Sample Playlist

[mattkoons]

I'm surprised with how many hits the Various Hits can have (Jack FM, whatever) that ppl don't make sample playlists. Here's my shot .... my station's name is MattFM. Here we go.

BECK Black Tambourine
ANITA WARD Ring My Bell
BELL BIV DEVOE Poison
COLDPLAY The Scientist
AKON Bananza
DAKOTA MOON Looking for a Place to Land

BREAK

ROB BASE Joy and Pain
LOU BEGA Mambo #5
QUEEN Another One Bites the Dust
THE FOUNDATIONS Build Me Up Buttercup
PEACHES & HERB Shake Your Groove Thing
THE OFFSPRING Really Fly for a White Guy

BREAK

U2 Sometimes You Can't Make It Own Your Own
BLONDIE The Tide is High
ALANIS MORISSETTE Ironic
CHERRY POPPIN DADDIES Zoot Suit Riot
NINE INCH NAILS Only

BREAK

IKE & TINA TURNER Proud Mary
BETTER THAN EZRA A Lifetime
AUGUSTANA Stars and Bouvelards
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN Born in the USA
FINGER ELEVEN One Thing

 

[OldiesCat]

Playlist

All I can say is: ugh.


> I'm surprised with how many hits the Various Hits can have
> (Jack FM, whatever) that ppl don't make sample playlists.
> Here's my shot .... my station's name is MattFM. Here we go.
>
> BECK Black Tambourine
> ANITA WARD Ring My Bell
> BELL BIV DEVOE Poison
> COLDPLAY The Scientist
> AKON Bananza
> DAKOTA MOON Looking for a Place to Land
>
> BREAK
>
> ROB BASE Joy and Pain
> LOU BEGA Mambo #5
> QUEEN Another One Bites the Dust
> THE FOUNDATIONS Build Me Up Buttercup
> PEACHES & HERB Shake Your Groove Thing
> THE OFFSPRING Really Fly for a White Guy
>
> BREAK
>
> U2 Sometimes You Can't Make It Own Your Own
> BLONDIE The Tide is High
> ALANIS MORISSETTE Ironic
> CHERRY POPPIN DADDIES Zoot Suit Riot
> NINE INCH NAILS Only
>
> BREAK
>
> IKE & TINA TURNER Proud Mary
> BETTER THAN EZRA A Lifetime
> AUGUSTANA Stars and Bouvelards
> BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN Born in the USA
> FINGER ELEVEN One Thing
>

 

[Steppenwolf]

Re: Playlist

Hold on to your seatbelt...I agree with OldiesCat. This playlist would drive away listeners.

> All I can say is: ugh.

> > I'm surprised with how many hits the Various Hits can have
> > (Jack FM, whatever) that ppl don't make sample playlists.
> > Here's my shot .... my station's name is MattFM. Here we
> go.
> >
> > BECK Black Tambourine
> > ANITA WARD Ring My Bell
> > BELL BIV DEVOE Poison
> > COLDPLAY The Scientist
> > AKON Bananza
> > DAKOTA MOON Looking for a Place to Land
> >
> > BREAK
> >
> > ROB BASE Joy and Pain
> > LOU BEGA Mambo #5
> > QUEEN Another One Bites the Dust
> > THE FOUNDATIONS Build Me Up Buttercup
> > PEACHES & HERB Shake Your Groove Thing
> > THE OFFSPRING Really Fly for a White Guy
> >
> > BREAK
> >
> > U2 Sometimes You Can't Make It Own Your Own
> > BLONDIE The Tide is High
> > ALANIS MORISSETTE Ironic
> > CHERRY POPPIN DADDIES Zoot Suit Riot
> > NINE INCH NAILS Only
> >
> > BREAK
> >
> > IKE & TINA TURNER Proud Mary
> > BETTER THAN EZRA A Lifetime
> > AUGUSTANA Stars and Bouvelards
> > BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN Born in the USA
> > FINGER ELEVEN One Thing

 

[radiolover78]

Re: Playlist

> Hold on to your seatbelt...I agree with OldiesCat. This
> playlist would drive away listeners.

I agree with both of you. A playlist full of one's favorite songs. Thats YOUR iPOD. Even Jack's playlist has some research involved.

>
> > All I can say is: ugh.

>

 

[musicloverII]

Re: Playlist

Looks like someone's IPOD, isn't that Jack? Cloning what they think people want? People have variety on their IPOD, it's THERE variety, not what someone else is providing THEM. What makes your IPOD better than someone else's? What makes this guys list any worse than a Jack? It could be a Jack, it's all over the place, it has stiffs in it and leans white. Some people might like that list, most probably wouldn't. Just like Jack. Look how much impact it's having in MAJOR MARKETS like Chicago and NYC. Excuse yourself away, it's a small town hodgepodge format that fills a void in markets that are over rock weighted. It's not going to work in the market that matter. L.A. will fall by summer. Eventually, the trendiest city in the world will tire of the insanity and move on.

Here's Variety and it's ridiculous. But it could be Jack. Anything that's all over the place with hits and a few Lifetime Lilith Faire tracks thrown in is Jack. Small town radio stations have been programmed like this for years, now it has a branded name that's all.

The Wallflowers - One Headlight
Hung Up - Madonna
Bon Jovi - You Give Love A Bad Name
4 Non Blondes - What's Up
KC & The Sunshine Band - Get Down Tonight
Savage Garden I Want You
Ashlee Simpson - Pieces of Me
Club Nouveau Lean On Me
Garbage - Stupid Girl
Nicki French - Total Eclipse Of The Heart
Erasure - Chains Of Love
Natasha Bedingfield These Words
Nu Shooz - I Can't Wait
The O'Jays - For The Love Of Money
Gin Blossoms Hey Jealousy
Def Leppard - Love Bites
Avril Lavigne My Happy Ending
Black Eyed Peas - Hey Mama
REM - The One I Love
Frankie Valli - Oh What A Night
Rob Thomas - This Is How A Heart Breaks
The Smiths - How Soon Is Now
Kylie Minogue Love At First Sight
Green Day Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)
Rednex - Cotton Eyed Joe

Now that really sucks, it's all over the place, they're all hits, they're all on someone's IPOD, does it mean it makes MASSES happy. Probably not. YUCK! Chances are though, someone would like it, that doesn't mean it WORKS for radio. But it's variety and Jack is variety the question is when you give people what you think they want, is it what THEY want, the way they want it, when they want it? Probably not. Variety is in the ear of the listener and in Chicago and NYC, very few people are listening.


> > Hold on to your seatbelt...I agree with OldiesCat. This
> > playlist would drive away listeners.
>
> I agree with both of you. A playlist full of one's favorite
> songs. Thats YOUR iPOD. Even Jack's playlist has some
> research involved.
>
> >
> > > All I can say is: ugh.
>
> >
>

 

[szorn]

Re: Playlist

> Looks like someone's IPOD, isn't that Jack? Cloning what
> they think people want? People have variety on their IPOD,
> it's THERE variety, not what someone else is providing THEM.
> What makes your IPOD better than someone else's? What makes
> this guys list any worse than a Jack? It could be a Jack,
> it's all over the place, it has stiffs in it and leans
> white. Some people might like that list, most probably
> wouldn't. Just like Jack. Look how much impact it's having
> in MAJOR MARKETS like Chicago and NYC. Excuse yourself away,
> it's a small town hodgepodge format that fills a void in
> markets that are over rock weighted. It's not going to work
> in the market that matter. L.A. will fall by summer.
> Eventually, the trendiest city in the world will tire of the
> insanity and move on.
>
> Here's Variety and it's ridiculous. But it could be Jack.
> Anything that's all over the place with hits and a few
> Lifetime Lilith Faire tracks thrown in is Jack. Small town
> radio stations have been programmed like this for years, now
> it has a branded name that's all.
>
> The Wallflowers - One Headlight
> Hung Up - Madonna
> Bon Jovi - You Give Love A Bad Name
> 4 Non Blondes - What's Up
> KC & The Sunshine Band - Get Down Tonight
> Savage Garden I Want You
> Ashlee Simpson - Pieces of Me
> Club Nouveau Lean On Me
> Garbage - Stupid Girl
> Nicki French - Total Eclipse Of The Heart
> Erasure - Chains Of Love
> Natasha Bedingfield These Words
> Nu Shooz - I Can't Wait
> The O'Jays - For The Love Of Money
> Gin Blossoms Hey Jealousy
> Def Leppard - Love Bites
> Avril Lavigne My Happy Ending
> Black Eyed Peas - Hey Mama
> REM - The One I Love
> Frankie Valli - Oh What A Night
> Rob Thomas - This Is How A Heart Breaks
> The Smiths - How Soon Is Now
> Kylie Minogue Love At First Sight
> Green Day Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)
> Rednex - Cotton Eyed Joe
>
> Now that really sucks, it's all over the place, they're all
> hits, they're all on someone's IPOD, does it mean it makes
> MASSES happy. Probably not. YUCK! Chances are though,
> someone would like it, that doesn't mean it WORKS for radio.
> But it's variety and Jack is variety the question is when
> you give people what you think they want, is it what THEY
> want, the way they want it, when they want it? Probably not.
> Variety is in the ear of the listener and in Chicago and
> NYC, very few people are listening.

Well said Musiclover II,
The way I use an iPod is, yeah, to have a variety of genres and music on it, but I click on a particular genre I'm in the MOOD for at any particular time. It is only once in a while that I'm in the mood for a true genre shuffle. I don't think Jack knows how to predict listening moods. That's why it's not working well IMO. I could be wrong.

 

[nocece]

Re: Playlist

> I agree with both of you. A playlist full of one's favorite
> songs. Thats YOUR iPOD. Even Jack's playlist has some
> research involved.

This "Matt" playlist or whatever is better than the Jack stations that exist now. If I was doing a Jack-type station, I'd throw in some indie tracks and stuff, and maybe even (once in a great while) some old big band music or something. (That wouldn't be more than once every 5,000 songs or so.)

 

[mattkoons]

Re: Playlist

> This "Matt" playlist or whatever is better than the Jack
> stations that exist now. If I was doing a Jack-type station,
> I'd throw in some indie tracks and stuff, and maybe even
> (once in a great while) some old big band music or
> something. (That wouldn't be more than once every 5,000
> songs or so.)
>

Finally, someone says something nice and constructive .... Thanks. It is way better than any Jack station. I think that Jack stations need to start diggin' deep like I have been ..... and go from 1960's to today. Now that is talkin about variety

-- Matt

 

[OldiesCat]

Playlist

And you two guys would enjoy that station a lot, but you'd be among the few.

"More variety" doesn't mean play as many songs as possible. It mostly means (this is from radio listeners) "please give me something more than 250 song playlists". Indie tracks, big band- c'mon. This ain't college radio.


>
> Finally, someone says something nice and constructive ....
> Thanks. It is way better than any Jack station. I think
> that Jack stations need to start diggin' deep like I have
> been ..... and go from 1960's to today. Now that is talkin
> about variety
>
> -- Matt
>

 

[Steppenwolf]

Re: Playlist

That's the point I DO accept as far as the VH format goes. There needs to be a wider playlist to present. I just don't think it's logical that a music mix exists that's going to please 25-year olds and 54-year olds at the same time.

> And you two guys would enjoy that station a lot, but you'd
> be among the few.
>
> "More variety" doesn't mean play as many songs as possible.
> It mostly means (this is from radio listeners) "please give
> me something more than 250 song playlists". Indie tracks,
> big band- c'mon. This ain't college radio.

 

[wikhradio]

Re: Playlist

> That's the point I DO accept as far as the VH format goes.
> There needs to be a wider playlist to present. I just don't
> think it's logical that a music mix exists that's going to
> please 25-year olds and 54-year olds at the same time.
>
> > And you two guys would enjoy that station a lot, but you'd
>
> > be among the few.
> >
> > "More variety" doesn't mean play as many songs as
> possible.
> > It mostly means (this is from radio listeners) "please
> give
> > me something more than 250 song playlists". Indie tracks,
>
> > big band- c'mon. This ain't college radio.
>

The bird Jack... ABC's Jack seems to be better than the local counterparts. I have been listening to our new Jack in Wausau here,, and it has been very awesome! I have been enjoying the mix. Basically, I think of it as a harder hot ac, with an emphasis on 80s, and classic rock and the occational oldie mixed in. I have enjoyed the 80s songs that Hot ACs usually don't play though, been a breath of fresh air!

I am 17 btw... and it seems to appeal to what I like. I like variety. Just my 2 cents.<P ID="signature">______________


Moderator, Community Radio board</P>

 

[musicloverII]

Re: Playlist

So now you're defining variety. And you wonder why this format won't last. You can't be everyone's variety because everyone defines it differently. You may be the wrong variety. You defining what kind of variety people want is too funny. Is that the party line you're reciting. "Tell people what kind of variety they want so they'll think that way".


> And you two guys would enjoy that station a lot, but you'd
> be among the few.
>
> "More variety" doesn't mean play as many songs as possible.
> It mostly means (this is from radio listeners) "please give
> me something more than 250 song playlists". Indie tracks,
> big band- c'mon. This ain't college radio.
>
>
> >
> > Finally, someone says something nice and constructive ....
>
> > Thanks. It is way better than any Jack station. I think
> > that Jack stations need to start diggin' deep like I have
> > been ..... and go from 1960's to today. Now that is
> talkin
> > about variety
> >
> > -- Matt
> >
>

 

[OldiesCat]

Playlist

Not at all. If you're as experienced as you claim, you know as well as I listeners will come into a music test, screaming for "more variety" on the radio. Yet, when you get the results of the music test, their votes ALWAYS go for a very similar, somewhat limited set of major hits. We all test "the lunars" over and over again and listeners always cast their votes against those songs while they keep on saying "Unchained Melody".

That all being said- there is no single radio station that can possibly please everybody. If you want this type or that type, you usually have a station to choose. Variety Hits is no more than a response from a segment of radio listeners who are saying, "you know, I like several different kinds of music- it would be cool to have one station play a much wider variety of songs I know".
The VH format is that- it's never claimed to be "the" station for everybody.
Just the sizable segment that's shouting "I'm tired of the same old/same old over and over again".

And, by the way, stick that "party line" jazz somwehere. You have no idea what you're talking about when you make such cynical accusations.

> So now you're defining variety. And you wonder why this
> format won't last. You can't be everyone's variety because
> everyone defines it differently. You may be the wrong
> variety. You defining what kind of variety people want is
> too funny. Is that the party line you're reciting. "Tell
> people what kind of variety they want so they'll think that
> way".

 

[OldiesCat]

Playlist

But no format can do that. Any 25-54 radio station knows a major slice of their listening will come from somewhere inside that wide cell. For oldies, it's 45-54. Most Variety Hits stations are aiming at 30-44s.

Anybody who thinks they can equally satisfy all their listeners from 25 all the way up to 54 AND serve them consistently is dreaming.

There's this stupid fallacy out there being sold by the anti-Jack crowd that purports Jack is trying to be everything to everybody and that could not be further from the truth. They ARE, however, a response to frustrated radio listeners who've become tired of narrowly-targeted stations (era-wise). That's not to say they believe they'll replace the oldies or 80s or classic rock or AC station- V.H. is simply a new alternative to a group of radio listeners saying "I like more than just 60's or 80's or (whatever). It would be great to have a station playing a little from all my favorite (2-3) station".

Again- V.H. was not designed to please EVERYBODY 25-54. Their niche is focused on (approximately) 38 yr olds with a target spread around 30-45.


> That's the point I DO accept as far as the VH format goes.
> There needs to be a wider playlist to present. I just don't
> think it's logical that a music mix exists that's going to
> please 25-year olds and 54-year olds at the same time.
>
> > And you two guys would enjoy that station a lot, but you'd
>
> > be among the few.
> >
> > "More variety" doesn't mean play as many songs as
> possible.
> > It mostly means (this is from radio listeners) "please
> give
> > me something more than 250 song playlists". Indie tracks,
>
> > big band- c'mon. This ain't college radio.
>

 

[musicloverII]

Re: Playlist

Dear "corporate lackey to the rescue on message board boy", Do they give you a bonus for this drooling. You seem to have a desire to defend a loser. You're probably a Cubs fan too.

You have time and time again stated this is the variety people have been clamoring for. You have time and time again said that Jack is great, Jack is good and Jack is in your neighborhood. I'm here to tell you you're dreaming. It is nothing more than small town radio. It's as if someone has said "play whatever you can find because we don't get service on too much". This format is done everyday in small cities around the Country, it's called BAD PROGRAMMING. It's everything corporate radio execs laughed about when internet radio started and now... THEY'RE TOUTING A FORMAT THAT IS EVERYTHING THEY WERE STEADFAST AGAINST. It's laughable, they're laughable, the entire concept is laughable.

Chicago = FAILURE, NYC = FAILURE. L.A. = In love today, divorced next year. In my eyes, those markets matter far more than a few little ones and that's all I'm interested in. I don't care about Nashville, Little Rock, Chatanooga, etc, they're meaningless to me. I'm interested in markets that matter. Markets I've worked in, Markets I've been number one in NYC, Chicago and L.A.

The format is ridiculous and you're ridiculous for constantly telling people this is the variety "people" want. I hate to tell you but many 18-34 year olds have developed new habits, radio ain't one of them. Jack's target demo only has a few years left before they're out of that demo. Radio offers very little other than bong smoking folk music that's "critically acclaimed", repulsive hip hop, fried out classic rock or "put us on and pay no attention" formats that don't interest many. It's a proven fact, radio is in trouble and Jack ain't the answer. Radio is just old technology. It can't be what people want BUT there's many things out there that let people do, see, hear and watch what they want, when they want. Radio loses no matter what.



> Not at all. If you're as experienced as you claim, you know
> as well as I listeners will come into a music test,
> screaming for "more variety" on the radio. Yet, when you
> get the results of the music test, their votes ALWAYS go for
> a very similar, somewhat limited set of major hits. We all
> test "the lunars" over and over again and listeners always
> cast their votes against those songs while they keep on
> saying "Unchained Melody".
>
> That all being said- there is no single radio station that
> can possibly please everybody. If you want this type or
> that type, you usually have a station to choose. Variety
> Hits is no more than a response from a segment of radio
> listeners who are saying, "you know, I like several
> different kinds of music- it would be cool to have one
> station play a much wider variety of songs I know".
> The VH format is that- it's never claimed to be "the"
> station for everybody.
> Just the sizable segment that's shouting "I'm tired of the
> same old/same old over and over again".
>
> And, by the way, stick that "party line" jazz somwehere.
> You have no idea what you're talking about when you make
> such cynical accusations.
>
> > So now you're defining variety. And you wonder why this
> > format won't last. You can't be everyone's variety because
>
> > everyone defines it differently. You may be the wrong
> > variety. You defining what kind of variety people want is
> > too funny. Is that the party line you're reciting. "Tell
> > people what kind of variety they want so they'll think
> that
> > way".
>

 

[neutral_observer]

Re: Playlist

> Finally, someone says something nice and constructive ....


There's nothing at all constructive there...you just found someone to agree with you.

However, you should know who that someone is -- "nocece" is better known as "Bandit," a longtime radio message board poster from northern Kentucky with an even longer record of mental challenges. He's spent almost all of his life in some contact with "the system" and, following many incidents and "scenes," has a long list of places he's forbidden to go. His hobbies include lengthy internet diatribes against his former employers (his typical tenure is only a few days) and the places that refuse him entry. In some places, he is considered a strong annoyance; in some places, he is considered dangerous.

He has never been employed in radio, and there is no such thing as a successful radio station that he has ever liked.

And he likes your list.




> Thanks. It is way better than any Jack station.


No, it's not. Not a single one. "Jack" is hard work and should not be attempted by amateurs. I'm sorry.

 

[radiolover78]

Re: Playlist

> Dear "corporate lackey to the rescue on message board boy",
> Do they give you a bonus for this drooling. You seem to have
> a desire to defend a loser. You're probably a Cubs fan too.

Another immature attack. Can we ever have a mature, solid debate without the unnecessary remarks?
>

It is
> nothing more than small town radio.

Stop it with the "small town radio" junk. Its working in "big town radio".

> the entire concept is laughable.

This concept is creative and different. Many many people are liking it.
>
> Chicago = FAILURE, NYC = FAILURE. L.A. = In love today,
> divorced next year. In my eyes, those markets matter far
> more than a few little ones and that's all I'm interested
> in. I don't care about Nashville, Little Rock, Chatanooga,
> etc, they're meaningless to me. I'm interested in markets
> that matter. Markets I've worked in, Markets I've been
> number one in NYC, Chicago and L.A.

Indianapolis, Nashville, etc. are NOT SMALL MARKETS. You failed to mention Portland, Seattle, Philadelphia, Dallas, and some others. Not every market is Los Angeles, New York City, or Chicago, but the ones that are SLIGHTLY smaller than the big 3 are still BIG markets!
>
> The format is ridiculous and you're ridiculous for
> constantly telling people this is the variety "people" want.

Opinion, opinion, opinion! Many people don't think that this format is ridiculus. Apparently this is the variety people want.

> I hate to tell you but many 18-34 year olds have developed
> new habits, radio ain't one of them. Jack's target demo only
> has a few years left before they're out of that demo. Radio
> offers very little other than bong smoking folk music that's
> "critically acclaimed", repulsive hip hop, fried out classic
> rock or "put us on and pay no attention" formats that don't
> interest many. It's a proven fact, radio is in trouble and
> Jack ain't the answer. Radio is just old technology. It
> can't be what people want BUT there's many things out there
> that let people do, see, hear and watch what they want, when
> they want. Radio loses no matter what.

You're complaining about how radio just plays the same crap like burnt out classic rock. Jack offers something a little different and spicier, but people like you still rip it apart. Give it a chance! Nothing makes people like you happy.

You are also acting like radio is completely dead. Its not.

In general, Jack is suceeding in most markets. That statement about market sizes was crazy. You act like Nashville, Dallas, or Indianapolis for example are small towns in the middle of Kansas. Doesn't make since as to why you "wouldn't care about markets other than LA, NYC, and the Windy City."

Ugh.
>
>
>
> > Not at all. If you're as experienced as you claim, you
> know
> > as well as I listeners will come into a music test,
> > screaming for "more variety" on the radio. Yet, when you
> > get the results of the music test, their votes ALWAYS go
> for
> > a very similar, somewhat limited set of major hits. We
> all
> > test "the lunars" over and over again and listeners always
>
> > cast their votes against those songs while they keep on
> > saying "Unchained Melody".
> >
> > That all being said- there is no single radio station that
>
> > can possibly please everybody. If you want this type or
> > that type, you usually have a station to choose. Variety
> > Hits is no more than a response from a segment of radio
> > listeners who are saying, "you know, I like several
> > different kinds of music- it would be cool to have one
> > station play a much wider variety of songs I know".
> > The VH format is that- it's never claimed to be "the"
> > station for everybody.
> > Just the sizable segment that's shouting "I'm tired of the
>
> > same old/same old over and over again".
> >
> > And, by the way, stick that "party line" jazz somwehere.
> > You have no idea what you're talking about when you make
> > such cynical accusations.
> >
> > > So now you're defining variety. And you wonder why this
> > > format won't last. You can't be everyone's variety
> because
> >
> > > everyone defines it differently. You may be the wrong
> > > variety. You defining what kind of variety people want
> is
> > > too funny. Is that the party line you're reciting. "Tell
>
> > > people what kind of variety they want so they'll think
> > that
> > > way".
> >
>

 

[Oldbones]

Re: Playlist

> There's this stupid fallacy out there being sold by the
> anti-Jack crowd that purports Jack is trying to be
> everything to everybody and that could not be further from
> the truth. They ARE, however, a response to frustrated
> radio listeners who've become tired of narrowly-targeted
> stations (era-wise). That's not to say they believe they'll
> replace the oldies or 80s or classic rock or AC station-
> V.H. is simply a new alternative to a group of radio
> listeners saying "I like more than just 60's or 80's or
> (whatever). It would be great to have a station playing a
> little from all my favorite (2-3) station".

Other than current-based formats like CHR or altrock, how narrow era-wise are stations? Most classic rock libraries span from the late 60s thru the late 80s..20 years +/-, ACs generally play stuff from the late 70s to the present. If you'd said narrow genres, yeah I'd agree with you.

 

[OldiesCat]

please dry up

As my teenage daughter says, "what-ever".

There IS no point trying to have a civil discussion with you involved. You're all noise at this point.



> Dear "corporate lackey to the rescue on message board boy",
> Do they give you a bonus for this drooling. You seem to have
> a desire to defend a loser. You're probably a Cubs fan too.
>
> You have time and time again stated this is the variety
> people have been clamoring for. You have time and time again
> said that Jack is great, Jack is good and Jack is in your
> neighborhood. I'm here to tell you you're dreaming. It is
> nothing more than small town radio. It's as if someone has
> said "play whatever you can find because we don't get
> service on too much". This format is done everyday in small
> cities around the Country, it's called BAD PROGRAMMING. It's
> everything corporate radio execs laughed about when internet
> radio started and now... THEY'RE TOUTING A FORMAT THAT IS
> EVERYTHING THEY WERE STEADFAST AGAINST. It's laughable,
> they're laughable, the entire concept is laughable.
>
> Chicago = FAILURE, NYC = FAILURE. L.A. = In love today,
> divorced next year. In my eyes, those markets matter far
> more than a few little ones and that's all I'm interested
> in. I don't care about Nashville, Little Rock, Chatanooga,
> etc, they're meaningless to me. I'm interested in markets
> that matter. Markets I've worked in, Markets I've been
> number one in NYC, Chicago and L.A.
>
> The format is ridiculous and you're ridiculous for
> constantly telling people this is the variety "people" want.
> I hate to tell you but many 18-34 year olds have developed
> new habits, radio ain't one of them. Jack's target demo only
> has a few years left before they're out of that demo. Radio
> offers very little other than bong smoking folk music that's
> "critically acclaimed", repulsive hip hop, fried out classic
> rock or "put us on and pay no attention" formats that don't
> interest many. It's a proven fact, radio is in trouble and
> Jack ain't the answer. Radio is just old technology. It
> can't be what people want BUT there's many things out there
> that let people do, see, hear and watch what they want, when
> they want. Radio loses no matter what.
>
>
>
> > Not at all. If you're as experienced as you claim, you
> know
> > as well as I listeners will come into a music test,
> > screaming for "more variety" on the radio. Yet, when you
> > get the results of the music test, their votes ALWAYS go
> for
> > a very similar, somewhat limited set of major hits. We
> all
> > test "the lunars" over and over again and listeners always
>
> > cast their votes against those songs while they keep on
> > saying "Unchained Melody".
> >
> > That all being said- there is no single radio station that
>
> > can possibly please everybody. If you want this type or
> > that type, you usually have a station to choose. Variety
> > Hits is no more than a response from a segment of radio
> > listeners who are saying, "you know, I like several
> > different kinds of music- it would be cool to have one
> > station play a much wider variety of songs I know".
> > The VH format is that- it's never claimed to be "the"
> > station for everybody.
> > Just the sizable segment that's shouting "I'm tired of the
>
> > same old/same old over and over again".
> >
> > And, by the way, stick that "party line" jazz somwehere.
> > You have no idea what you're talking about when you make
> > such cynical accusations.
> >
> > > So now you're defining variety. And you wonder why this
> > > format won't last. You can't be everyone's variety
> because
> >
> > > everyone defines it differently. You may be the wrong
> > > variety. You defining what kind of variety people want
> is
> > > too funny. Is that the party line you're reciting. "Tell
>
> > > people what kind of variety they want so they'll think
> > that
> > > way".
> >
>

 

[OldiesCat]

Playlist

It isn't just the era span but the genres within that era. Many Oldies stations, for instance, play some '70s music but it's the real bubblegum/poppy
J5, Partridge Family, Tony Orlando and Carpenters stuff (which doesn't work).
Within that same era slice, you're much better going with Elton John, Eagles, Bread, America, CSN, Fleetwood Mac, Billy Joel, etc.

A Classic Rock station's '80s songs could include Metallica, Ozzy and AC/DC or
Springsteen/Mellencamp/Seger/Journey/REO.


>
> Other than current-based formats like CHR or altrock, how
> narrow era-wise are stations? Most classic rock libraries
> span from the late 60s thru the late 80s..20 years +/-, ACs
> generally play stuff from the late 70s to the present. If
> you'd said narrow genres, yeah I'd agree with you.
>