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RTV gains a station, loses one

Just curious....is the "LATV" subchannel going belly up? WKMG getting RTV, WPLG adding MeTV next month, both having LATV, just wondering....or if they are each adding a sub.

cd
 
cd637299 said:
Just curious....is the "LATV" subchannel going belly up? WKMG getting RTV, WPLG adding MeTV next month, both having LATV, just wondering....or if they are each adding a sub.

cd

That was my question as well. Or, maybe it's the case of LATV's programming not fitting in with the demographics of the Florida Hispanic (LATV seems to program more towards Hispanics of Mexican descent). Could co-owned WJXT in Jacksonville be next (they are a "two subchannel" station, they could just drop LATV as a part of the deployment of mobile DTV by major station groups)?

LATV is backed by the CEO of Entravision and is carried on many of Entravision's Univision affiliates. I don't think it's going away any time soon.
 
Eric Stein said:
cd637299 said:
Just curious....is the "LATV" subchannel going belly up? WKMG getting RTV, WPLG adding MeTV next month, both having LATV, just wondering....or if they are each adding a sub.

cd

That was my question as well. Or, maybe it's the case of LATV's programming not fitting in with the demographics of the Florida Hispanic (LATV seems to program more towards Hispanics of Mexican descent). Could co-owned WJXT in Jacksonville be next (they are a "two subchannel" station, they could just drop LATV as a part of the deployment of mobile DTV by major station groups)?

LATV is backed by the CEO of Entravision and is carried on many of Entravision's Univision affiliates. I don't think it's going away any time soon.

If WKMG drops it, it probably would be picked up WVEN on a subchannel or picked by it's LPTV simulcaster WVEN-LP (which I have not seen lately, has it's antenna on the WKMG STL tower)
 
The big problem with WKMG is that RTV really can't claim a 'get' in that market. As anyone around the time of the Casey Anthony trial knows, all the Orlando stations bumped their network programming down to the .2's, and even after that WKMG is a very heavy pre-empter for breaking news and found that people are getting into the habit of bumping to .2 for their daytime programming. So it's more a deck chair shift for RTV; they get clearance in Orlando, and WKMG gets a network that people won't complain about missing shows when they pre-empt The New Zorro and Movin' On.
 
mgsports said:
We are waiting for KC Station to add it and others.

Just like the Phoenix area is waiting for Antenna TV to come. I'm starting to believe that the whole mobile DTV deployment thing, which seems to be eerily similar to what radio groups went through with HD Radio, is holding up some stations from making subchannel decisions.
 
Just as a clarification about WPSD: the article states Antenna TV going to 6.3. RTV is currently on 6.2, so RTV may still be there once they add Antenna.
 
Eric Stein said:
Just as a clarification about WPSD: the article states Antenna TV going to 6.3. RTV is currently on 6.2, so RTV may still be there once they add Antenna.

I was just coming to point that out. The noted cable channels all point to the weather subchannel, not RTV, being replaced.

mrschimpf said:
The big problem with WKMG is that RTV really can't claim a 'get' in that market. As anyone around the time of the Casey Anthony trial knows, all the Orlando stations bumped their network programming down to the .2's, and even after that WKMG is a very heavy pre-empter for breaking news and found that people are getting into the habit of bumping to .2 for their daytime programming. So it's more a deck chair shift for RTV; they get clearance in Orlando, and WKMG gets a network that people won't complain about missing shows when they pre-empt The New Zorro and Movin' On.

I disagree. As far as we (RTV) are concerned, it is most definitely a great place for us. :)

James Westerfield said:
If WKMG drops it, it probably would be picked up WVEN on a subchannel or picked by it's LPTV simulcaster WVEN-LP (which I have not seen lately, has it's antenna on the WKMG STL tower)

I concur. I expect to see LATV pop up on WVEN 26-3. Miami and San Antonio, on the other hand, don't have Entravision stations, so who knows what the plan is there.

- Trip
 
Eric Stein said:
cd637299 said:
Just curious....is the "LATV" subchannel going belly up? WKMG getting RTV, WPLG adding MeTV next month, both having LATV, just wondering....or if they are each adding a sub.

cd

That was my question as well. Or, maybe it's the case of LATV's programming not fitting in with the demographics of the Florida Hispanic (LATV seems to program more towards Hispanics of Mexican descent). Could co-owned WJXT in Jacksonville be next (they are a "two subchannel" station, they could just drop LATV as a part of the deployment of mobile DTV by major station groups)?

LATV is backed by the CEO of Entravision and is carried on many of Entravision's Univision affiliates. I don't think it's going away any time soon.

In Chicago, when WGN-TV (along with other Tribune stations that carried LATV) dropped LATV, WOCK-CD immediately picked up the network. However, it's on a poor signal station, with WOCK-CD being on RF 4. I however don't see any full power station picking up the network. So LATV has to settle for the station that carries them. In other markets, I don't know what will happen if that station drops the network. For Florida, I don't know what the percentage of the hispanic population is Mexican, but Miami has more Cubans than Mexicans, & a good chance the network doesn't appeal to them. I know in Chicago, most of the Spanish language stations focus more on Mexicans than Puerto Ricans or other Hispanic ethnicities. Now for RTV, they'll never see a full power station picking up any of their networks, as none of them would pickup any network run by Luken. Polnet (WPVN-CD) was the only company that would pickup RTV in Chicagoland.
 
Buddy Ebsen of 'The Beverly Hillbillies' came from Orlando.
Fans of classic television are in luck. Starting Sunday, WKMG will start offering Retro Television (RTV), which presents series from the 1960s, ’70s and ’80s.

The titles include “Highway to Heaven,” “Starsky and Hutch,” “Lassie,” “The Beverly Hillbillies,” “Fat Albert,” “The Archies” and “Police Story.”

Viewers can find RTV on Bright House digital channel 1061, over-the-air digital channel 6.2, Comcast channel 220 and Florida Cable channel 14.12.

“We are very excited to bring RTV to Central Florida,” WKMG General Manager Skip Valet said. “This channel is unique in that it will allow families to gather around the television and watch great family programming any time of the day and night. We are proud to introduce these classics to a whole new audience. And, for those who remember these shows, it will be exciting to enjoy them all over again.”

If RTV is familiar, that’s because WRDQ had offered the channel, but dropped it in September in favor of Antenna TV, another channel presenting vintage series. WESH offers MeTV (Memorable Entertainment TV), another nostalgic channel.
 
Orlando was a hick town till Disney came. It was known for Oranges and for trying to get the state capital moved from Talahassee to Orlando.

Florida has three main areas of Hispanic population: Miami-Dade and Broward are majority Cuban (majority of Hispanic not majority of total). South Central Florida - Palm Beach, Lee, Collier and the counties around Lake Okeechobee are majority Central American and Caribbean Hispanic. Mexican also are also found here. This place has the largest number of estimated illegal immigrants. Most are farm laborers. The Daytona-Orlando-Tampa Bay area is Hispanic Puerto Rican. Again Mexicans are also found here in large numbers, but up here they are hotel workers and usually legal immigrants. Indeed Puerto Ricans increased over 57% since 2010 and now form the fastest growing Hispanic group.

As for Hispanic the Census 2010 breaks Florida's Hispanics down like this:

Other Hispanic: 1.6 million
Cuban: 1.2 million
Puerto Rican: 847,000
Mexican: 629,000

(Other Hispanic includes, Central American, Caribbean, South American and European ancestry. Also note the category is self defined by the person filling out the census form. So a person of mixed Cuban and Mexican ancestry would be able to self choose which category they wanted to go into)

Source (US Census: 2010)

The Election Commission estimates 49% of the Hispanic population is eligible to vote. (Note: This would not include anyone who is eligible to vote but not eligible in Florida. For instance a migrant worker who was registered in California, and is a citizen, would not be eligible to vote in Florida but would still be able to vote in California)
 
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