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AMraydio

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I just got a postcard in the mail for an RXP contest where you can choose a prize of 100 CDs or downloads and be put in the running for a cash grand prize (names called out at 7 a.m., noon, and 4 p.m.). So I decided to listen to RXP all weekend. It reminds me of the way NEW used to sound when it was trying to fold new music into the classic rock reciped. I heard Springsteen's Detroit Medley and Queen with I think Coldplay sandwiched in between. I'm not sure, but it sounds more classic rock than new rock/alternative. I listened to Pinfield for a while, and while yes, he is a musical guru, I doubt he is having a hand in picking all the classic rock I heard today. Can I hear some thoughts on the music format from this board?
 
To me, it's a case of 'RXP (as with all the other "stations" preceding on this frequency) having the "format of the month" (first used by the late Rick Sklar in his book "Rocking America") syndrome...the station cannot make up its mind whether it wants to be classic rock, new rock, old rock, or WHATEVER else in between...and it's the listeners that are left SO CONFUSED... (but as for me personally, two words - "Disco 102", baby!! 8)
 
that's what they get for not delivering what was promised;
NYC roots rock, which to me was a base of LATE 70S-EARLY 80S Max's Kansas City/CBGB first wave, NY Dolls,Patti Smith,Blondie, Cherry Vanilla, Ramones, Wayne County, Iggy,Johnny Thunders etc with new current NYC scene makers/bands heavy in the mix, representing the here and now...
radio still plays the old 'we won't budge game', but in the era of ipod and internet radio,the audience is countering with the 'we won't listen game'...so there ya go
 
true...if 'RXP's music was only up to the level of their bus ads - the ads are MORE exciting....
 
Speak for yourselves. I think RXP has become quite exciting to listen to, offering a great eclectic mix featuring lot of great music you can't hear anywhere else in NYC, and jocks who can make you excited about the music. Occasionally there will still be a song that seems out of place, and I think there should be a bit more current music, but I still commend them for going outside of the box. Hopefully the new PD will solidify their direction. Bringing in decent ratings will be a bigger challenge, and I'm not sure if I should get my hopes up, but I will enjoy the station while it lasts.
 
mjb1124 said:
Speak for yourselves. I think RXP has become quite exciting to listen to, offering a great eclectic mix featuring lot of great music you can't hear anywhere else in NYC, and jocks who can make you excited about the music. Occasionally there will still be a song that seems out of place, and I think there should be a bit more current music, but I still commend them for going outside of the box. Hopefully the new PD will solidify their direction. Bringing in decent ratings will be a bigger challenge, and I'm not sure if I should get my hopes up, but I will enjoy the station while it lasts.

Agreed, this station has a long way to go and from the start has seemed to be lacking direction...however at least they are doing something different on a NY radio dial filled with nothing but corporate crap. With the hiring of Matt Pinfield and now PD Leslie Fram with many years experience in alternative radio, the station will obviously take a more modern/alternative direction...this will never be a huge ratings winner but hopefully enough to sustain it....I too will enjoy it while it lasts...
 
Since when does a PD decide the direction of a radio station? That hasn't been the case for 15 years. If you think Leslie is going to come in and all of a sudden lean the station more alternative, you're high. She's going to do whatever corporate tells her to do. She just got her dream job. She's not allowed to have an opinion. Something else I don't understand is why Emmis let the former PD bring in the new morning show, then they let him go, and they bring in Leslie. Don't they realize that this is NYC and Wall Street is listening? I can guarantee you this. Matt Pinfield talking about what type of music the members of R.E.M were into when they recorded "Automatic for the People" WILL NOT TRANSLATE INTO RATINGS!!!
 
As I pointed out the station has been somewhat without direction, the hiring of a PD with a long history in alternative radio is indicative of the station heading in that direction...they need to do something..

As for you...check the attitude at the door and learn to be civil (if thats not asking too much)
 
Indielover said:
mjb1124 said:
Speak for yourselves. I think RXP has become quite exciting to listen to, offering a great eclectic mix featuring lot of great music you can't hear anywhere else in NYC, and jocks who can make you excited about the music. Occasionally there will still be a song that seems out of place, and I think there should be a bit more current music, but I still commend them for going outside of the box. Hopefully the new PD will solidify their direction. Bringing in decent ratings will be a bigger challenge, and I'm not sure if I should get my hopes up, but I will enjoy the station while it lasts.

Agreed, this station has a long way to go and from the start has seemed to be lacking direction...however at least they are doing something different on a NY radio dial filled with nothing but corporate crap. With the hiring of Matt Pinfield and now PD Leslie Fram with many years experience in alternative radio, the station will obviously take a more modern/alternative direction...this will never be a huge ratings winner but hopefully enough to sustain it....I too will enjoy it while it lasts...

It seems that 'experience in alt radio ' is to one's detriment. This format is as focused-nihilistic as ever.

You want 'something different' ? Tune to WFMU. RXP is the epitome of terminal boredom, as Johnny once said.

I will enjoy my sizable LP/CD collection-which is what of Matt's should be dragged into the studio.

Funny, this station doesn't even have a hand in the Sonic Youth show on July 4th. And that's in the city.
 
"It seems that 'experience in alt radio ' is to one's detriment. This format is as focused-nihilistic as ever.

You want 'something different' ? Tune to WFMU. RXP is the epitome of terminal boredom, as Johnny once said.

I will enjoy my sizable LP/CD collection-which is what of Matt's should be dragged into the studio.

Funny, this station doesn't even have a hand in the Sonic Youth show on July 4th. And that's in the city"


All of which is why I continue to listen to Indie 103.1 online...I hold out hope (against hope) for RXP, but enjoy listening in the car, and sometimes at home.
 
At the very least they could be like the knight at 90.5 at the jersey shore where they have some x modern rock at the jersey shore peeps that work there but for awesome indie/alt music you just don't get much better then indie 1031 ;D be it ipod internet radio i will choose indie anyday but i will give props to the new sound 100.3 in la if rxp went somewhat in that direction it would be fine but kill some of the dinasour rock i believe Q104 has that covered but good luck to rxp and as i always say in life

Time will tell

P.S. In reference to the one guy saying since when does a pd choose the direction of a station well when grock 106.3 at the jersey shore got a new pd over a year ago the station defenitely sounded alot better so i believe it depends on the company and the station as to how much freedom they have.
 
100.3 the sound is a good station, a very focused well programmed AAA...it would behoove emmis to take RXP in this direction...something needs to be done, the station is doomed if they stay unfocused as they have been..

Over the last 4 years listening to indie, there have been many NY bands interviewed...one thing that always comes up is the lack of a good station in NY...this could be that station, but I can't help but think at this point emmis will blow this opportunity...time will tell
 
Question.......why would the NY Rock Experience hire someone from Atlanta???....Do they actually have anyone from NY there? it's a sham....I am from NY/NJ...if you tell me people from NY on a station about NY are making this "experience" quite frankly, I want people I know.....and doesn't NY also include NJ? I still need my Jersey stations...this station NEVER feels like home no matter how many tries I give it.....sorry........
 
Didn't emmis learn anything from killing kzla the country station to that disaster movin in la??? Give the new yorkers a alt station they love
 
hotpatrick2004 said:
At the very least they could be like the knight at 90.5 at the jersey shore where they have some x modern rock at the jersey shore peeps that work there but for awesome indie/alt music you just don't get much better then indie 1031 ;D be it ipod internet radio i will choose indie anyday but i will give props to the new sound 100.3 in la if rxp went somewhat in that direction it would be fine but kill some of the dinasour rock i believe Q104 has that covered but good luck to rxp and as i always say in life

Time will tell

P.S. In reference to the one guy saying since when does a pd choose the direction of a station well when grock 106.3 at the jersey shore got a new pd over a year ago the station defenitely sounded alot better so i believe it depends on the company and the station as to how much freedom they have.

Now my head hurts.
 
Indielover said:
100.3 the sound is a good station, a very focused well programmed AAA...it would behoove emmis to take RXP in this direction...something needs to be done, the station is doomed if they stay unfocused as they have been..

Over the last 4 years listening to indie, there have been many NY bands interviewed...one thing that always comes up is the lack of a good station in NY...this could be that station, but I can't help but think at this point emmis will blow this opportunity...time will tell

AAA should be relegated to the 90s. This was not to be the task of RXP.
 
Indielover said:
You want 'something different' ? Tune to WFMU.

WFMU is my favorite station in the world, but it's a completely different kettle of fish from what RXP is attempting. There's nothing freeform about RXP, just more tinkering with the concept of a playlist.
 
icybluelake said:
Indielover said:
You want 'something different' ? Tune to WFMU.

WFMU is my favorite station in the world, but it's a completely different kettle of fish from what RXP is attempting. There's nothing freeform about RXP, just more tinkering with the concept of a playlist.

I'm not expecting RXP to be WFMU, but I am expecting RXP to have the balls to to do more than it does right now. This station is not anything different-really-than any other commercial station. The music is safe, and boring.
 
they're still trying to sell 'concepts' to an audience that isn't buying 'concepts' anymore; we don't want the idea of a radio station; an actual radio station will do, thank you very much, but the corporate bozos will never understand,thereby never allow such a thing
 
WRXP is frustrating. I was listening late last night, and while they played some really excellent songs (i.e. Cake's "Frank Sinatra"), they also played predictable, tired tracks by the likes of Led Zeppelin and Boston.

I understand what RXP is trying to do, but there are two problems with the format: First, it's too eclectic for its own good. As I've said before, if you like Arcade Fire, you'll be happy to hear it but then you will get frustrated 10 minutes later when they play Nickelback. Second, despite the fact that RXP has the broadest playlist of any commercial NYC FM, there is still too much overlap between it and other stations. The '70s and '80s arena rock can also be heard constantly on K-Rock and Q 104.3, and the "Mom-approved Rock" like Nickelback, Daughtry and 3 Doors Down can be heard on any AC variant (take your pick).

The best approach would be for RXP to go in a real Alternative direction, similar to Indie and FNX - a good mix of classic and modern without all the post-grunge hacks. They can even achieve some success with the current format if they play far fewer songs that can be heard everywhere else.

I'm still trying to get my head around how you sell such a diverse format to advertisers. Pretty much every hip-hop station I know has a very limited focus - you seldom ever hear anything from the '90s, and forget about any '80s tracks. But RXP takes almost everything that can be remotely classified as rock and brings it all together - AAA, Singer/Songwriter, Arena Rock, Alternative, etc. It's hard to imagine people listening for more than a few minutes at a time, but given the horrendous competition in the market for rock, perhaps some listeners are willing to keep the station on.
 
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