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Rumor: Ronn leaving for L.A. Brian taking his time slot.

I'm not in the business.
And I heard from someone (a coworker & former KGO listener) who's not in the business and probably has no friends in the business that he heard a rumor that Ronn Owens has been talking to a Los Angeles area station owner/manager. The station is trying to (and is about to?) buy out Ronn's contract and he'll be leaving KGO soon and Brian Copeland will take his 9-noon slot.

Anyway, what do you think will happen to Ronn when his contract ends? He'll stay at KGO for less money? He'll leave for less money? He'll retire? For sure, Ronn has to be working on something.
 
HCochet said:
I'm not in the business.
And I heard from someone (a coworker & former KGO listener) who's not in the business and probably has no friends in the business that he heard a rumor that Ronn Owens has been talking to a Los Angeles area station owner/manager. The station is trying to (and is about to?) buy out Ronn's contract and he'll be leaving KGO soon and Brian Copeland will take his 9-noon slot.

Ronn was in LA, on KABC, some years ago and it did not work out.

KABC and KGO are co-owned.

The significant talk station in LA is KFI. They neither have an opening nor the political slant that Ronn Owens has. Beyond KFI, all the talk "challengers" in LA are signal impaired, including KABC.

The "rumor" you made up makes no sense.
 
DavidEduardo said:
HCochet said:
I'm not in the business.
And I heard from someone (a coworker & former KGO listener) who's not in the business and probably has no friends in the business that he heard a rumor that Ronn Owens has been talking to a Los Angeles area station owner/manager. The station is trying to (and is about to?) buy out Ronn's contract and he'll be leaving KGO soon and Brian Copeland will take his 9-noon slot.

Ronn was in LA, on KABC, some years ago and it did not work out.

KABC and KGO are co-owned.

The significant talk station in LA is KFI. They neither have an opening nor the political slant that Ronn Owens has. Beyond KFI, all the talk "challengers" in LA are signal impaired, including KABC.

The "rumor" you made up makes no sense.

I don't know what "makes no sense" about it. If we like him here, they'll like him there. Things change a lot in radio and there's no reason a station might not hire a new person with a new "slant".
I didn't make it up. A coworker from produce dept, (I'm meat dept) told me he had heard that. He and I have talked a couple times about KGO because were both long time listeners and both dislike the changes. He thought I'd like to know what he'd heard.
Yes, I remember Ronn used to work in Los Angeles. He flew there and back every week working at both stations for about a year and didn't like it.
How about answering my question? The one asking where you think he'll go when his KGO contract is up.
 
HCochet said:
I don't know what "makes no sense" about it. If we like him here, they'll like him there. Things change a lot in radio and there's no reason a station might not hire a new person with a new "slant".
I didn't make it up. A coworker from produce dept, (I'm meat dept) told me he had heard that. He and I have talked a couple times about KGO because were both long time listeners and both dislike the changes. He thought I'd like to know what he'd heard.
Yes, I remember Ronn used to work in Los Angeles. He flew there and back every week working at both stations for about a year and didn't like it.
How about answering my question? The one asking where you think he'll go when his KGO contract is up.

This is clearly a troll, a poor one at that, but what the hell, let's humor you.

First, "If we like him here, they'll like him there" is your first flaw, we don't like him here. Owens may have been relevant at one point, but in retrospect, much of that relevance was likely because he lucked into a job at a powerhouse station. As KGO has lost it's powerhouse status since the firings last December Owens' ratings have plummeted. No big market station will be interested in a 60-something personality that can't pull in the numbers. Have you listened lately? I've tried but I can't take it for more than a couple of minutes. He's atrocious, the subjects are lame, he can't pull in decent guests any more, and he sounds like a neutered billy goat.

At one point he probably had the industry creds to get hired by a decent station through one of his buddies, but that's gone too. In addition to listeners not liking him, industry insiders don't like him either. His abandonment of his "friends" after the KGO changes, and the constant sucking sounds as he kisses corporate asses have ruined his reputation.

Too answer your question, "Where will he go when his contract is up?", there's a couple of options. If he hasn't invested his money wisely, which I suspect, he'll need to find something. Maybe a small market station in the boonies, or a small station no-one can pick up in a larger market. If he kisses enough corporate butt Cumulus may syndicate him as filler, but that's unlikely IMHO. Either way, it'll be at a fraction of his current salary. His best hope is his friendship with a big advertiser (SleepTrain?) could be enough of carrot to get him on the air somewhere. Out of those options, my guess is he'll end up on a small station in a big market, not be successful, and last a year or two at most.

If he has saved his money, he'll probably retire and we'll see him hanging out a restaurants talking about the old days. Maybe he'll write an op-ed piece for sfgate every now and then, and sometime in 2015 there'll be a "What ever happened to Ronn Owens" post right here.
 
I don't see Ronn Fitting in doing an LA Talk radio show. Sure He is good for San Francisco but I hope i'm proven wrong here. I know his KABC show did not last for that long. But then we had a former WCBS 880 Anchor Gil Gross manage to do a KGO-AM talk show and anchor the ABC National news at the same time before he went to KKSF 910.
 
recto101
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This is clearly a troll, a poor one at that, but what the hell, let's humor you.

First, "If we like him here, they'll like him there" is your first flaw, we don't like him here.
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Sir/Ma'am,
I'm not a troll. You probably don't know the meaning. All my posts are on topic and I'm not a spamer.
You're not humorous
I like Ronn's show.
 
HCochet said:
I don't know what "makes no sense" about it. If we like him here, they'll like him there. Things change a lot in radio and there's no reason a station might not hire a new person with a new "slant".

Pay attention to what David E says. The stations are co-owned. If Cumulus dumps him from his vastly expensive contract at KGO they're not about to rehire him at KABC.

Secondly, he already had a shot in LA and he didn't do well. With the talk market so competitive it's doubtful that any station except KIEV (are they still in business?) would take a chance on Ronn Owens.

When he leaves KGO I expect he'll retire.
 
HCochet said:
I don't know what "makes no sense" about it. If we like him here, they'll like him there.

But they did not like him in LA when he was on in LA. In the PPM world, it would be harder... they don't like him in SF as much as they did in the past, either.

So much has been written about how different SF and LA are that I can add nothing new. Suffice it to say that, in talk, what works in one generally does not work in the other.

I didn't make it up. A coworker from produce dept, (I'm meat dept) told me he had heard that.

That gives me much more confidence in the R.U.M.O.R.

How about answering my question? The one asking where you think he'll go when his KGO contract is up.

If I were him, I would retire. I am sure that Mickey (Mouse and Lukoff) made his prospects for an enjoyable and affluent retirement a true probability.
 
DavidKaye said:
Secondly, he already had a shot in LA and he didn't do well. With the talk market so competitive it's doubtful that any station except KIEV (are they still in business?) would take a chance on Ronn Owens.

KIEV is now KRLA, and Salem-Owned. They are somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun.
 
kirksan said:
As KGO has lost it's powerhouse status since the firings last December Owens' ratings have plummeted. No big market station will be interested in a 60-something personality that can't pull in the numbers.

Good point, as was your whole posting. Owens' show is averaging outside the top 20 in 25-54. While all talk (KNBR, KCBS, KQED) is all in the 10th to 15th general range in the daypart, KGO and Owens are at a totally different and depressing level.
 
I'm dubious, but I'm also going to give the original poster the benefit of the doubt. He's posted 66 times on R-I, and he's not claiming to have inside information...he says a guy in the produce department where he works heard a rumor.

Here's the key phrase in the original post..."an owner/manager of a Los Angeles station."

As far as I know, there's only one of those. Could Saul Levine be up to something again?
 
michael hagerty said:
I'm dubious, but I'm also going to give the original poster the benefit of the doubt. He's posted 66 times on R-I, and he's not claiming to have inside information...he says a guy in the produce department where he works heard a rumor.

Here's the key phrase in the original post..."an owner/manager of a Los Angeles station."

As far as I know, there's only one of those. Could Saul Levine be up to something again?

Thank you Michael.

When I wrote "owner/manager" I meant "someone". I don't know his/her title would be. I guess it was the owner or the manager and I didn't mean to imply the owner is the manager. I don't know the term for the person who Ronn was supposedly talking to.
I had joined R-I several years ago and made a few posts. Stopped for a while and when I came back, my username and password didn't work.
I rejoined under what may be the original name. I'm in so many forums (cars, meat cutting, TENNIS), I forget.
There is a local radio forum that starts with "BA" that I went to a lot, but a genuine troll has ruined it. If you (the person who said I might be one) want to know what a real troll is, go there. I like it here better.
 
Yes, Owens bombed in LA, but I don't think it was all his fault. He was trying to replace a legendary talk host who was being pushed aside and not every one liked that. Had Owens come to LA under different circumstances he might have done well. But that was along time ago, and his time may have passed..
 
calguy said:
Yes, Owens bombed in LA, but I don't think it was all his fault. He was trying to replace a legendary talk host who was being pushed aside and not every one liked that. Had Owens come to LA under different circumstances he might have done well. But that was along time ago, and his time may have passed..

He said on the air (KGO) that he quit the LA job because it was too hard to do all that flying from SF to LA and back every day (week?). He didn't say anything about bombing. But I guess he wouldnt put it that way true or not.
 
calguy said:
Yes, Owens bombed in LA, but I don't think it was all his fault. He was trying to replace a legendary talk host who was being pushed aside...

Management pushed Michael Jackson aside after the bulk of listeners did the same... just as they did to Joe Pyne before him.

The fact was clear, though, that Owens' style and content did not ring any bells in LA, and the show ended, as they say in Spanish, without pity and without glory.
 
I can see Ronn hooking up with 910 AM, and being heavily promoted as their big "star," but KQED - forget it. Definitiely out of his depth as DK says.

BTW - I believe Michael Jackson - the man Ronn ousted at KABC - is now a regular contributor to NPR statiion KPCC, though I'm not sure in what capacity. Of course, Jackson has that erudite intelligence thing going for him. Ronn - not.
 
Lkeller said:
BTW - I believe Michael Jackson - the man Ronn ousted at KABC - is now a regular contributor to NPR statiion KPCC, though I'm not sure in what capacity. Of course, Jackson has that erudite intelligence thing going for him. Ronn - not.

I suppose Jackson was an acquired taste. To me, he was just a borderline pompous ass with a "classy" Brit accent.
 
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