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What do you think, Top 40 station a Rhythmic lean:

Lil Wayne- Lollipop
Timbaland- The Way I Are
Metro Station- Shake It
Justin Timberlake- Summer Love
Chris Brown-Forever
-COMMERCIALS
Avril Lavigne- Girlfriend
Mariah Carey- Bye Bye
Britney Spears- Piece Of Me
Katy Perry- I Kissed A Girl
Fergie- Fergalicious
-COMMERICALS
Rihanna- Don't Stop The Music
Kanye West- Homecoming
Pretty Ricky- Your Body

2 Pistols / T-Pain- She Got It It
Sara Barellis- Love Song
Sean Kingston- Beautiful Girls
Britney Spears- Break The Ice
New Kids On The Block- Summertime
-COMMERCIALS
Ray J/ Yung Berg- Sexy Can I
Lady Gaga/ Colby O' Donis/ Akon- Just Dance
All American Rejects- Dirty Little Secret
Pitbull/ Lil' Jon- The Anthem
Chris Brown- With You
-COMMERCIALS
OneRepublic-Stop And Stare
Danity Kane- Damaged
Kat Deluna- Whine Up
Miley Cyrus- See You Again
 
Hot 1047 is better than 997. the Sugarhill Gang into Village People into Tom Petty is JACK-FM, not CHR. :D

2 p.m.
Jordin Sparks - Tattoo
Daniel Powter - Bad Day
Usher - Love in This Club
-Stopset-
Natasha Bedingfield - Pocketful of Sunshine
Buckcherry - Sorry
-Stopset-
Daughtry - Home
Cardigans - Lovefool
-Stopset-
Miley Cyrus - See You Again
Pink - Who Knew
2Pac - California Love

8 p.m.
2Pac - Changes
Colbie Caillat - Realize
3 Doors Down - It's Not My Time
-Stopset-
Sara Bareilles - Love Song
Green Day - Boulevard Of Broken Dreams
-Stopset-
Lil Wayne - Lollipop
Leona Lewis - Bleeding Love
-Stopset-
Colby O'Donis - What You Got
Plain White T's - Hey There Delilah
Alicia Keys - No One
 
dr. radio,

i just realized what my beef with the programming is. not that it's necessarily "bad", and i'll excuse the fact that it's flying through different demo's left and right - which alienates listeners... but maybe you're working too hard to break records? why? Sure, it's cool being the station that first spins the record, and all the bragging rights that come along with it. However, that's the risk of Top40 record breakers... playing flops. Do you want to be known to your audience as the station they turn to for all their favorite music, the hits? Or the station that plays some hits, but some flops? I'm in no way trying to attack you or speak negatively about your programming.... just something I thought you'd appreciate considering.
 
Warning: This isn't to bash your station or anyone else's station.

Too bad you have to leave format to get those ratings. I don't care what your view on 70's and 80's music are. 70's and 80's music have absolutely no place on a CHR in 2008. Even full Hot AC's are tossing the 80's out of their active libraries. And because music in the 90's was so fragmented, not everything that charted in the 90's fits on a CHR today (only hip hop/rap from the 90's connects to the core these days). But, quite a bit of 90's hits, like Third Eye Blind and No Doubt, do fit on Hot AC's today.

Its also kind of stupid to blow out weekends to play f-ing Kansas, 'Til Tuesday, Village People, and Dexy's Midnight Runners and call it "old school" when it doesn't describe that kind music. It's not the CHR core that is requesting those songs at the noon hour and when you do those "old school" weekends. You just handed all your core listeners to 'KLS, and who says they will come back? I view your station as offering three different formats in the day: talk in the morning, 80's crap at noon, and CHR in the afternoon/night. No consistency!!!

I have said this before: There is a reason that every CHR in the country sounds very much the same and that's the format. The currents are going to be pretty much the same, minus a song here and there that might test very well in one particular area and not so well in another. I would just LOVE to see what "research" tells you that playing Pork and Beans by Weezer and Handlebars by Flobots (just the same as you did with Fake It by Seether in power rotation last year and Falling Down by Atreyu a few months ago) is serving the strongest desires of the CHR audience in Marshall, Minnesota. You already have a sister station home to the market that should be all over those kind of records, classic/active rock hybrid KARZ, KSDJ in Brookings, along with KRRO in SF. Let them establish it before you add it.

If you're the only local CHR option (Hot 104.7 doesn't count since they could care less) in Marshall, why NOT sound like every other CHR in the country? I mean, who's gonna know? Or care? The audience wants what the audience wants, and if you're the only one giving it to them, guess what? You win. Only so-called "elitist" jerks care about "cookie cutter", not the CHR core. Guess what? As I said "cookie cutter" wins or else CHRs would sound different everywhere else. National charts are there for a reason, to measure hits. So play them!!!

-Yours truly, Prophet (My friends call me NexGen). I happen to be more in touch with the CHR format from programming a few CHR stations in the past, despite programming a country station right now.

P.S. I love "Open House Party" on your station, at least you did something right and carry that on your station. Coldplay "Violet Hill", David Cook "Time Of My Life", Secondhand Serenade "Fall For You", and Spill Canvas "All Over You" and many more are stiffs. That is just the music, don't even get me started ranting on long imaging [anything more than :15 is a promo] and a few weak sounding jocks.
 
Amen, Truthsayer.

To add to this...If KKCK is, in fact, the station in question...WOW. There are so many things to critique...I wish there was enough time...

Being the only game in town is nice, but if someone came in and put on a real CHR into that market, watch how quickly the rats would exit the sinking ship. Be afraid, Doc.

I second the question about research..."if it has hit potential, then we play it." What on Earth do you use to determine hit potential? Whatever it is, it's broken.

A quick trip to your website shows 49 CURRENTS on your playlist!!!!! WTF? An average for a CHR is what, 22-25? Wow.

Cliche's exist because they're usually true...same goes for "cookie-cutter" formats. You can do things that other stations around the country are doing and still have a local flavor that endears your to your audience. But being different for the sake of being different...not the best play.

Put it this way...wouldn't it be nicer to be the station that people love, rather than the station that people write down because it's their only alternative?

And PS...a 34 year old woman was born in 1974, yes. But she's not going to remember the music that was playing when she born. At WORST, there should never be anything on the air that was older than 1988, when she was 14, and could actually remember the music she loved then.

And PPS...a 34 year old woman will be 35 in less than a year. Why not pick things that cater to your women in their late 20s so you can endear them for longer? 34 year old women can still relate to music from the mid-90's, but 26 year old women can't relate to things from the late 70's. That's IF you do this stuff at all, which I don't agree you should.
 
Got your PM.

- 38 currents is still WAY too many.
- 3 Doors Down, Kid Rock, Secondhand Serenade with over 58 spins a piece? Why?
- Too much new music...too much unfamiliarity.
- 65 spins a week for powers? What's your OES?
- If you're not playing a record enough for people to notice, why play them at all?
- When I'm driving to lunch on a weekday, I don't expect to hear the same novelty records I'd hear in a college town club on a weekend.
- If I'm a 34 year old woman, how often do I frequent college town clubs?
- If I hear these records all the time on your radio station, it loses its novelty or "oh wow" factor. It totally defeats the purpose of why you argue they're important.
 
The Truthsayer said:
If you're the only local CHR option (Hot 104.7 doesn't count since they could care less) in Marshall, why NOT sound like every other CHR in the country? I mean, who's gonna know? Or care? The audience wants what the audience wants, and if you're the only one giving it to them, guess what? You win. Only so-called "elitist" jerks care about "cookie cutter", not the CHR core. Guess what? As I said "cookie cutter" wins or else CHRs would sound different everywhere else. National charts are there for a reason, to measure hits. So play them!!!

If Hot 104.7 doesn't care...and you work for the company that owns them, but program the country station...then I have to ask...why do YOU care???

You also say the audience wants what the audience wants. Since you are programming Country in Sioux Falls, how do you know what the CHR audience in Marshall wants?

Don't get me wrong, I think the station could use some guidance, but come on...do you feel better about yourself by ripping on these guys?
 
doctor_radio said:
Roger That said:
- 3 Doors Down, Kid Rock, Secondhand Serenade with over 58 spins a piece? Why?
We were early on those, and they're proven hits.

You have GOT to be kidding me. Now you're just embarrassing yourself. Proven to whom? By what? In terms of airplay, only 3 Doors is even in the Top 20, and that hardly makes it a hit.

doctor_radio said:
Roger That said:
- Too much new music...too much unfamiliarity.
Which is why you surround them with more familiar records.

A good concept, if executed properly. But if you have THAT many currents, there's no way you can schedule any of this in a way that would make sense to me. Add to that your "throwbacks," and you prove my point further.

doctor_radio said:
Roger That said:
- 65 spins a week for powers? What's your OES?
Is 120 spins better? ;)

I should've guessed that this would be your answer. Wink all you want, but there's actually a reasoning behind my question. CHECK YOUR OES...or in your case, LEARN WHAT OES IS. You're never going to get penalized for playing peoples' favorite music too much, and OES will help you determine the most accurate way to reach the audience you think you know so much about. You show your ignorance by answering a legitimate question with a sarcastic question of your own, based on an assumption that I blindly think every CHR has to play their powers 120 times a week. Far from it. I actually opened the floor for you to prove to us why that's a good idea (and for some, it is...Y100/Miami comes to mind as a station that plays their powers far below the average, at 75-ish times a week). But you'd rather rebutt with cheeky ignorance. I'm sure the real answer is "because my PD thinks that's how many times we should play them." Weak.

Of course, with such misguided powers, you're right...it's probably better to play them less.

doctor_radio said:
Roger That said:
- If I hear these records all the time on your radio station, it loses its novelty or "oh wow" factor. It totally defeats the purpose of why you argue they're important.
haha they aren't the only ones we play. They remember Was (not Was), Devo, Toad the Wet Sprocket, LL Cool J, George Clinton, Def Leppard, Whitney Houston, Divinyls, Backstreet Boys, and others too. Well they request it and they were hits back in the day. And we mix in a few hot currents with the back in the day songs when we do Old School weekends since they help maintain the younger listener as they might be too young to remember the older stuff. What we are is a little 3 letter word called FUN: a) it's fun putting together b) the listeners have fun requesting and hearing the songs and c) us jocks have a blast so it sounds good. The 90's and 2000's were fragmented but they're good memories for the listener, even if it's a trainwreck on paper.

It's obvious that however misguided, you're not interested in actually learning more about how to make your radio station better. You may see this as an attack, but there are those of us who are legitimately interested in helping people get better. But it seems, based on the number of PM's I've gotten from others who have tried to fight this battle with you before, that you're uninterested. You'd rather, like most radio people, use this forum as a way to stroke your own ego. "Hey...here are my hours...tell me how awesome I am for having VARIETY!!" Ugh. Variety is a whole other topic for a later date.

I worked in a small market for a number of years, but never really got how close-minded that mentality was until I made it out. You take phones at night, and so because the same prize pig calls and requests Seether every 10 minutes, that must mean it's representative of your audience and it needs to be a power, right? I get that you don't have many resources, but you do have a brain and the ability to use the advice and trends of other, bigger markets that DO have those resources...those are tools you should be using!!

My advice? Find someone in a bigger market that works for your company and become friends with them. Let them teach you how to be better at what you do. Open your mind. Unless you want to stay in Marshall for the rest of your career (and some may), you need to stop holding on to these ideals that are just bad programming.
 
The Chumps at the "CHR" in Marshall are clueless

They know what OES is from my PM conversations.

Your reasons sound selfish. It's not about your staff... it's about the listeners. And if you're playing songs that your CORE DEMO has no clue what they are, how is that beneficial to the listener? Listeners can't have F-U-N when they don't know the S-O-N-G.

I would love to see the "research" that says 18-34 females like hearing songs from 20-30 years ago that their parents listened to. No need for research there, that's COMMON SENSE! Unless it's a drinking game where they take a show each year they are OFF.

If that's your opinion of CHR, then why does the current CHR format work for Z100, Hot 104.7, 102.7 KIIS-FM, KDWB, WNCI, 106.1 Kiss FM, 933FLZ, Q102, Hot 99.5, Y100... shall I continue? "All types" of good music is called that lame pathethic wannabe format called "JACK-FM." You can't connect with your listeners when they don't know the song. If you believe anyone in your demo is requesting Edgar Winter Group or 'Til Tuesday "old school" lunch/weekend or not, it's people at Hot having fun -- at YOUR expense and airwaves because you're stupid enough to play it.

Now for another long winded rant of intelligence:

1) You're embarrassing yourself by responding to those that flame you and/or your radio station. There are ALWAYS going to be people that do not like a particular radio station, no matter WHAT market it is in. I guarantee that there are large numbers of people in New York that hate everything Z100 does, I guarantee there are large numbers of people in Los Angeles that hate everything KIIS does, and (to use an example a little bit closer to home) I guarantee there are large numbers of people in Sioux Falls that hate everything KKLS (Hot 104.7) does. The point is, YOU AS THE AN EMPLOYEE HAVE TO TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS and that's people on a message board running their mouths. Are they your advertisers? No. Are they diary respondents? Most likely not.

2) I've heard your radio station and have seen your playlists and logs. It needs work and definition. The imaging is weak and the staff is weaker. Take a page from the Clear Channel Less is More book and revamp your imaging down to a couple simple rules: A) NOTHING is on the air longer than :10 in length in a music sweep. If it's longer than :10, it's a promo. Period. B) Everything should be in and out, quickly and effectively, with preference to pieces laying over song intros.

The jocks at your station, on the other hand, need to remember that CHR (we'll touch on THAT particular point in just a second) is NOT TARGETED AT TEENS! Yes, it's wonderful to have them listening to your radio station, I'll give you that much. As they grow up, they will hopefully contine that P1 listening style into their 20s and 30s. BUT, your target demo is between the ages of 18 and 34 (in other words, ranging from college student to average age of parents of two or three kids)... ALL on-air content should be directed to them and there should NEVER be a caller put on the air under the age of 16 or 17. Adults do not want to hear kids doing shoutouts on your show, they want to hear maturity, they want to hear those with a little bit of life experience to their credit.

Excluding Hot 104.7 which doesn't TARGET Marshall, YOU HAVE NO DIRECT CHR COMPETITION. Until Marshall/Brookings gets another CHR to directly compete with you (and don't even try to bring up KKLS), you have a captive audience. If they want to hear the hits (albeit interspersed between a bunch of stiffs or Cheap Trick, Whitesnake, and whatever else you play on the "old school" weekends every month), they don't have any other local option.

3) C H R = CONTEMPORARY HIT RADIO

Dictionary.com defines "CONTEMPORARY" as:

con·tem·po·rar·y adj.

3. Current; modern

The last time I checked, the following titles did not even REMOTELY qualify as "current" or "modern:"
P.S. - I got that log from a co-worker of your station.

SUGAR RAY- Someday
THE EAGLES- Life In The Fast Lane
ROB BASE- Joy & Pain
SHERYL CROW- Strong Enough
TECHNOTRONIC- Pump Up the Jam
NSYNC- Tearin' Up My Heart
MR. MISTER- Broken Wings
TAG TEAM- Whoomp
TONI BRAXTON- Un-Break My Heart
FALCO- Rock Me Amadeus
PAT BENATAR- Heartbreaker
SUBLIME- Santeria
PEBBLES- Girlfriend

All of those records played in ONE hour today. Granted, it was 12-1pm, your "old school" lunch where you brag they are all requests, but my point is the same.

To quote you, Tony, "CHR, in my opinion, is meant to be more than playing seven powers 85 times a week and 10 mediums 40 times a week."

Your opinion is wrong. Sorry. See my definition of CHR above. Someone else said it well.... this is an outstanding example of why you are still in Podunkville and why the owner is a fool for still KEEPING you as a music director and your idiot PD in a market THAT large.

Speaking about leaving format, the modern rock/alternative show you have on Sunday nights, called The Shag, is better suited for you sister rock station. Sure Sunday night is dead, but shows like Dawson McAllister Live build cume and TSL without alienating the CHR core. Same can be said about Backtrax USA on Saturday mornings. There's already a Hot AC in the area with that show. Replace the Rick Dees with Ryan Seacrest on Sunday morning. He has a name for himself, Rick is a nobody these days.

4) .. I have some things to say about your playlist (currents, this time).

* 3 Doors Down is your #1 spinning record? Jeez, react to KMXC much, which is a HOT AC? That is way too unfamiliar of a record to be #1 on a CHR already.

* Secondhand Serenade? You're kidding, right? (Probably a money record.)

* The Spill Canvas is a stiff.

* (I've made my point about Flobots- Handlebars and Weezer- Pork and Beans already).

* Kid Rock, Kate Voegele, David Cook, and Matchbox Twenty- How Far We've Come? I'd expect those out of Hot AC stations like 93.7 and 97.3, but not 99.7!

* Shwayze, 2 Pistols, and Saving Jane are stiffs. Lose 'em. (Probably greenbacks again.)

* Coldplay? Rehab? Duffy? Paramore- That's What You Get? Disgusting. (More $$$$ records)

Why did you drop Buckcherry- Sorry? Where's Flo Rida-Low which should be spun more? Miley Cyrus- See You Again, which isn't burned yet according to callout? Those are ALL better records than the ones I mentioned that you are playing! I know you play the Miley and Flo Rida still but they need to still be spun more and kept in current rotation, not recurrent. (Correct answer is: they aren't getting any $$ for them.)

I'd love to get my hands on 'KCK. People might actually be able to stand listening to it then, once I blow out every single jock except the only talents on those station, Kannon and John Garabedian, and replace them with talent.

Anxiously awaiting your long winded response about how great you think you are Mr. Thin Skin,

-Prophet a.k.a. NexGen who happens to be more in touch with CHR than you
 
Decent advice Truthsayer although I disagree with some of your opinions on new songs. We're getting back some good early research on 3 Doors Down, although unlike the station you're commenting on it's in sub-power here and not one of our top spinners yet. Also, I'm in the south and have no hot a/c competition so Kid Rock makes sense. In fact I'm getting a lot positive reaction early on. Otherwise, your coments in general are pretty much on target.
 
Re: The Chumps at the "CHR" in Marshall are clueless

The Truthsayer said:
They know what OES is from my PM conversations.

Your reasons sound selfish. It's not about your staff... it's about the listeners. And if you're playing songs that your CORE DEMO has no clue what they are, how is that beneficial to the listener? Listeners can't have F-U-N when they don't know the S-O-N-G.

I would love to see the "research" that says 18-34 females like hearing songs from 20-30 years ago that their parents listened to. No need for research there, that's COMMON SENSE! Unless it's a drinking game where they take a show each year they are OFF.

If that's your opinion of CHR, then why does the current CHR format work for Z100, Hot 104.7, 102.7 KIIS-FM, KDWB, WNCI, 106.1 Kiss FM, 933FLZ, Q102, Hot 99.5, Y100... shall I continue? "All types" of good music is called that lame pathethic wannabe format called "JACK-FM." You can't connect with your listeners when they don't know the song. If you believe anyone in your demo is requesting Edgar Winter Group or 'Til Tuesday "old school" lunch/weekend or not, it's people at Hot having fun -- at YOUR expense and airwaves because you're stupid enough to play it.

Now for another long winded rant of intelligence:

1) You're embarrassing yourself by responding to those that flame you and/or your radio station. There are ALWAYS going to be people that do not like a particular radio station, no matter WHAT market it is in. I guarantee that there are large numbers of people in New York that hate everything Z100 does, I guarantee there are large numbers of people in Los Angeles that hate everything KIIS does, and (to use an example a little bit closer to home) I guarantee there are large numbers of people in Sioux Falls that hate everything KKLS (Hot 104.7) does. The point is, YOU AS THE AN EMPLOYEE HAVE TO TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS and that's people on a message board running their mouths. Are they your advertisers? No. Are they diary respondents? Most likely not.

2) I've heard your radio station and have seen your playlists and logs. It needs work and definition. The imaging is weak and the staff is weaker. Take a page from the Clear Channel Less is More book and revamp your imaging down to a couple simple rules: A) NOTHING is on the air longer than :10 in length in a music sweep. If it's longer than :10, it's a promo. Period. B) Everything should be in and out, quickly and effectively, with preference to pieces laying over song intros.

The jocks at your station, on the other hand, need to remember that CHR (we'll touch on THAT particular point in just a second) is NOT TARGETED AT TEENS! Yes, it's wonderful to have them listening to your radio station, I'll give you that much. As they grow up, they will hopefully contine that P1 listening style into their 20s and 30s. BUT, your target demo is between the ages of 18 and 34 (in other words, ranging from college student to average age of parents of two or three kids)... ALL on-air content should be directed to them and there should NEVER be a caller put on the air under the age of 16 or 17. Adults do not want to hear kids doing shoutouts on your show, they want to hear maturity, they want to hear those with a little bit of life experience to their credit.

Excluding Hot 104.7 which doesn't TARGET Marshall, YOU HAVE NO DIRECT CHR COMPETITION. Until Marshall/Brookings gets another CHR to directly compete with you (and don't even try to bring up KKLS), you have a captive audience. If they want to hear the hits (albeit interspersed between a bunch of stiffs or Cheap Trick, Whitesnake, and whatever else you play on the "old school" weekends every month), they don't have any other local option.

3) C H R = CONTEMPORARY HIT RADIO

Dictionary.com defines "CONTEMPORARY" as:

con·tem·po·rar·y adj.

3. Current; modern

The last time I checked, the following titles did not even REMOTELY qualify as "current" or "modern:"
P.S. - I got that log from a co-worker of your station.

SUGAR RAY- Someday
THE EAGLES- Life In The Fast Lane
ROB BASE- Joy & Pain
SHERYL CROW- Strong Enough
TECHNOTRONIC- Pump Up the Jam
NSYNC- Tearin' Up My Heart
MR. MISTER- Broken Wings
TAG TEAM- Whoomp
TONI BRAXTON- Un-Break My Heart
FALCO- Rock Me Amadeus
PAT BENATAR- Heartbreaker
SUBLIME- Santeria
PEBBLES- Girlfriend

All of those records played in ONE hour today. Granted, it was 12-1pm, your "old school" lunch where you brag they are all requests, but my point is the same.

To quote you, Tony, "CHR, in my opinion, is meant to be more than playing seven powers 85 times a week and 10 mediums 40 times a week."

Your opinion is wrong. Sorry. See my definition of CHR above. Someone else said it well.... this is an outstanding example of why you are still in Podunkville and why the owner is a fool for still KEEPING you as a music director and your idiot PD in a market THAT large.

Speaking about leaving format, the modern rock/alternative show you have on Sunday nights, called The Shag, is better suited for you sister rock station. Sure Sunday night is dead, but shows like Dawson McAllister Live build cume and TSL without alienating the CHR core. Same can be said about Backtrax USA on Saturday mornings. There's already a Hot AC in the area with that show. Replace the Rick Dees with Ryan Seacrest on Sunday morning. He has a name for himself, Rick is a nobody these days.

4) .. I have some things to say about your playlist (currents, this time).

* 3 Doors Down is your #1 spinning record? Jeez, react to KMXC much, which is a HOT AC? That is way too unfamiliar of a record to be #1 on a CHR already.

* Secondhand Serenade? You're kidding, right? (Probably a money record.)

* The Spill Canvas is a stiff.

* (I've made my point about Flobots- Handlebars and Weezer- Pork and Beans already).

* Kid Rock, Kate Voegele, David Cook, and Matchbox Twenty- How Far We've Come? I'd expect those out of Hot AC stations like 93.7 and 97.3, but not 99.7!

* Shwayze, 2 Pistols, and Saving Jane are stiffs. Lose 'em. (Probably greenbacks again.)

* Coldplay? Rehab? Duffy? Paramore- That's What You Get? Disgusting. (More $$$$ records)

Why did you drop Buckcherry- Sorry? Where's Flo Rida-Low which should be spun more? Miley Cyrus- See You Again, which isn't burned yet according to callout? Those are ALL better records than the ones I mentioned that you are playing! I know you play the Miley and Flo Rida still but they need to still be spun more and kept in current rotation, not recurrent. (Correct answer is: they aren't getting any $$ for them.)

I'd love to get my hands on 'KCK. People might actually be able to stand listening to it then, once I blow out every single jock except the only talents on those station, Kannon and John Garabedian, and replace them with talent.

Anxiously awaiting your long winded response about how great you think you are Mr. Thin Skin,

-Prophet a.k.a. NexGen who happens to be more in touch with CHR than you


Dude...what's your problem???? You make some valid points, but you come across as a GIANT bag of ******...especially this line: "Anxiously awaiting your long winded response about how great you think you are." Glass houses..stones...kettle...black...you know where I am going, right??

Knowledge and talent are important in this business...but so are attitude, demeanor and maturity. You bring Hot into the conversation and as an employee of Cumulus, you are now speaking and posting as such. I am sure that Cumulus Media is proud to have you programming their country station in Sioux Falls, SD. You should send your GM, Jan or the Dickey's a link to some of your posts...
 
Re: The Chumps at the "CHR" in Marshall are clueless

The Truthsayer said:
* Secondhand Serenade? You're kidding, right? (Probably a money record.)

* The Spill Canvas is a stiff.

I've made this point before. The Spill Canvas are from Sioux Falls. NOT playing their song is a shame. And Hot is playing it anyway.

And why are you dissing the Secondhand Serenade song? According to Hot's website, it was #8 on the Top 9 at 9. http://www.hot1047.com/content/blogcategory/40/95/

Plus you've bashed for having 3 Doors Down in high rotation, when according to the Hot website, it's #6 there.

Sure, KKCK's playlist is out there. But are the advertisers buying spots? If it's still being sold, it's still working.
 
Still WAY too new to be in power already. TSC is new too, just cracked the Top 40. Both of them will flop. Big market stations don't have to be conservative. Brand new songs get requests, but it does not mean to increase spins simply because of that.

Hot does research, they know what they are doing. I apologize about saying 3DD is a stiff.

Knowing the history of the station, 'KCK plays songs because:
a) their music director who posts on here likes it without thinking about callout, research, and the CHR core
b) it's a money record and/or
c) they are bringing the artist to town for some "show"

They brought The Spill Canvas to town for a concert a few months ago and they are still paying the costs by spinning that song heavily and too early.

Doc, who cares what satellite radio is doing?
 
The Truthsayer said:
Still WAY too new to be in power already. TSC is new too, just cracked the Top 40. Both of them will flop. Big market stations don't have to be conservative. Brand new songs get requests, but it does not mean to increase spins simply because of that.

Hot does research, they know what they are doing. I apologize about saying 3DD is a stiff.

Knowing the history of the station, 'KCK plays songs because:
a) their music director who posts on here likes it without thinking about callout, research, and the CHR core
b) it's a money record and/or
c) they are bringing the artist to town for some "show"

Once again, you bring Hot into your post and as an employee of Cumulus Media, your words are now a reflection of the company. Would the owners on KKCK be happy to know that someone from Cumulus, in a PUBLIC forum, is accusing them of illeagal/payola activity without proof?? How do you think YOUR company feels about that??
 
In regards to The Spill Canvas, while they are not yet a household name,"All Over You" is holding steady at #41on the building chart on Mediabase. We had them in town last week and they pulled a decent sized crowd for an acoustic set of 6 songs. We got the show sponsored so we made some money on it and nearly 600 people came by to see it.

Wanna see? check out the video http://www.q92radio.com/content.php?page=q92video

BTW, which station are you programming Truthsayer? Thought so.
 
"All Summer Long" actually has been testing well in Hot AC leaning and southern stations, so I would not slam it yet. Secondhand Seranade have been doing well in rock leaning stations and those that do well with teen rock records. Even larger markets 1061 Kiss FM (Dallas) and ZHT (Salt Lake) have the record in their top. They won't be national hits, but for doctor_radio's small market audience, these are great records.

I would however agree you shouldn't jump on having a power too early, or at the very least not until you are for sure it's a hit. Doing so will have you ending up with too much unfamiliarity in a row in your sample hours and will bomb your TSL. People also do not want to turn on their hit music station and hear new song after unfamiliar song after new song. They want to hear the current hits as well as the future ones.
 
I've always taken the position that it's not neccessarily the worst thing in the world to play records such as Fall For You, All Summer Long, etc. - even in larger markets. The fact of the matter is, there will be a portion of your audience that likes songs that may not be the most popular. As long as they are not overly annoying, or negative, AND surrounded by familiar records (Strong recurrents or powers, preferably), it's not the worst thing you can do. I wouldn't (and in my situations, don't) do it a lot, or as frequently as others in this thread do, but it's not gonna kill you and will probably raise your cume. You will pick up extra listeners by playing some of the lesser hits - because there are people that will inevitably like them, particularly if you are exclusive on them to your market. As long as they aren't really polarizing records, they probably won't hurt your share or TSL that much with your regular listeners. Top 40 is about short time spent listening, and quick turnover, but I think the lesser hits are part of it that as well - you can't just play the same 20 records all day, or you will have a ton of cume and no share. Finding the balance is a challenge, but one that is attainable if you know which records to play, and which records not to. There isn't neccessarily a fine line between the two, but one thing I have learned is that you have to throw your personal opinions out the window, and let YOUR listener decide. After all, they're the one that matters - not us.

Rivers
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