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Satellite TV Stations

gregg75

gregg75

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WYMT-TV
WYMT-TV 57 Hazard Kentucky and WKYT-TV 27 Lexington are an example of this. As far as I know the programming is the exactly the same except for local news (and maybe a local music show or something thrown in).

I do know that in the past in states like Minnesota one CBS station would be seen in 3 or more cities/markets (with different station I.D.s and channels).
 
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KQED Channel 9 and KQED+?

Capital Public Radio 90.9 FM Sacramento KXJZ -FM the NPR News/Talker in Sacramento would have its stream and its 90.9 signal (Sacramento, Yolo and Solano county feed for NPR News Talk) I'd themselves as KXJZ.

But in Stockton, Tracy and Modesto KUOP is the NPR News/talk feed for the North San Joaquin Valley but its station I'd is limited to 91.3 FM and its owned by Sacramento State University and Capital Public Radio and carries the same feed from Sacramento but with different I'd.
 
gregg75 said:
WYMT-TV 57 Hazard Kentucky and WKYT-TV 27 Lexington are an example of this. As far as I know the programming is the exactly the same except for local news (and maybe a local music show or something thrown in).
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Their program schedules are vastly different, even though WYMT is a semi-satellite.
WKYT: http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCSGrid.do?stnNum=11629&channel=9&aid=tvschedule
WYMT: http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCSGrid.do?stnNum=12015&channel=7&aid=tvschedule
 
In the old days (late 60s-early 70s), WLW-T CIncinnati, WLW-D Dayton and WLW-C, Columbus were essentially the same station. NBC affiliates but carried Paul Dixon 9-10:30, Phil Donahue 10:30-11:30 (originating from Dayton) after breaking for Hollywood Squares it was back to Avco for Bob Braun's 50-50 Club.
 
gregg75 said:
I do know that in the past in states like Minnesota one CBS station would be seen in 3 or more cities/markets (with different station I.D.s and channels).
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nope. All 3 are in the Minneapolis market
WCCO 4 Minneapolis
KCCO 7 Alexandria
KCCW 12 Walker (Bemidji)

years ago 7 & 12 were its own market. 7 was KCMT and 12 was KNMT and they were NBC/ABC affiliates. Then the Minneapolis market started gobbling up counties in the Alexandria/Walker market. They did change to CBS in early 80s and WCCO bought them in late 80s. They did have a small insert of news on 7 & 12 and some local commercials but that ended in the 2000s.
 
gr8oldies said:
In the old days (late 60s-early 70s), WLW-T CIncinnati, WLW-D Dayton and WLW-C, Columbus were essentially the same station. NBC affiliates but carried Paul Dixon 9-10:30, Phil Donahue 10:30-11:30 (originating from Dayton) after breaking for Hollywood Squares it was back to Avco for Bob Braun's 50-50 Club.
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As did WLW-I (as it was listed in TV Guide) Channel 13 Indianapolis, but it was an ABC affiliate then, not NBC. They carried the Crosley/AVCO programming at the same time as the Ohio stations AFAIK. But did WLW-A Atlanta also air these shows during their Crosley days?

And don't forget Midwestern Hayride on Saturday nights, also airing on all "WLW Stations."
 
For a time in the late 80's WWCP Channel 8 in Johnstown, PA, and Channel 23 in Altoona (then WWPC, now WATM) were satellites of each other. Both basically simulcasting an independent schedule. Eventually 8 became a Fox affiliate and 23 went to ABC.
 
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If we are just talking satellite TV stations (not translators) Minnesota has a few of them (due the the Mpls market being so huge)
Besides the WCCO example above KSTP (ABC) has 2 satellite stations....KSAX 42 (Alexandria) and KRWF (Redwood Falls). Much like the WCCO example KSAX/KRWF use to have separate commercials and a 5 minute news/wx cut in. That is no longer the case
WFTC RF29 (Fox/My/Movies!) is also on KFTC RF26 in Bemidji.
KAWE Bemidji & KAWB Brainerd (PBS)

Duluth has 2 of them
WIRT Hibbing RF13/PSIP same rebroadcasts WDIO Duluth RF10/PSIP same 100% of the time. They ID as 10/13 and in an ironic twist in Duluth 10 is on cable 13 and in Hibbing (and parts of the Iron Range) 13 is on cable 10 (analog spot)
KBJR Superior/Duluth NBC (and soon to have CBS as sub) RF19 PSIP 6 has semi-satellite KRII Chisholm RF11 psip same. A few commercials and a 5-7 minute news/weather cut in is all that it is.
 
Satellite TV stations in my opinion were the impetus to create the Nebraskan monstrosity known as the Lincoln & Hastings-Kearney-Grand Island market. Recent low power additions have spread signals into the North Platte market, historically a stand-alone market consisting of KNOP-TV an NBC affiliate on channel 2.

I'm not listing the -CD or -LP permutations of the stations below. It's just too confusing and drawn out. The history of this market is perplexing to me as a non-resident.

The stand-alone stations:
KLKN-TV 8 Lincoln ABC
KHNL 5 Hastings SonLife, previously NBC until 2014 purchase by Gray which moved the NBC affiliation to the .2 of KOLN/KGIN below

The satellite players:
KOLN-TV 10 Lincoln, KGIN-TV 11 Grand Island CBS .1, NBC .2
KHGI-TV 13 Kearney, KWNB-TV 6 Hayes Center ABC .1, FOX .2(through co-owned KFXL-TV 51 Lincoln FOX only, ABC in Lincoln through KLKN) The ABC stations identify as NTV, FOX as FOX Nebraska KFXL. All programming for the ABC and FOX feeds originate from the main studios just outside Axtell NE, population 736. This group was acquired by Sinclair earlier this year. I don't know if the ABC/NTV feed shows on OTA as 13.1, and FOX Nebraska as 51.1. That's a question best left to someone in market.

And of course there's the statewide PBS network, NET Nebraska Educational Television. As there are a lot of statewide PBS nets, it isn't that unusual.

There's a similar mess in South Dakota, with Kelo-land et al but someone else can sort that out.
 
In the state of Hawaii, I think that Maui and Hawaii's televison stations are just satellites of Honolulu stations with no local programming (or commercials?) of their own.
 
WSWG/ch. 44 in Valdosta GA (Moultrie GA city of license) serves the Albany GA market as their CBS affiliate and is a semi-satellite of WCTV/ch. 6, out of Tallahassee (Thomasville GA city of license).
 
If WNNE-TV still has any White River Junction identity, you could've fooled me! I was in W.R.J. for a night two weeks ago. The in-room cable carried WPTZ-TV (NBC) channel 5 of Plattsburgh, NY, down to the "5" bug in the corner, New York Lottery Numbers/Win 4 drawing, "WPTZ - Plattsburgh/Burlington/Montreal" ID on the screen and all. Their sales office, from what I was told, was in the basement of an American Legion Hall. Funny, I walked right past that area and saw nothing there.
 
unclehonkey said:
Duluth has 2 of them
WIRT Hibbing RF13/PSIP same rebroadcasts WDIO Duluth RF10/PSIP same 100% of the time. They ID as 10/13 and in an ironic twist in Duluth 10 is on cable 13 and in Hibbing (and parts of the Iron Range) 13 is on cable 10 (analog spot)
KBJR Superior/Duluth NBC (and soon to have CBS as sub) RF19 PSIP 6 has semi-satellite KRII Chisholm RF11 psip same. A few commercials and a 5-7 minute news/weather cut in is all that it is.
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Forgot the PBS there. ;)
WRPT RF31/PSIP same is a satellite of WDSE RF8/PSIP same Duluth
 
joebtsflk1 said:
There's a similar mess in South Dakota, with Kelo-land et al but someone else can sort that out.
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actually it isnt that bad
CBS is KELO 11 (11) Sioux Falls with satellites KDLO 3 (3) Florence and KPLO 13 (6) Reliance. It is also on semi-satellite KCLO 16 (15) Rapid City
PBS is statewide
ABC is on KSFY 13 (13) Sioux Falls and satellites KPRY 19 (4) Pierre and formerly KABY 9 (9) Aberdeen. KABY's tower collapsed and I dont think they rebuilt it.
NBC & FOX are different between the markets

but....in Rapid City
KOTA ABC 7 (3) has a satellite KHSD 5 (5) in Lead. They also have a satellite in Scottsluff, NE KNEP (formerly KDUH) 7 (4). They also had a satellite in Sheridan, WY KSGW 13 (12) but that has switched over to a satellite of KCWY 13 NBC Wyoming

KEVN FOX 23 (7) has a satellite in Lead KHSD 5 (5). FOX is on -1, ABC -2
 
Scottsbluff, NE is basically "satellite city"

ABC is on KNEP (formerly KDUH) which is a satellite of KOTA Rapid City, SD
CBS is on KSTF 29 (10) which is a semi-satellite of KGWN 30 (5) Cheyenne, WY
PBS is statewide network
NBC is on KNEP-DT2 AND KSTF-DT2. It is a semi-satellite of KNOP 2 North Platte with local commercials and news. Formerly NBC was on KSTF-DT2 via KCWY Cheyenne

no FOX OTA
 
North Dakota is another state with satellite stations, semi-satellite stations and even semi-satellites of semi-satellite stations ;)

Fargo/Grand Forks
ABC...WDAZ 8 (8) is a semi-satellite of WDAY 21 (6)
FOX...KVRR 19 (15) has 3 satellite stations KJRR 7 (7) Jamestown, KBRR 10 (10) Grand Forks/Thief River Falls, MN and KNRR 12 (12) Pembina. The last 2 have some local commercials

Western NoDak which is Minot, Bismarck, Dickinson, Williston
CBS KXMB 12 (12) Bismarck has satellite KXMA 19 (2) Dickinson. They also have semi-satellite KXMC 13 (13) Minot which is broadcast on satellite KXMD 14 (11) Williston.
ABC KBMY 17 (17) Bismarck has semi-satellite KMCY 14 (14) Minot (different news and commercials)
NBC KFYR 31 (5) Bismarck has satellite KQCD 7 (7) Dickinson. KFYR also has semi-satellite KMOT 10 (10) in Minot (separate newscast). KUMV 8 (8) Williston is a semi-satellite of KMOT (a 20 minute newscast). So KUMV is a semi-satellite of KMOT which itself is also a semi-satellite of KYFR :)
FOX is on the subchannel of the NBC stations and are the same including news. KFYR is the "mothership"

PBS is state run
 
unclehonkey said:
actually it isnt that bad
CBS is KELO 11 (11) Sioux Falls with satellites KDLO 3 (3) Florence and KPLO 13 (6) Reliance. It is also on semi-satellite KCLO 16 (15) Rapid City
PBS is statewide
ABC is on KSFY 13 (13) Sioux Falls and satellites KPRY 19 (4) Pierre and formerly KABY 9 (9) Aberdeen. KABY's tower collapsed and I dont think they rebuilt it.
NBC & FOX are different between the markets

but....in Rapid City
KOTA ABC 7 (3) has a satellite KHSD 5 (5) in Lead. They also have a satellite in Scottsluff, NE KNEP (formerly KDUH) 7 (4). They also had a satellite in Sheridan, WY KSGW 13 (12) but that has switched over to a satellite of KCWY 13 NBC Wyoming

KEVN FOX 23 (7) has a satellite in Lead KHSD 5 (5). FOX is on -1, ABC -2
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Did a couple quick google searches and checked the FCC CDBS Search. The last application showing for KABY is January 2015 to remain silent. According to the story I read, it didn't collapse but had to be taken down because it wasn't in good shape.
http://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/threads/kaby-abc-aberdeen-sd-off-the-air.346559/
 
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