According to All Access, Ryan Seacrest and his on-air co-host Ellen K were told to "put a sock in it" and stop talking so much and to start playing more music in the morning, despite being in #1 in some demos. Seacrest didn't let things go smoothly for the station and ranted about it on Kevin and Bean. He even said "I like doing this but would rather do this for someone who likes me". Is this a sign of the apocalypse for KIIS FM and Clear Channel?
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RYAN SEACREST DRAMA OVER AT KIIS FM
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musicfan101
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Wait? They allowed Ryan on KROQ? Yes, something will go down soon if CC is telling Ryan to do this.radiojomo said:
Why would he be on Kevin and Bean?
Look, CC told him to talk less (ie: shorter breaks). Who hasn't been told that in this business?
Ryan needs to grow a pair and be a pro.
There's a whole lot of no talent frosted haired pretty boys waiting to sit in that chair.
He's replaceable. Bam!, I said it.
He needs to spend more time counting his dough and less time being a wuss
and appreciate what he has.
Look, CC told him to talk less (ie: shorter breaks). Who hasn't been told that in this business?
Ryan needs to grow a pair and be a pro.
There's a whole lot of no talent frosted haired pretty boys waiting to sit in that chair.
He's replaceable. Bam!, I said it.
He needs to spend more time counting his dough and less time being a wuss
and appreciate what he has.
Westwood One could still syndicate his midday/afternoon show
Except that Premier Radio has a long-term contract with him. Westwood One doesn't have the finances to syndicate his show nor the ability to take on such long term debt. Since Seacrest is locked into so many Clear Channel markets, highly unlikely that they'd carry him from another syndicator. Plus, how many of the competing stations would want him? And why? It would only give Clear Channel the chance to homogenize another automated show and another syndicator the chance to do same. Not good for "live" radio.
No biggie.
When you have $45-million in your pocket plus other projects worth millions ... talking to Kevin & Bean is no big deal and Clear Channel knows it.
What are they gonna do .... bring back Rick Dees on KIIS-FM?
Maybe Seacrest is tired of doing mornings. Socks and all.
Except that Premier Radio has a long-term contract with him. Westwood One doesn't have the finances to syndicate his show nor the ability to take on such long term debt. Since Seacrest is locked into so many Clear Channel markets, highly unlikely that they'd carry him from another syndicator. Plus, how many of the competing stations would want him? And why? It would only give Clear Channel the chance to homogenize another automated show and another syndicator the chance to do same. Not good for "live" radio.
No biggie.
When you have $45-million in your pocket plus other projects worth millions ... talking to Kevin & Bean is no big deal and Clear Channel knows it.
What are they gonna do .... bring back Rick Dees on KIIS-FM?
Maybe Seacrest is tired of doing mornings. Socks and all.
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dittohead1
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There are jocks all over America hoping he'll just say "screw it" and take his ball and go home. This would allow good jocks to go back to work. Then again, it might force CC suits to think a little and I don't want them to hurt their little, pointy heads.
Again, that doesn't mean that jocks all over will go back to work. Clear Channel / Premier has a full and growing stable of "plug in" jocks with "Premium Choice" that could replace Seacrest tomorrow on all of their stations in whatever shift.
As long as the economy is in the shape it's in and radio (especially CC,) in the shape it's in, CC can automate whatever daypart it wants at the flip of a switch.
As long as the economy is in the shape it's in and radio (especially CC,) in the shape it's in, CC can automate whatever daypart it wants at the flip of a switch.
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AnimatronicAbeLincoln
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They pay the guy I-don't-know-how-many-millions-of-dollars a year, and then they tell him to shut up.
Why not get some kid to give time and temp? Save the money.
Sounds like some clear channel middle-management middle-aged frat guy just felt like throwing his weight around that day.
Why not get some kid to give time and temp? Save the money.
Sounds like some clear channel middle-management middle-aged frat guy just felt like throwing his weight around that day.
Obviously, CC doesn't want to give up on Seacrest. They NEED Seacrest. He's still getting high numbers in LA mornings and I'm sure he's not doing so bad on middays/afternoons on other markets. As much as some people might not want to believe this, Seacrest is a popular personalty. A household name. He's on E! News and American Idol. Don't you think a familiar name like that would bring in listeners?
There would be a big hole to fill if Seacrest ever left KIIS mornings. Rick Dees is almost 60, the target audience for KIIS is 18-34, wouldn't you think KIIS would pick someone closer to the age demo? Who else is there? KIIS obviously would want a big name to fill in mornings, even if they decided to make it music intensive.
There would be a big hole to fill if Seacrest ever left KIIS mornings. Rick Dees is almost 60, the target audience for KIIS is 18-34, wouldn't you think KIIS would pick someone closer to the age demo? Who else is there? KIIS obviously would want a big name to fill in mornings, even if they decided to make it music intensive.
AnimatronicAbeLincoln said:
It's their station. And they direct the talent, just like movie companies hire directors to guide the actors and actresses they hire. Good movies have good directors. Bad movies may have good talent, but without good diriection they don't work.
Yeah, why not do a movie with Angelina Jolie or Cameron Diaz and have no director at all! How grand.
It sounds like a company that gets how to use high profile talent effectively.
Do you think Seacrest is not directed when he is on Idol or his other TV shows?
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AnimatronicAbeLincoln
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'k. Don't pay someone all that money to talk then tell him to shut up.
Why not do a movie with Angelina Jolie or Cameron Diaz and then make sure they spend as little time on screen as possible.
Sounds like a company that has A.D.D. They want the guy so bad then they hire him and then tell him to shut up.
Of course he's directed when he's on idol and other tv shows. If he were paid $$$$ millions of dollars and then told to stay off the screen then that would be a colossal waste of money on the producers' part. Let's not do that. In this economy, let's be shrewd with our resources and not pay people tons of money then tell them to "put a sock in it." I'm not a Seacrest fan but this is the kind of thinking that has gotten radio to where it is today.
AnimatronicAbeLincoln said:
Actually, they told him to be briefer, because radio is not TV. TV shows like Idol have to fill full hours and half hours, with windows for commercials. Radio, on the other hand, plays more music when a jock talks less... it's dynamic. Since, on a music station, a morning show is a complement to the music, then playing too little of it destroys the ratio that listeners like.
I've worked with some very good morning shows, and the one thing that I've had to work on in every case is brevity.
No, the point is that the movie is not a monologue for a single artist. However, overacting, the movie equivalent of over talking, is what a director is there to prevent.
No, they told him to leave time for the music. To be briefer. To get to the point faster. That is what a program director is supposed to do, no matter how famous the talent is.
The problem is that you mistakenly think he was told not to talk. He was, in fact, told to not be lazy in his talking... to move to the point faster, and not to waste time.
TheBigA said:
Or... Ryan is great at publicity. It's not the first time K&B actually interviews talent from other stations. He interviewed Renám and Piolín, both of whom, at the time, were beating K&B quite amply.
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AnimatronicAbeLincoln
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Don't hire expensive, superstar talent if the music is the star.
Wow the audacity of those people who pay Ryan to do mornings. They actually had the thought that since they pay him lots of money to work for them that they could tell him what to do. After all, Ryan's a big time genius now and no one should be able to tell him to do anything. Ha! You see it all the time with actors and athletes, so why should Ryan be different? It's called getting too big for your britches. Radio talent are always being told what to do and this guy seems to forget where he came from. The funny thing is, without his “other” gig, Ryan might still be doing afternoons at KYSR, if he could have survived all the changes there. He could still be hosting bad reality shows on Spike TV and asking Merv to help him get another audition. Oh sorry, Merv's not with us anymore, no help there. But really, I know a lot of people with just one job, or no job at all who would be happy to be told what to do. This guy knows that his job is safe; CC has way too much invested in him. So he'll just do what he wants anyway. At least they came to him, most of those lucky enough to have one job in radio would be summoned to their bosses office for an adjustment.
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kenglish
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I'm thinking "this is a stunt".
(Don't people always say "nobody plays enough music on radio any more"?) ;D
(Don't people always say "nobody plays enough music on radio any more"?) ;D
I absolutely agree and the names that come to mind are Howard Stern & Mark & Brian, both shows pushing music completely out. Granted, Kevin & Bean and the former Jaimie & Danny shows had music, but it was just filler for the real show that being the personalities and their bits. CMIIW but morning shows are the show first and the music (if there is music) last.AnimatronicAbeLincoln said:
If all I wanted was the music I'd listen to XM and/or Sirius. :-*
P.S.: Danny's show on WYSP (available via WinAmp) has no music.
ajc_trw said:I absolutely agree and the names that come to mind are Howard Stern & Mark & Brian, both shows pushing music completely out. Granted, Kevin & Bean and the former Jaimie & Danny shows had music, but it was just filler for the real show that being the personalities and their bits. CMIIW but morning shows are the show first and the music (if there is music) last.AnimatronicAbeLincoln said:
If all I wanted was the music I'd listen to XM and/or Sirius. :-*
P.S.: Danny's show on WYSP (available via WinAmp) has no music.
I think these are very different types of stations. KIIS is a mainstream pop station, not a rock station. Pop is more music oriented.
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