Saturday Morning 105.3 Changes

[JRG440]

I think we have all missed the point here. Number one, the fact remains that The Fan was never needed, OR wanted for that matter. After 14 months post flip, there are still the "die hard" haters of the station, (some even on this discussion board....maybe even some in the room I am typing this in, but I digress, some even work there still). Number two, after this time, you would think that if the station were going to be a success, it would have climbed out of the basement in ratings, it hasn't. Bottom line is, in the entertainment industry, you give the people what they want, and not force something they don't want down their throats.

Live 105.3, for all it's faults, was a very popular radio station, and it was taken away from the fans of that station because someone thought it was a good idea to fix something that wasn't broke. Maybe we can all agree, that the Fan sucks, it will always suck, and no matter what they do to tweak the format to make it more like what it use to be...it will never be what it once was. So, lets just quit talking about it, let it die it's death, and we can move on.

 

[ead061]

Well said.

 

[bdabagia]

Live 105.3, for all it's faults, was a very popular radio station, and it was taken away from the fans of that station because someone thought it was a good idea to fix something that wasn't broke. Maybe we can all agree, that the Fan sucks, it will always suck, and no matter what they do to tweak the format to make it more like what it use to be...it will never be what it once was. So, lets just quit talking about it, let it die it's death, and we can move on.

It's = it is
Its = belonging to "it"
Jeezus, it's hard to take a post seriously when its writer doesn't know the language.

 

[satradio]

It's = it is
Its = belonging to "it"
Jeezus, it's hard to take a post seriously when its writer doesn't know the language.

Really? Maybe there's a punctuation forum for you to post your critiques. Luckily, I don't visit RADIO-INFO.com to check for apostrophe use.

Anyway, I agree w/ JRG, the flip was never needed. I loved the talk format (except Russ) as did many of my friends, and we all miss it. I think now that the FAN has FAILED and the station has those contracts with the Cowboys, they may not know how to end it. Going back to talk is an awful lot of crow to eat.

 

[salemjedi54]

How do we know that 105.3 has failed? I'm not the station's biggest supporter, but only the station management knows if its successfull or not. Their ratings may be horrible, but if they are making budget and sales goals then why would they flip it. Only station management knows what their performance goals are and how long they have to grow their audience with the current line up.

 

[satradio]

How do we know that 105.3 has failed? I'm not the station's biggest supporter, but only the station management knows if its successfull or not. Their ratings may be horrible, but if they are making budget and sales goals then why would they flip it. Only station management knows what their performance goals are and how long they have to grow their audience with the current line up.

I guess you could be right...if you set your goals low enough, it's easier to be successful. I just don't know a lot of radio stations that use that particular model. The ratings and number of listeners are usually what attracts advertisers and their dollars. And being way down the list of both with your targeted demographic a year after a major flip, plus numerous line-up and staff changes, usually equals a fail for most statons. But the FAN could be different.

 

[tomficker]

This showed up in the google cache version of john clay wolfe's explanation on leaving the fan....it has since been deleted or at least modified. I stumbled on it by accident searching for something else entirely.

The Fan is struggling, as is all radio, the PD there is on a mission to repair it. I wanted to be one of the founding nameplates of building that station to what it could be, Bigby didn’t want me becuase I did not have enough experience. I left for Rock and Roll, and 6 times the cume listenership.

I love the Eagle, grew up on it. I know my show will be better if I’m given the lee way to produce the show that I have in my head. Chris Ryan, PD at the KEGL, encouranges that. Talk about walking into a 180 degree environment. For crying out loud, Bigby wouldn’t even let me pick my own intro music, have prerecorded annoucer outro’s, or use any sound effects. They wouldn’t allow Greggo to guest host, they wouldn’t allow alot of things. The forced me to have Frazier Maxwell as my co host, and he made me pay him $200 an hour just to sit there and make me feel nervous. It was a very odd circumstance that I choose to work in, and I did it becuase I beleived with time, I could prove that I could make this work.


I believe John 100 percent and I can totally see the scenario he presented with having pay Frazier on the side. I'm sorry but all these shows are sleazy. John may be a great guy...maybe Tammy and David from Autoflex are nice people...and all the rest of the many shill shows on WBAP, KRLD, KLIF and others..the fact is these show are still illegitimate infomercial garbage. I don't fault the hosts, I fault the concept. As someone who has served some time in the Saturday/Sunday morning news talk control rooms over the last decade, I do believe the carousel of hosts who parade in every hour or half hour to put on their latest Marconian effort mean well but...we'd be all better off if station stuck to quality programming that fit their format or the complete opposite and run the latest Focus factor or penile pill infomercial. I think this hybrid approach of trying to legitimize this paid crap is insulting.

here's the unedited cache link
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...Frazier+Maxwell"+cbs&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

and the more watered down version
http://wolferadio11.wordpress.com/2010/01/

 

[ead061]

Most interesting comment:
The Fan is struggling, as is all radio, the PD there is on a mission to repair it.

So does that mean a format change is coming?

 

[Nik]

Most interesting comment:
The Fan is struggling, as is all radio, the PD there is on a mission to repair it.

So does that mean a format change is coming?

Probably just means whenever the guy makes a change and it doesn't seem to make a positive impact after 30 days, he changes it again.

 

[metroneck]

He'd been asking Bigby for the jaggers show. He got greggo and another dude lined up as his crew. He repitched Bigby again, few last dec and got another no. John had me convinced that he could turn the fan around. Bigbys a dumass for letting him leave. If Wolfe ever gets on weekday air, you'll see another Howard stern Russ Martin type movement begin

 

[little1]

Yeah, I'm with you, i can't understand why Bigby didn't take a guy who's never carried anything more than a couple of hours on a Saturday morning, and put him up against a bunch of "spares" like Kidd Kraddick, Terry Dorsey, Dunham and Miller, Jody Dean, Hal Jay, etc.

I mean, what have ANY of those people done compared to a couple of hours on a Saturday morning????

What kind of ratings have any of those people drawn that can compare to what Wolfe has gotten?

What kind of money have those people made for their stations compared to the boatloads of cash Wolfe's made for 105.3???

You know, I don't doubt Bigby is a dumbass, but calling him a dumbass for not putting an unproven (and from what I've heard, uninteresting) guy in AM drive destroys your cedibility...

 

[metroneck]

You're right, Bigby's a genius, and The Fan is a Ratings monster. so was David Lee Roth....Also, Gregg Williams never got any ratings, he sucks too.

Don't develop young talent, just syndicate everything with Casey Kasem's children and previous Rockstars. Wonder if Nikki Six ever did coke with Casey's little kid?

I personally don't give a shit, it's all good fun. Looking for some engineering work though, if anyone has any projects?

 

[Richard Pryor]

HAHAHA

Wish I had seen this topic sooner, The Fan will NOT be changing formats any time soon.

 

[little1]

You're right, Bigby's a genius,

You missed where I said I don't doubt Bigby's a dumbass***. He's picked crappy hosts (a non-sports Am drive host, a failed (@ ESPN) midday host paired with a radio neophyte, and 3 yankees who sound like yankees AND are all very generic radio journeymen)
he's told them to concentrate on Cowboys (and know they're wondering why nobodywants to talk anything But Cowboys)(and I've heard 3 of their shows (Arnie a coupel days ago, barsky& Greg yesterday and Jagger this morning all discuss the same thing- where's teh calls for these other sports, etc,)
and their imaging and positioning absolutely SUCKS.

***Okay, he MAY be a genius. He's taken a couple of stations to high ratings. But he also didn't have the Ticket to deal with in those other cases. From what I've heard, Bigby was the mentor to Mike Thompson, the Ticket PD credited with getting them to be 'big market, big time". Bigby's problem is thathe's never had to fight a station that's using 'his' old playbook...

and The Fan is a Ratings monster.

Link? Did I say that?

h....Also, Gregg Williams never got any ratings, he sucks too.

Have you seen theHardline's ratings since greggo left? They're up, IIRC...

 

[metroneck]

I don't buy that 'genius' talk regarding Tom Bigby programmer at large. If he were genius, he'd have a better plan that 'this is what we did in detroit and philly. He's not a yankee, his from Lousiana for pete's sake, and knows the terrain.

OK, 'we at 105.3 with our big CBS stick want to outticket the ticket' ok, fine. Do it...genius

Step one, get their playbook. do you think Greg williams has thier playbook, we'll of course he does. Does Ben and Skin, of course they don't. did richard hunter have the secret recipie..not a chance. The founding fathers have the secret sauce, and 105.3 has continued to recruit the 2nd and 3rd string talent.

A Genius, would have written a check for either the hardline or the muser line up. Write the check, buy the format, then build around it. Don't think you're so smart you can grab their rejects and prosper, and when that fails go grab the yankees to finish the job. Kick your #1 host in the head, but keep paying him...for TWO years! Have an openly homosexual male as your morning star on a station whos claim to fame is the final word on Americas team of the last mainstream gladiator sport.


105.3 may have a curse on it from all those tower technicians that died in the name of young country.

 

[JRG440]

Live 105.3, for all it's faults, was a very popular radio station, and it was taken away from the fans of that station because someone thought it was a good idea to fix something that wasn't broke. Maybe we can all agree, that the Fan sucks, it will always suck, and no matter what they do to tweak the format to make it more like what it use to be...it will never be what it once was. So, lets just quit talking about it, let it die it's death, and we can move on.

It's = it is
Its = belonging to "it"
Jeezus, it's hard to take a post seriously when its writer doesn't know the language.

I'm sorry, I didn't think that I was going to be graded on my grammar. Well, let me say this in plain simple English...I guess I struck a nerve or you wouldn't have attacked me like that. Either way, you got the point, as I got your point that you are an asshole. So I guess we are both even.

 

[flipper123]

You're right, Bigby's a genius, and The Fan is a Ratings monster. so was David Lee Roth....Also, Gregg Williams never got any ratings, he sucks too.

Don't develop young talent, just syndicate everything with Casey Kasem's children and previous Rockstars. Wonder if Nikki Six ever did coke with Casey's little kid?

I personally don't give a shit, it's all good fun. Looking for some engineering work though, if anyone has any projects?

Agreed, Bigby's a geeeenius. LOL classic post!