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San Francisco Radio in 2022
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Yep. That's the reason I fear ever having to go to trial before a "jury of my peers." How could they be my peers when I'm likely to be smarter than at least 80 percent of them?
Or Frisco. And "The City" should be capitalized.
I haven't lived in SF for a long time but remember KFOG as being a classical music station. And yes, the sound of an actual foghorn was their trademark.
KFOG was beautiful music, not classical (that would have put them up against KKHI and KDFC).
KFOG switched from beautiful to album rock at noon on September 16, 1982, finishing the 11:00 a.m. hour with Roger Whittaker's "The Last Farewell", airing its usual newscast at noon, and coming out of it with Stray Cats' "Rock This Town".
It became a simulcast of KNBR's sports format on September 6, 2019.
I remember when the Warriors' uniforms had "The City" along with the bridge on them. This was in their Cow Palace years, before they started playing their games in Oakland.
Thanks for the correction.
I've been away from The City much longer than I thought.
And it was managed by Pete Taylor, who went on to set up WJIB in Boston, another Kaiser station.
Yeah, it's changed a lot I'm sure. And not for the better.I've been away from The City much longer than I thought.
Thanks in part to companies such as Facebook (now Meta) and Google, among others, the rich-poor divide has grown so wide that one almost has to be a millionaire to be a tourist for a day. This was a trend LONG before the pandemic and resulting inflationary shock.
Plus, you need to drive an armored car because odds are excellent that it'll get vandalized. Or you could take BART, but you have to watch out because you could be mugged, assaulted, or shot at. And if you're lucky, you won't encounter a street whose sidewalks are lined with tents and piled on filth from the innumerable homeless people living almost everywhere.
And this isn't just news hyperbole, I've head these things directly from people who have been there recently, like, within the past year or so; the last time I was there myself was 2018 or maybe sometime in early 2019. It was getting pretty ugly then, but it wasn't completely insane like it apparently is now.
In other words, stay away from The City if you want to stay safe!
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And yet, somehow, I’ve gone six times a year for the past nine years, never had my car vandalized or broken into, never been assaulted, attacked or even panhandled from, and never encountered needles nor excrement, human or animal on the sidewalks (or for that matter, the grass at Golden Gate Park).
As for needing to be a millionaire to be a tourist for a day, I’m not and I’ve done fine. Food costs the same as whatever comparable food elsewhere costs, I’ve never spent more than $135 a night for a hotel room and have spent as little as $85—-in short, I have no idea what you’re talking about.
And “Frisco” should never be used.
I mean, I wouldn't walk through the Tenderloin at 2:00 a.m., but I wouldn't have done that 50 years ago, either.
Does stuff happen? Sure. Happens everywhere.
Last week a former News Director of the NPR station I work for here in Sacramento (guy was with us long before my time---1979-1998) was shot and killed in a robbery at 12:30 in the afternoon in arguably the nicest neighborhood in town---what the locals call "The Fabulous Forties"---where the Reagans lived when he was Governor.
I got transferred to Folsom in the late 80's from Phoenix and was greatly surprised and disappointed at Sacto. For the capital of CA it was a dumpy little town with a ton of crime and virtually nothing to attract potential residents (not to mention tourists). I'd seen better airports hosting crop dusters. We lived for a bit over one year in the foothills (Cameron Park) and couldn't wait to return to the desert.
I lived in Sacramento from later 1983 to early 2000 after growing up on the SF peninsula. I returned to the Bay Area, but worked in Sac again briefly commuting from SF in 2004 to early 05. I come back from time to time. Sacramento has come a long way since the 80s. I've found to be place with an identity that suffered from low self-esteem. I got sick of the "We can't do that here, we're small" mentality. Yeah, small, lol- Metro population over 1,000,000 in 1980 and over 2,400,000 now.
As Michael Rivers Kramer noted, things have changed a bit in 30+ years.
Cameron Park's population has doubled in that time, from 10,000 to 20,000, with even greater growth in El Dorado Hills (15,000-45,000) and Folsom (29,000-81,000).
Sacramento International Airport is a perennial award winner for customer satisfaction, with 40 gates and 2.7 million passenger boardings per year---ranking ninth among medium-size hubs in the United States, and behind only Los Angeles International, San Francisco International and San Diego International among airports in California.
We have award-winning restaurants ( Sacramento MICHELIN Restaurants ), a thriving arts community ( Broadway Sacramento ) that also extends to Folsom ( Harris Center ) and enormous opportunities for outdoor activities and adventures.
I don't know how anyone could live 25 minutes closer to Lake Tahoe than I do and hate it, Tuna---but that's why you went back to the desert and why I left Phoenix to come home.
Substitute NY for CA and you've nailed the essence of Albany!
I would assume and expect that. Admittedly it has been quite a while.
Both CP and EDH were pretty nice bedroom communities but I can't even imagine how crowded they are now. Neither had the infrastructure/schools/roads to support that kind of growth. Lots of NIMBY's though. Intel is the main reason EDH has grown so fast. I'm guessing the metro area now sprawls up as far as Placerville.
Sacto, when I lived there, was at least half a day's (miserable) drive from any of Northern CA's major attractions. My middle son played hockey (at a little 1930's converted roller rink) so we spent the majority of our weekends driving to games - most being a minimum of half a day's travel (mainly to the Bay Area). Likewise, most of our air travel was either out of Oakland or SFO so many, many hours of driving. That's the main reason I love Phoenix - convenience - and so much more for kids to do (before they grew up of course). Our schools, although not reflected by the media, are far better than those terribly overcrowded classrooms in Placer County (granted, times may have changed that).
BTW, half my teen years were spent in N. CA (Marin County) so I was used to the area before moving there later on. I had half expected to see Sacto as a junior WashDC. Instead I found Jasper Junction.
I have an old high school friend who lives in Rohnert Park and drives to her Lake Tahoe cabin about once a month. She always has a tale of woe to tell every trip it seems. Too many people have definitely ruined CA (and are still working on it in AZ).My biggest disappointment living in CP was that I couldn't listen to KYA.
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When I lived in NYC and Westchester County I tried my best to stay on the Eastern side of the Hudson river. Not sure if I ever got into All-bany.
The infrastructure is there now. EDH is one of the most desirable communities in the area, as is Folsom.I would assume and expect that. Admittedly it has been quite a while.
Both CP and EDH were pretty nice bedroom communities but I can't even imagine how crowded they are now. Neither had the infrastructure/schools/roads to support that kind of growth. Lots of NIMBY's though. Intel is the main reason EDH has grown so fast. I'm guessing the metro area now sprawls up as far as Placerville.
Sacto, when I lived there, was at least half a day's (miserable) drive from any of Northern CA's major attractions. My middle son played hockey (at a little 1930's converted roller rink) so we spent the majority of our weekends driving to games - most being a minimum of half a day's travel (mainly to the Bay Area). Likewise, most of our air travel was either out of Oakland or SFO so many, many hours of driving. That's the main reason I love Phoenix - convenience - and so much more for kids to do (before they grew up of course). Our schools, although not reflected by the media, are far better than those terribly overcrowded classrooms in Placer County (granted, times may have changed that).
BTW, half my teen years were spent in N. CA (Marin County) so I was used to the area before moving there later on. I had half expected to see Sacto as a junior WashDC. Instead I found Jasper Junction.
My biggest disappointment living in CP was that I couldn't listen to KYA.
Roseville is actually the second-largest of the Sacramento suburbs now at 150,000+ (Elk Grove is the biggest at 175,000). The metro has grown well beyond Roseville, with Rocklin now at 72,000 people, and not much undeveloped between there and Auburn. The terrain east of Auburn will prevent significant spread beyond there.
I have no idea how anywhere in the Bay Area was half a day's drive, even from Cameron Park. Barring a crash tying up traffic, driving at the speed limit, I can be in downtown SF in just a shade under two hours from my house in Folsom, Point Reyes National Seashore in 2 hours 15, SFO in about 2 hours 20, Half Moon Bay in 2 and a half, and Menlo Park in 2 hours 45.
Taking 680, I can actually get to San Jose quicker than Menlo Park---2 hours 25---and Carmel in less than 4.
Come to think of it, I've never had it take more than six and a half hours to drive from Folsom to L.A.
Sacramento International has grown to the point that there's no need to use Oakland. And unless you need nonstop across the Pacific or Atlantic, there's really no need to go to SFO, either.
As for KYA---even if the signal could have reached Cameron Park in the late 80s, it would have just been a simulcast of Adult Contemporary KOIT.
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