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Sangean HDT-1X test results and bugs...

radiopilot said:
The testing of the Sangean HDT-1X, thanks to Brian Beezly of FM Tuners for his great work on testing this unit as well as the first HDT-1 unit.

http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/hdt-1x.htm

The bugs for this unit are posted here:

http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/hdt-1x.txt

Radiopilot
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"Sangean HDT-1X HD/AM/FM Radio Component Tuner"

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #3,599 in Electronics

http://www.amazon.com/Sangean-HDT-1X-Radio-Component-Tuner/dp/B000R8KVJ0

Same pathetic sales ranking as the rest of the HD radios - just as Master Theseus indicated, that HD radios are not selling outside of radio-geeks.
 
PocketRadio said:
radiopilot said:
The testing of the Sangean HDT-1X, thanks to Brian Beezly of FM Tuners for his great work on testing this unit as well as the first HDT-1 unit.

http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/hdt-1x.htm

The bugs for this unit are posted here:

http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/hdt-1x.txt

Radiopilot
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Quite a laundry-list of problems for an upgrade to the HDT-1, but what else would one expect of Sangean's shoddy workmanship for a $200+ empty box !
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You would have thought Sangean would have devoted a little more time with the replies from some of it's customers regarding the bugs with the HDT-1 unit, but now it seems the new and upgraded unit has just as many bugs or flaws as the first.

Why bother to send in the old HDT-1 for the HDT-1X?

Why bother buying a new HDT-1X unit?

HD = Highly Defective :p

Radiopilot
 
I will first defend our company. As only the second attempt we are bound to have problems and to think that any product will have no bugs in it I think is a bit dramatic and as a whole I am satisfied with the changes made to the HDT-1X over the HDT-1.

With that said, I will be working closely with Brian as I have in the past to ensure that the changes promised from the factory are implemented. Many of these bugs were supposedly fixed and should have been reflected, and I am terribly sorry that that is not the case.

If there are any other issues with the product I request them to be posted. We are not scared to have constructive criticism, but will not appreciate or tollerate blatant disrespect to our products. We are here and on other boards as an attempt to communicate and improve our products and not here to let someone simply crap on our attempts to do so.
 
MasterTheseus said:
I will first defend our company. As only the second attempt we are bound to have problems and to think that any product will have no bugs in it I think is a bit dramatic and as a whole I am satisfied with the changes made to the HDT-1X over the HDT-1.

With that said, I will be working closely with Brian as I have in the past to ensure that the changes promised from the factory are implemented. Many of these bugs were supposedly fixed and should have been reflected, and I am terribly sorry that that is not the case.

If there are any other issues with the product I request them to be posted. We are not scared to have constructive criticism, but will not appreciate or tollerate blatant disrespect to our products. We are here and on other boards as an attempt to communicate and improve our products and not here to let someone simply crap on our attempts to do so.
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It is a great analog radio, and if HD is in your area, so much the better. My major complaint is I'd like you to make it so in the event of a power failure, it comes back on when power is restored. There are numerous commercial applications for this radio if it would just do that. Unfortunately, turning a power glitch into a service call to push the "power" button is not very practical. I suppose we could use a UPS, but that adds another $50-75 to the equation and also is one more thing to go wrong. Simple is better. Is there a modification that a reasonably competent bench tech could make to keep it powered up? Maybe a hardwire jumper across the switch? If so, I'd really like to talk to you. In fact, I'd be happy to talk with you anytime. My experience with Sangean is you make excellent products.
 
MasterTheseus said:
I will first defend our company. As only the second attempt we are bound to have problems and to think that any product will have no bugs in it I think is a bit dramatic and as a whole I am satisfied with the changes made to the HDT-1X over the HDT-1.

With that said, I will be working closely with Brian as I have in the past to ensure that the changes promised from the factory are implemented. Many of these bugs were supposedly fixed and should have been reflected, and I am terribly sorry that that is not the case.

If there are any other issues with the product I request them to be posted. We are not scared to have constructive criticism, but will not appreciate or tollerate blatant disrespect to our products. We are here and on other boards as an attempt to communicate and improve our products and not here to let someone simply crap on our attempts to do so.
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The critisism for the Sangean HDT-1, -1X is no different than any other device out in the public and worthy of comment by consumers.

If Sony manufactured and distributed unworhty and defective products they too along with BA Receptor and others would get the same constructive or unconstructive feedback just the same.

The fact that the test report for the Sangean HDT-1X is posted on the web makes it viewable by anyone and worthy of comment.

It's not a critisim of the Sangean Company as a whole as they make other excellent products.

Radiopilot
 
MasterTheseus said:
We are here and on other boards as an attempt to communicate and improve our products and not here to let someone simply crap on our attempts to do so.
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:D

If Sangean is making junk, then what do you expect ? I know from your other posts that HD radios are not selling, so it is just a matter of time, until Sangean and other HD radio manufacturers drop out of the race.
 
Let's face it. Even manufactures are in the qusi-experimental stage with "HD" stuff right now. They are experiementing at the transmitter level where crap has to be rebooted and occational glitches occur. Reciever manufactures are trying to work out the bugs. At least Sangean is trying. The BA that's now discontinued from most accounts was a pretty poor excuse for a HD radio really. It's a shame they didn't catch all the bugs on the new release of the HDT-1x, but let's give them a bit to correct it. It's new technology and requires some tweeking to get where they need it to be. Given time and some CONSTRUCTIVE feedback, I belive they'll get the majority of the problems resolved. Honestly the 'problems' are so bad it makes the unit unuseful for its main use, which is to listen to radio, both analog and digital. The flaws are in the frills that they were kind enough to give us in the first place.

Microsoft built how many crappy OS before XP came out? Let's give Sangean a little time to get everything more perfect. They can't fix the limitations inherent with inferior technology that the NAB and the FCC sent our way, but I bet they'll at least hold their end of it up and get the bugs out of the radio in time. Anyone remember the old FM radios that used to drift like hell and weren't worth a damn back in the day? Has anyone considered it might take time to get this new stuff working at least a bit better?
 
OKCRadioGuy said:
Let's face it. Even manufactures are in the qusi-experimental stage with "HD" stuff right now. They are experiementing at the transmitter level where crap has to be rebooted and occational glitches occur. Reciever manufactures are trying to work out the bugs. At least Sangean is trying. The BA that's now discontinued from most accounts was a pretty poor excuse for a HD radio really. It's a shame they didn't catch all the bugs on the new release of the HDT-1x, but let's give them a bit to correct it. It's new technology and requires some tweeking to get where they need it to be. Given time and some CONSTRUCTIVE feedback, I belive they'll get the majority of the problems resolved. Honestly the 'problems' are so bad it makes the unit unuseful for its main use, which is to listen to radio, both analog and digital. The flaws are in the frills that they were kind enough to give us in the first place.

Microsoft built how many crappy OS before XP came out? Let's give Sangean a little time to get everything more perfect. They can't fix the limitations inherent with inferior technology that the NAB and the FCC sent our way, but I bet they'll at least hold their end of it up and get the bugs out of the radio in time. Anyone remember the old FM radios that used to drift like hell and weren't worth a damn back in the day? Has anyone considered it might take time to get this new stuff working at least a bit better?
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"Can Sony Make HD Radio A Winner?"

"So, the old consumers don't want HD. Young consumers think the concept is laughable. Big retailers can't sell it. And radio companies won't invest in it."

http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com/2007/05/can-sony-make-hd-radio-winner.html

What's the point - consumers are totally apathetic towards HD Radio. ??? And, who's in a better position than Jerry, who has daily contact with Gen Y.
 
MasterTheseus said:
We are here and on other boards as an attempt to communicate and improve our products and not here to let someone simply crap on our attempts to do so.
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Here's the $200 Sangean HDT-1's empty box:

http://www.hudson.arrl.org/newsletterawards/2007/200701pcaranewsletter0207.pdf

Here's the horrific $100 Grundig/Tecsun/Eton S350's empty box:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grundig_Tecsun_Eton_garbage

And here's a $400 Eton E1 packed full of quality electronics:

http://bcl.myetoys.com/Article/UploadFiles/200509/20050903142554781.JPG

It's very obvious that iBiquity's HD chipset and licensing fees are eating up a good part of your empty box, and that HD Radio manufacturers are putting very little effort into producing quality electronics.
 
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