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With KUFX 98.5 FM simulcast with 102.1 FM in San Francisco. Are there anything worthwhile listen to in San Jose besides 1590 KLIV, 92.3 KSJO, 94.5 KBAY, 95.3 KRTY, and 106.5 KEZR?

Simulcast with San Francisco stations.
99.1 KSQL ->98.9 KSOL, 97.7 KFFG -> 104.5 KFOG, now 98.5 KUFX -> 102.1 KDFC.

Spanish Radio
1290 KAZA, 1370 KZSF, 99.1 KSQL, 100.3 KBRG, and 104.9 KCNL.

Ethnic Radio (Chinese, Portuguese, Vietnamese, Hindi)
1120 KZSJ, 1170 KLOK, 1430 KVVN, 1500 KSJX.
 
45 miles apart and the population size alone for each city you mine as well merge it. Especially with the abundance of signals and the lack of targeted formats... along with the economy, despite the economy in better shape then the rest of the markets in California...merge it.
 
This may stir up a storm, but the SJ "book" has always been a "fiction," primarily created to help the families that controlled the SJ radio properties years ago to sell in their home county. Since it's an embedded market, and roughly a third of the SF "book", the tail wagged the dog to an extent long before SJ's population exceeded SF's. Now that most of radio is owned by big national companies, it probably has outlived its usefulness.
 
travisl5678 said:
It seems like The SJ and SF markets are merging
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They are merged. The Arbitron San Francisco report includes Santa Clara County. In any market where a group of stations will pay for it, Arbitron can create an "embedded" market which is part of the larger market but gets its own report.

Nassau-Suffolk, New York is another example... part of the NY MSA and issued separately, too.

And Sonoma County (Santa Rosa) is market 120 as well as being one county in the SF metro. In the case of Santa Rosa, a totally separate twice a year diary survey is done, as there is not enough of the PPM panel there to create a separate PPM report.
 
SFStatic said:
This may stir up a storm, but the SJ "book" has always been a "fiction," primarily created to help the families that controlled the SJ radio properties years ago to sell in their home county. Since it's an embedded market, and roughly a third of the SF "book", the tail wagged the dog to an extent long before SJ's population exceeded SF's. Now that most of radio is owned by big national companies, it probably has outlived its usefulness.
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"San Jose" is almost exactly 25% of the San Francisco metro population. 12+ SJ 1.53 million, SF 6.15 million (per October, 2010 update). The tail can not wave the dog, as the full SF market is soooooo much bigger.

Embedded or "broken out" books are a reality in any market where the geography is such that there are definable market areas that have a group of stations that uniquely serve them and don't cover the entire metro. New York has many, including Nassau-Suffolk, a sub-market with lots of stations home to it that don't cover much besides Nassau-Suffolk.

Embedded markets and sub-markets (Santa Rosa, for example) exist if there are enough stations willing to pay for the additional subset level sample balancing and the processing and preparation of the report. Orange County existed as an embedded market until the mid-90's, when support declined. Recently, the Hamptons/Riverhead, also a subset of New York and of Nassau-Suffolk, was dropped due to lack of support at current cost levels.

In other cases, stations will subscribe to the full market book, but use county level breakouts to produce sales data in Maximiser or the PPM Analysis Tool.
 
you forgot K-Love on 87.7, 91.9, 99.3, 103.1, 107.3. Nothing worth listen on the radio.

when we listen to the radio, we have to borrow from another market (SF). Same thing with TV station (except channel 11) all of them from SF. SJ will never have it's own station(tv and radio).
 
emprex said:
you forgot K-Love on 87.7, 91.9, 99.3, 103.1, 107.3. Nothing worth listen on the radio.
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It's sneaky how KLove used a low-power station on analogue channel 6 for the 87.7 freq. Klove is also a waste of good sticks.
 
emprex said:
you forgot K-Love on 87.7, 91.9, 99.3, 103.1, 107.3. Nothing worth listen on the radio.
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From mid-Peninsula and up into the hills, you can also get K-Love on 88.3, 88.9, a second one on 91.9 (slight delay between the two), and a few more during the summer months when signals travel further. I have spoken with FCC about 87.7 and had the situation explained to me. After my conversation, I have read that FCC is going to start cracking down on audio-only broadcasts on assigned TV channels.

If K-Love didn't know how to fill out their paperwork so well, there wouldn't be near as many of them. They have major overlapping coverage everywhere. In "the old days," stations used to be taken off the air if they weren't providing service to the community they were licensed to. K-Love only mentions that community during their TOH ID's, and they leave out most of them because of the number of the translators and because they don't even match up to the stations that they say they are rebroadcasting. The only thing they're good for is to tell what kind of signal propagation I can expect when I'm tuning around.

No, I'm not very fond of them.
 
travisl5678 said:
How about Entercom buys KRTY and puts it on 95.7?
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I have suggested to KDFC that they look at South Bay ratings, the number of stations with common formats, and the glut of K-Loves on the air. There's nothing like a business proposition or a FCC license challenge to change the landscape. I'd like to know what they'll do next. I can get their 89.9 signal very clearly on mid-peninsula, but not a peep from 90.3 ... that's ALL Santa Cruz.
 
I think KDFC should definatly buy one of EMFs south bay signals, If EMF has a few K-Love's in the South Bay, why not flip one to Air1?
 
2 Question's

1. Why does K-Love have so many station?? if it was up to them they would have like 10 station to preach about god

2. Why now is the FCC cracking down on audio only station's on Ch. 6/87.7?? ...
 
MarioMania said:
2 Question's

1. Why does K-Love have so many stations?? if it was up to them they would have like 10 station to preach about god
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Because if it was legally possible and financially possible, K-Love would own & operate on ALL of the FM dial. ;)
 
87.7 isn't part of the FM dial. It WAS part of the analog TV dial. The only reason it still exists is because the FCC hasn't decided on a sunset date for analog low power TV stations and translators. In the meantime, these stations are taking up 600 MHZ of band spectrum without producing any video content. That's 3,000 times that of FM for the same result!
 
Please explain the taking up 600 MHZ of band spectrum meaning on 87.7??

I know there really broadcasting on Channel 6...but where does the 600 Mhz come in??
 
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