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San Fran. vs. Sacramento

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apco25

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As I was driving my rental vehicle for 2 weeks, I was also without access of a satellite radio, which meant welcome back to the world of terrestrial radio.
As I was driving getting an update of what's been happening since the last time I listened roughly 6-8 months ago....I seen noticable improvement especially one market from another and a few stations.
The improvements pretty much all from believe it or not Sacramento. 26th market versus no. 4, it's a disgrace.
Sacramento seems to have every main genre covered , (it's not perfect), but much more then San Fran. The Bay Area seems to be missing this and that or it's not up to par with what the capital city provides.
One of the biggest improvements is the oldies station. For many years KFRC always had a more professional sound then COOL. Cool seem to sound alittle too laid back and their music rotation seemed alittle all over the place. Sometimes too folksy. Another problem the over yuk yuk yuk yuk morning show with comedians that were not funny, and the mornings sounded off base with the oldies.
It's changed for the better. The music sounds tighter, more polished, a bit more upbeat. Even some oh wows! weekends sounding better. Yes one of the reason is the increasing 70's and early 80's and their not afraid to put in Journey and Boston, disco, even though they could use alittle more R&B like New York City's -"I'm Doin Fine Now", Doctor's Orders- Carol Douglass, "You Little trustmaker"- Tymes, but a noticable improvement over KFRC which still has the same old 300 researched playlists, gossip, plateau programming.
Classic rock the The Eagle is one of the better classic rock stations in the country. It's about as good as XM's Top tracks, except it has commercials. They seem to stay in the trend of everything, but it's now time to add "Winds of Change"- Scorpions, Saigon Kick, Damn Yankees, and it shocked me when I heard the Electric Prunes. Let's say just Sacramento 2 Bay Area 0.
Yes the 80's station surprised me, (even though it may not be around much longer,) it still helped add another pre-set to the radio. They lean toward the Living In the Oblivion (CD set) direction, but hey if you move down to 92.1, it wouldn't hurt to throw in a Debbie Gibson hit or two. No 80's in the Bay.
Sac 3 San fran.0.
V101. It's about he same in the Bay Area, They sound good at times and sometimes not as good. They sometimes go too 80's -90's or at times too recent. Not enough 70's.
They have a good Sunday night show. I know both stations are owned by the same. Let's give it a tie.
AC, Y92. Another improvement. They sounded bland, and focused more on their personality then their music, but lately as Star sounds the same as they did in 95', Y92 has picked up the pace.
Bob, has definetly added more variety to the dial, but the signal is bad. (But who knows how longer their going to be around. Which will only degrade the increasing variety of Sacramento radio.
The Zone has 90's and now. I here more Now. Their too safe on their 90's. At times I noticed I have the station on without ever changing the dial, and then at times I can't hold on too it more then 5 or so minutes. They need to be more broad with their 90's if their going to plug themselves 90's and Now.
They sound better then Alice, which listening over their it's amazing the same jocks are on since it started. But they sound worn out, defeated , tired, can't get past that 1.9. I do listen to them the most in the Bay Area as well as KFRC, and it just goes to show why Sacramento has become a better market.
And plus Sac has a CHR, S.F. doesn't. It's not perfect but what Top 40 is today. As long as you have 50 Cents on their, it may get them ratings, but now you know why are school grades are down and we can't win a war. It's not the End's fault, it's the music industries.
Let's put it this way.... I have had time's where I can't fill my pre-set dials in the Bay Area. I had times where I can only find 4 worth setting. Sacramento seems to have more formats, selections, and improvements, over the Bay Area which is the 4th biggest market. Yes , i'm sure it's better for spanish, asian, secondary formats if anyone listens, but otherwise it looks like the Capital City seems to be more aware of the Xm's,Ipods, etc. that's coming then San Fran.
 
Well first off, no one wants to take a big chance in a market like this. Second, no one has a real "vision" for radio anymore. People don't want to fail. If you fail in a market such as this it just may ruin your career.
 
> Well first off, no one wants to take a big chance in a
> market like this. Second, no one has a real "vision" for
> radio anymore. People don't want to fail. If you fail in a
> market such as this it just may ruin your career.
>
yup i agree with you 100%, no one wan'ts to take a chance against kmel and wild, no one wants to take a chance and go top 40<P ID="signature">______________
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I have a question, somewhat related to when you brought this up on the Sacramento board ...

> It's changed for the better. The music sounds tighter, more
> polished, a bit more upbeat. Even some oh wows! weekends
> sounding better. Yes one of the reason is the increasing
> 70's and early 80's and their not afraid to put in Journey
> and Boston, disco, even though they could use alittle more
> R&B like New York City's -"I'm Doin Fine Now", Doctor's
> Orders- Carol Douglass, "You Little trustmaker"- Tymes, but
> a noticable improvement over KFRC which still has the same
> old 300 researched playlists, gossip, plateau programming.

Is there a satellite channel that plays those songs? Because their chart positions don't usually cry out for testing for rotation on your usual oldies station.
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> I have a question, somewhat related to when you brought this
> up on the Sacramento board ...
>
> > It's changed for the better. The music sounds tighter,
> more
> > polished, a bit more upbeat. Even some oh wows! weekends
> > sounding better. Yes one of the reason is the increasing
> > 70's and early 80's and their not afraid to put in Journey
>
> > and Boston, disco, even though they could use alittle more
>
> > R&B like New York City's -"I'm Doin Fine Now", Doctor's
> > Orders- Carol Douglass, "You Little trustmaker"- Tymes,
> but
> > a noticable improvement over KFRC which still has the same
>
> > old 300 researched playlists, gossip, plateau programming.
>
>
> Is there a satellite channel that plays those songs?
> Because their chart positions don't usually cry out for
> testing for rotation on your usual oldies station.
>

Of course there is. 70's on 7, chrome, soul street. Of course your usual oldies stations don't touch what was once hits themselves, because they didn't test well with female Saomoans or German Shepards whatever.... If that's the radio you want to listen to...be my guest, that's why I'm with satellite.
 
> Well first off, no one wants to take a big chance in a
> market like this. Second, no one has a real "vision" for
> radio anymore. People don't want to fail. If you fail in a
> market such as this it just may ruin your career.
>
It's failing already. it's a slow process like anything from it's prime, but let's face it, as listener, you know most people are not happy.
 
> > Well first off, no one wants to take a big chance in a
> > market like this. Second, no one has a real "vision" for
> > radio anymore. People don't want to fail. If you fail in a
>
> > market such as this it just may ruin your career.
> >
> yup i agree with you 100%, no one wan'ts to take a chance
> against kmel and wild, no one wants to take a chance and go
> top 40
>


San Fran. county has lost over 14000 of their population. That's in just in the last year. More and more KOIT, KFRC, K101 listeners etc. are getting out. In the future KMEL and WILD plus KSOL, KBRG , KSJO, etc. will have all the listeners.
 
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