RXP 101-"POINT NINE"

[NoMoreLurking]

Another 0.9 showing for RXP in PPM.

It's not growing. Not getting better. Emmis - cutting jobs, cutting salaries of those who still have jobs. This is painful to watch. How much longer?

 

[magicjellybeans]

Why all these DIE 101.9 die threads?Perhaps maybe theres some people out there that LIKE RXP ,the PPM meter doesnt reflect all of the world!Every day theres a thread on this ,this is getting old.Wait and see what happens already- I dont see them pulling the plug ,do you? Maybe try writing Emmis a letter will work better.

 

[DToTheJ]

Every day theres a thread on this ,this is getting old.

So were the station's demos under smooth jazz, which is why they made the change.

 

[hamNcheese]

Why all these DIE 101.9 die threads?

1. people that want some other format.

2. people that applied and didn't get hired.

 

[neo11]

3. People who see that a station with a train wreck of a music mix isn't working and which gives a bad reputation to rock radio in the process. Honestly, mixing Led Zepellin with the Cold War Kids, Linkin Park, Aerosmith and Depeche Mode just isn't working. It's not AAA, it's not classic rock, it's not new rock...it's a jumble of all of the above and explains the pathetic ratings.

 

[nd2023]

I wonder if WNYZ is doing better in the PPMs than 'RXP.

Of course, RXP is advertising a lot, I even saw an ad for them in the Atlantic City bus station! Way to go!

 

[davideduardo]

I wonder if WNYZ is doing better in the PPMs than 'RXP.

Of course, RXP is advertising a lot, I even saw an ad for them in the Atlantic City bus station! Way to go!

WNYZ is not in the PPM radio survey, as it is a tv station. However, the cume reported for WNYZ in a separate study is about half that of WRXP.

 

[leethalweapon]

Every day theres a thread on this ,this is getting old.

Hmmm... I liken this group to your average talk radio jock. NEVER HAPPY. Want proof?

1, WCBS V1.0. - They didn't stop bitching.
2, WCBS flip to JACK. - 18 months of non stop bitching.
3, JACK flip to WCBS V2.0. - While happy, they were still bitching about CBS managemnt.
4, WCBS V2.0's music. - Not enough 60's... Too much 80's... Why are the playing Hip-Hop? Blah Blah Blah

...and don't get me started on their hatred of WXRK.

 

[Channel Surf]

3. People who see that a station with a train wreck of a music mix isn't working and which gives a bad reputation to rock radio in the process. Honestly, mixing Led Zepellin with the Cold War Kids, Linkin Park, Aerosmith and Depeche Mode just isn't working. It's not AAA, it's not classic rock, it's not new rock...it's a jumble of all of the above and explains the pathetic ratings.

Bad reputation??? The only bad reputation is New York City radio and how it can't support more than one rock station! You guys should be glad to finally have three rockers again! It only took about a decade since the demise of WNEW.
Personally...I would listen to WRXP...maybe not constantly...but alot. The format is reminiscent of the old WNEW-FM or the old WBCN-Boston formats of the 70s/early 80s...God forbid that they aren't just trying to program for a niche...right???

 

[neo11]

Bad reputation??? The only bad reputation is New York City radio and how it can't support more than one rock station! You guys should be glad to finally have three rockers again! It only took about a decade since the demise of WNEW.
Personally...I would listen to WRXP...maybe not constantly...but alot. The format is reminiscent of the old WNEW-FM or the old WBCN-Boston formats of the 70s/early 80s...God forbid that they aren't just trying to program for a niche...right???

If someone wants to see rock radio survive in NYC with more than one station, then they have good reason not to be happy with 'RXP, because their programming is the cause for their pathetic ratings. I think many people here feel that a more focused rock station that would avoid the type of music already heard on K-Rock or Q104.3 would likely do better. At the very least, seeing how bad 'RXP's ratings have been, it would be worth a shot. Beyond that...it's not the quantity of the rock stations, it's the quality.

1, WCBS V1.0. - They didn't stop bitching.
2, WCBS flip to JACK. - 18 months of non stop bitching.
3, JACK flip to WCBS V2.0. - While happy, they were still bitching about CBS managemnt.
4, WCBS V2.0's music. - Not enough 60's... Too much 80's... Why are the playing Hip-Hop? Blah Blah Blah

...and don't get me started on their hatred of WXRK.

You're right about the CBS-FM and Jack FM bitching...I've been making that point here on these boards as well.

However, I don't think there's a "hatred" of WXRK. It's just not a very good station. If it disappeared tomorrow, some people would be upset but I don't think we would see the same kind of outcry that there was when CBS-FM was jacked. As it stands, it's a station with low ratings but which does not seem to have changed any focus at all since coming back on the air.

WNYZ is not in the PPM radio survey, as it is a tv station. However, the cume reported for WNYZ in a separate study is about half that of WRXP.

What about the time spent listening? Because it was reported that Pulse would have been around 24th (?) in the market a month or two ago, if it were added to the radio survey. That would likely put it in RXP territory. Is it possible that Pulse's TSL is higher than RXP's? It's quite possible, seeing how unfocused 'RXP's music is...I could see people, on average, switching away from it relatively quickly.

 

[Brooklyndon]

they need to choose whether they are targeting boomers, xers, or millenials. Until then their perception will keep them in all three groups inert set.

 

[p_herring]

3. People who see that a station with a train wreck of a music mix isn't working and which gives a bad reputation to rock radio in the process. Honestly, mixing Led Zepellin with the Cold War Kids, Linkin Park, Aerosmith and Depeche Mode just isn't working. It's not AAA, it's not classic rock, it's not new rock...it's a jumble of all of the above and explains the pathetic ratings.

Yup and that's why it's so frustrating. It'd be great to have a station to call "ours" but, instead, we have to make room for the dinosaur boomer rock (Zeppelin, Aerosmith) already heard on Q and some of the butt-rock stuff (Staind, Lifehouse). I can't fathom why anyone with any radio experience would think this is a good diea.

 

[magicjellybeans]

Ok so RXP doesnt exactly fit a "demo" but WLIR 92.7 was all over the place with new wave,rock and various 80s bands and it lasted a long time.Maybe RXP is daring to be different.... ;D

 

[leethalweapon]

Yup and that's why it's so frustrating. It'd be great to have a station to call "ours" but, instead, we have to make room for the dinosaur boomer rock (Zeppelin, Aerosmith) already heard on Q and some of the butt-rock stuff (Staind, Lifehouse). I can't fathom why anyone with any radio experience would think this is a good diea.

I listen online, and if I were in NYC, I would be part of the troublesome 0.9%. It is pretty much how my ipod sounds.

 

[John Waywoods]

It is a very good station. I still like the Peak better.

 

[hamNcheese]

3. People who see that a station with a train wreck of a music mix isn't working and which gives a bad reputation to rock radio in the process. Honestly, mixing Led Zepellin with the Cold War Kids, Linkin Park, Aerosmith and Depeche Mode just isn't working. It's not AAA, it's not classic rock, it's not new rock...it's a jumble of all of the above and explains the pathetic ratings.

So its a rock station? What a novel idea!

I would like to see what their #s are in their target demo.

the 12+ is useless.

 

[neo11]

Ok so RXP doesnt exactly fit a "demo" but WLIR 92.7 was all over the place with new wave,rock and various 80s bands and it lasted a long time.Maybe RXP is daring to be different.... ;D

Maybe in the end, but in its heyday, LIR was pretty focused on the new wave/alternative music of the day. I would venture to say that even in its last days on 92.7, though, 'LIR was far more focused than 'RXP. The music was dayparted, for one thing. What you heard them play at 12 noon was different from what you heard them play at midnight, but it was consistent from day to day. With 'RXP, it's a roulette wheel of all sorts of different rock that has different kinds of fans and very little overlap, 24-7. Those who want to hear Nickleback might not want to hear Led Zep, and those who want to hear Led Zep might not want to hear the Cold War Kids, and those who want to hear the Cold War Kids may not want to hear Aerosmith, but that's pretty much the format of the station anytime you tune in, and that's why so many people tune out.

Looking at RXP's ratings in the PPM, they rank #20 in cume but #29 in the shares. This leads me to believe that a lot of rock fans are tuning in, but they aren't staying tuned very long, because the music is all over the place. Hence a low TSL. And what's worse for them is that they're gaining no traction whatsoever...they actually went down from August to October in both cume and TSL.

 

[hamNcheese]

Ok so RXP doesnt exactly fit a "demo" but WLIR 92.7 was all over the place with new wave,rock and various 80s bands and it lasted a long time.Maybe RXP is daring to be different.... ;D

Maybe in the end, but in its heyday, LIR was pretty focused on the new wave/alternative music of the day. I would venture to say that even in its last days on 92.7, though, 'LIR was far more focused than 'RXP. The music was dayparted, for one thing. What you heard them play at 12 noon was different from what you heard them play at midnight, but it was consistent from day to day. With 'RXP, it's a roulette wheel of all sorts of different rock that has different kinds of fans and very little overlap, 24-7. Those who want to hear Nickleback might not want to hear Led Zep, and those who want to hear Led Zep might not want to hear the Cold War Kids, and those who want to hear the Cold War Kids may not want to hear Aerosmith, but that's pretty much the format of the station anytime you tune in, and that's why so many people tune out.

Looking at RXP's ratings in the PPM, they rank #20 in cume but #29 in the shares. This leads me to believe that a lot of rock fans are tuning in, but they aren't staying tuned very long, because the music is all over the place. Hence a low TSL. And what's worse for them is that they're gaining no traction whatsoever...they actually went down from August to October in both cume and TSL.

Do you have any #s that are not the 12+?

 

[buffalotom]

I just spent a week in L.A. on vacation.

I found myself stuck on The Sound 100.3 while I was down there. I initially was tuning in because I heard Krock's Julie Slater. But then kept tuning it in for the music. Great mix of Kings of Leon, Joe Jackson, Squeeze, Bush, Queen... and some newer stuff that I didn't recognize. Plus there was Clapton and I even heard Ray Charles.

They say they're Triple A, but was just a solid rock station. I must have said out loud, "Why can't WRXP sound like this." A HUNDRED TIMES!!!!

PS Julie sounds a little more laid back. Getting the hell out of NY must be doing her wonders! Always liked her on the air.

 

[p_herring]

I'm assuming the replies that actually support the station are from people who work there or have some sort of tie to the company. The fact remains the station is HORRIBLY unfocused and, as such, the ratings are proving this. Again, we have three rock stations in the NYC area all trying to compete for basically the same audience. The one that is performing the best is the one that sticks to serving it's core audience by playing what they WANT to hear (the classic rock). The two others can't decide if they want to be active rock/alternative/triple A or a hybrid of the three.

A great example is the RXP Christmas show at the Blender Theater. The Ting Tings and Airborne Toxic Event are NOT going to work being played next to the likes of Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin and Bon Jovi. Sorry, I know some people may have broad taste, but in general, just not going to happen.