what, but outside the range necessary, there should be at least a 144dB per station's 1/10th bandwidth drop in signal.
also, it needs to be efficient - for example, take an analog station with 5000ms/m conductivity, a full-wave antenna with a full ground radial system, and go to where the signal is barely detectable (meaning you can tell there's something there, but it's too weak to ID) using a $10k communications receiver with a specially tuned longwire antenna at night (assuming there's nothing else on the same or nearby frequencies), and using a $100 digital receiver with its built-in antenna in almost the same circumstances (except that the transmitting antenna would be changed to 1/8 wave without a ground plane, and the conductivity would be dropped to 0.1ms/m) would get a crystal clear digital signal without any dropouts or reduction in bitrate.
also, it needs to allow for multiple stations on the same frequency - for example if all the graveyards went to 50kW with fullwave antennas and groundplanes, you should be able to pick which station you want to hear if multiple ones are coming in simultaneously.
Let's see... anything else I left out?


I haven't actually gotten a chance to listen to it, but based on it not seeming to affect analog coverage much if at all, I don't really have much to complain about with FM HD. Now, if it affects my ability to receive a -30dBu station while 0.2MHz next to a 120dBu station, that could be a problem...
 
tfcwings said:
1300 WRDZ Chicago, IL - Is this one still broadcasting C-Quam, or have they shut it off?

WRDZ LaGrange-Chicago isn't running HD Radio yet, but I haven't heard any presence of C-QUAM on AM 1300 for a long time. My guess is that Disney is already gearing up WRDZ for HD Radio.
 
tfc most xm receivers have a low power fm transmitter... from my car i can hear mine over my entire house...

also i noticed on ebay a cradle with battery, internal antenna, and fm radio (that you plug headphones into) that the roady 2 can connect to
you can find a roady 2 for about 10 bucks.
 
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