Russ Martin is innocent until proven guilty

[arnoldevns]

I am not a fan of Russ Martin's program. I don't care much for him at all. I don't listen to 105.3.
However, I am absolutely appalled at what I have read here regarding this guy.

I read the arrest affidavit. It's bad, but it's also an arrest affidavit. It is not testimony in a court of law.
There has been no trial. No jury has returned a verdict. Heck, he hasn't even been indicted by a grand jury.
There has been nothing other than a complaint and an arrest.

You people have jumped to conclusions based on incomplete information. That is unfair and you should be smarter than that.

He may be guilty as sin, but let's let the judicial system decide that. Let the man have his day in court. Russ Martin is innocent until proven guilty.

 

[Dndsh237]

I'm not surprised by any of it, considering this is a discussion board. That's what we are all here to do, discuss.

 

[SirFreebie1975]

I'm not surprised by any of it, considering this is a discussion board. That's what we are all here to do, discuss.

discussing it is one thing but jumping to conclusions is another.

 

[WheredidMergeGo]

I'm not surprised by any of it, considering this is a discussion board. That's what we are all here to do, discuss.

Discuss or accuse and assume?

I have seen very little discussion and plenty of attacks.

 

[Dndsh237]

I'm not surprised by any of it, considering this is a discussion board. That's what we are all here to do, discuss.

discussing it is one thing but jumping to conclusions is another.

One in the same. Think of RI as a bar. We're all hanging out discussing it while enjoying some... errrrr uh I hate to use the word beer.

 

[MSTJedi]

I'm not surprised by any of it, considering this is a discussion board. That's what we are all here to do, discuss.

discussing it is one thing but jumping to conclusions is another.

One in the same. Think of RI as a bar. We're all hanging out discussing it while enjoying some... errrrr uh I hate to use the word beer.

What, do you prefer "cerveza"?

 

[Dndsh237]

I'm not surprised by any of it, considering this is a discussion board. That's what we are all here to do, discuss.

discussing it is one thing but jumping to conclusions is another.

One in the same. Think of RI as a bar. We're all hanging out discussing it while enjoying some... errrrr uh I hate to use the word beer.

What, do you prefer "cerveza"?

Coke & Rum? Scotch & Soda? Pina Colada..... Oh hell just pass me some bottled water. ;D

 

[WheredidMergeGo]

I'm not surprised by any of it, considering this is a discussion board. That's what we are all here to do, discuss.

discussing it is one thing but jumping to conclusions is another.

One in the same. Think of RI as a bar. We're all hanging out discussing it while enjoying some... errrrr uh I hate to use the word beer.

What, do you prefer "cerveza"?

Coke & Rum? Scotch & Soda? Pina Colada..... Oh hell just pass me some bottled water. ;D

all of the above please?!

 

[marksman]

That is the standard to determine if he goes to jail or not.

It is not the standard required to not listen to his radio show, or to no longer employ him to do a radio show.

From what I have seen and given the parties involved, I have enough information to convince me I need not bother ever listening to him do radio again.

I don't need him to be proven guilty in a court of law for that, nor does he deserve that nor has he earned that level of regard.

I would say in fact his behavior and talk on the radio for the past 20 years makes all this all the less palatable. If you are going to actually joking around about abusing women, you better have the squeakiest clean life in that regards that anyone has seen.

Joking about it and then doing it make you look like you are less than human.

 

[WheredidMergeGo]

That is the standard to determine if he goes to jail or not.

It is not the standard required to not listen to his radio show, or to no longer employ him to do a radio show.

From what I have seen and given the parties involved, I have enough information to convince me I need not bother ever listening to him do radio again.

I don't need him to be proven guilty in a court of law for that, nor does he deserve that nor has he earned that level of regard.

I would say in fact his behavior and talk on the radio for the past 20 years makes all this all the less palatable. If you are going to actually joking around about abusing women, you better have the squeakiest clean life in that regards that anyone has seen.

Joking about it and then doing it make you look like you are less than human.

Well at least you are making an informed decision based on two sides of a story!

 

[MSTJedi]

That is the standard to determine if he goes to jail or not.

It is not the standard required to not listen to his radio show, or to no longer employ him to do a radio show.

From what I have seen and given the parties involved, I have enough information to convince me I need not bother ever listening to him do radio again.

I don't need him to be proven guilty in a court of law for that, nor does he deserve that nor has he earned that level of regard.

I would say in fact his behavior and talk on the radio for the past 20 years makes all this all the less palatable. If you are going to actually joking around about abusing women, you better have the squeakiest clean life in that regards that anyone has seen.

Joking about it and then doing it make you look like you are less than human.

Gotta love how in the "best of" show today, they played a segment where Russ was defending pimps beating their prostitutes.

 

[CollegeGraduate08]

What gets me is people STILL believe this is a stunt! How stupid can one be after the police has released information and the media uses their time to write about this, but NO it is a STUNT.

 

[marksman]

That is the standard to determine if he goes to jail or not.

It is not the standard required to not listen to his radio show, or to no longer employ him to do a radio show.

From what I have seen and given the parties involved, I have enough information to convince me I need not bother ever listening to him do radio again.

I don't need him to be proven guilty in a court of law for that, nor does he deserve that nor has he earned that level of regard.

I would say in fact his behavior and talk on the radio for the past 20 years makes all this all the less palatable. If you are going to actually joking around about abusing women, you better have the squeakiest clean life in that regards that anyone has seen.

Joking about it and then doing it make you look like you are less than human.

Well at least you are making an informed decision based on two sides of a story!

I am assuming the best case scenario for his side of the story.

Russ' side. I did nothing. She made it all up, none of it is true. I did ask her if she called the IRS but that is it.

Anything short of that being the truth on his behalf means he is guilty. Assuming that will be his story, I don't believe him...

So as you can see I am considering both sides of the story. The problem is it doesn't matter what his side of the story is, because unless he has a tape recording of her claiming she is going to frame him for abuse there is nothing he can say to balance things out. Her story is simply way too believable.

 

[MikeShannon914]

As one whose "difficulties" with Russ go back over 25 years, and as one who was embarrassingly taken to task on the air five years ago and fired from CBS over comments I made about Russ on this very board, AND as someone who was chewed out on another post on this same subject yesterday, I'll say this, and then will leave the subject alone---I get NO joy or satisfaction out of this whole deal. Several people emailed and texted me over the last couple of days with congratulatory-type messages over Russ getting 'what he deserves' and 'payback is a b!tch.' I wouldn't wish this kind of trouble on anyone. If he did indeed do what the report says he did, then justice will be served, one way or another. If I had the power to say how his career would end, it'd be with a fair fight to the bloody end, with the better station/show/personality as the winner.

Sure, I'm not a fan, I hardly ever listen to his show, and I've wondered sporadically over the years why HE made it and I didn't. I don't hide that. We were two guys working at Pizza Inn a quarter-century back; he was the smart-ass guy who was going to broadcasting school and dialing up the restaurant from KGVL or KTER and laying the receiver next to the monitor so the cooks and waitresses could pick up the phone and listen in while he did his thing on the air. Me, I went another route; he stuck with it and made it. And getting me fired from CBS five years ago was the best thing that could have ever happened...I've had more on-air exposure and opportunities and great things happen since then that NEVER would have happened otherwise. I know that wasn't the intention by him or CBS, but things did indeed work out for me...so it's a little hard to stay bitter about past "difficulties." Even his recent rants against my Retro Radio format got me 300 extra hits on the website that day...hence the 'no publicity is bad publicity' credo that's worked to my favor more than once.

So please, don't count me in as some ringleader of a 'hang 'em high' movement. I'm willing to let justice be served and see what happens.

 

[CollegeGraduate08]

You are way cuter than he is. ;D I had to say that. Gosh, it is so sad to hear how everyone got burned by Russ. I know of other people who did too.

 

[mtater98]

Agreed he is innocent until proven guilty. Granted it looks like Amy has a good case, but it will be he said she said. More then likely Russ will plea down, pay a fine, community service, and probation. No Jail time.

I really don't see him getting pulled off 105.3 unless his sponsors pull out of RMS.

 

[marksman]

Come on Mike.. We know your resume hit CBS this morning.

 

[Dndsh237]

Agreed he is innocent until proven guilty. Granted it looks like Amy has a good case, but it will be he said she said. More then likely Russ will plea down, pay a fine, community service, and probation. No Jail time.

I really don't see him getting pulled off 105.3 unless his sponsors pull out of RMS.

That might already be happening. I know if I was an advertiser on his show, I'd want out at least until the case ends. I would not want to be associated in any way with a broadcasting company who employes a jock that has been charged with DA.

 

[NealH]

I don't think I've seen it posted anywhere but the thread's topic is true. Russ doesn't have to prove his innocence in this matter, the prosecution has to prove he did it beyond a reasonable doubt.

I'm not a Russ fan, myself, but guys and gals he's facing serious prison time here. A second-degree felony conviction in the state of Texas carries with it a 2-20 year prison term and a $50,000 fine. I've seen the affidavit and the charges in it are damning, but until Russ has his day in court, they're just allegations.

Now my personal 2 cents - because he's been charged with a felony and is facing criminal prosecution he should step aside until the completion of his proceedings. If CBS were smart they'd suspend him with pay pending the outcome of the trial. If he's convicted you terminate him, and if he's acquitted you lift the suspension.

 

[scottythecynic]

I'm just curious to know why people are laying the hypocrite here with regards to Russ Martin?

I don't and never have liked him - I'll say that.

But isn't it striking that people will jump all over Joe Citizen on the news when he steals an ATM, molests a kid or shoots a cop. Then it's time "to hang them or throw away the key."

But Russ gets a pass, right?

Hypocrites.