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SATX Gets New Spanish Talk AM/FM Simulcast

DToTheJ said:
The "Radio Formula Network" on 102.3 FM and 1500 AM "offers local news and entertainment segments, followed by well-known syndicated radio personalities based out of Mexico."

Now that's bizarre. In a Hispanic market that is highly assimilated, why would anyone want to listen to programming out of Mexico City that is mostly about the internal affairs of Mexico?
 
DavidEduardo said:
Now that's bizarre. In a Hispanic market that is highly assimilated, why would anyone want to listen to programming out of Mexico City that is mostly about the internal affairs of Mexico?
Because they have family there and are concerned about what's happening in the country?

Although from what the English language media here says repeatedly, candor about the drug war is not a strong suit of the media in Mexico.

Neither of those are very strong signals, so perhaps this is a niche meant to attract upscale Mexican nationals with second homes in SA? Supposedly there are a lot of folks like that in Stone Oak.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Now that's bizarre.

Not only that, it's illegal. As discussed recently on this board the San Antonio translator had been relaying KROB (AM) from Robstown/Corpus Christi. That was in violation of FCC rules and so is this latest arrangement, in that it fails both tests: the service area for the 102.3 signal lies outside of the 2mVm contour of KBRN and it's outside the 25-mile radius from the KBRN transmitter in Boerne.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Now that's bizarre. In a Hispanic market that is highly assimilated, why would anyone want to listen to programming out of Mexico City that is mostly about the internal affairs of Mexico?

Have you checked the program schedule for Radio Formula USA? Comedy, health & beauty, paranormal, women's magazine, sports. Only one two-hour block is news and that's popular anchorman Joaquin Lopez-Dorriga's show.
 
fredcantu said:
DavidEduardo said:
Now that's bizarre. In a Hispanic market that is highly assimilated, why would anyone want to listen to programming out of Mexico City that is mostly about the internal affairs of Mexico?

Have you checked the program schedule for Radio Formula USA? Comedy, health & beauty, paranormal, women's magazine, sports. Only one two-hour block is news and that's popular anchorman Joaquin Lopez-Dorriga's show.

Fórmula has had brief stays on a number of US stations, in markets as big as LA. Uniformly, they got no numbers. Same kind of shows, mostly the same talents. And all the shows are centered on the politics, economy, lifestyle and culture of Mexico. It's just not relevant.
 
daypart said:
DavidEduardo said:
Now that's bizarre. In a Hispanic market that is highly assimilated, why would anyone want to listen to programming out of Mexico City that is mostly about the internal affairs of Mexico?
Because they have family there and are concerned about what's happening in the country?

It does not work that way. While there may be some interest in information, the only information most immigrants want is about family, and they can now get that with a phone card or a calling plan.

Remember that most immigrants from Mexico come when they are young... 16 to mid to late 20's. How many people in that age groups have an interest in news and information? Once an immigrant has lived in the US for many years, the bond with the "old country2 weaken.

A group of Cd Juárez broadcasters did a study several decades ago with the university in El Paso. They wanted to prove that Arbitron was wrong and that there was less listening to the El Paso Spanish language stations and more to the Mexican side stations. The survey showed the opposite: those on the El Paso side did not want to hear about the country that they had left and which could not offer them a future, and they did not care about anything other than things that affected family still there, such as floods and earthquakes.

All the research I did while doing talk in markets like LA and Chicago confirmed that finding. Other than following soccer teams, and wanting some information of the broadest kind, there was really no interest in programming from or about Mexico. Radio Unica, a failed US talk network, proved the same as the shows they obtained from Mexico or coproduced there did very poorly.

Although from what the English language media here says repeatedly, candor about the drug war is not a strong suit of the media in Mexico.

And how much talk about drug trafficing do you think a young immigrant wants to hear?

Neither of those are very strong signals, so perhaps this is a niche meant to attract upscale Mexican nationals with second homes in SA? Supposedly there are a lot of folks like that in Stone Oak.

Of course, non-permanent residents would never get on the "two year commitment" PPM panel.

You bring up a very important point: listeners to talk in Mexico are more upscale and older than the typical immigrant. In fact, talk does not do very well in the D and E socioeconomic levels and among those under 25 or 30 and up.
 
Is this station still run by Gerald Benavides?

And do the radio formula people in Mexico know it's illegal?
 
fredcantu said:
IIRC-- In general Spanish language talk has not done well anywhere in the US outside of maybe Miami.

WADO in New York was a major facility through the early 2000's, until running paid programming produced more revenue than good, but expensive, news and talk.

KTNQ in LA did 100% local and live talk from 1995 to the early 2000's. At a number of times, it tied or beat KFI in the sales demos and was top 10 12+ in an 87 station market. It was expensive, and the format did not develop the kind of advertiser acceptance needed to sustain it... and its 50 person staff, including round the clock news, stringers, correspondents in Mexico and El Salvador, etc.

The format can do very well when well done, but today's economy just won't allow the kind of costs needed to do live and local talk today. And networks like Radio Visa, Radio Unica, Radio Labio that were not local just can't create the local buzz and presence needed.
 
Surprised they lasted this long. I was expecting them to go before the end of 2011.

But is this really a talk station? About half the time when I turn it on they're playing music, sort of a spanish soft rock it sounds like. Maybe they're keeping up in the ratings by playing the music too?
 
KevanGC said:
Surprised they lasted this long. I was expecting them to go before the end of 2011.

But is this really a talk station? About half the time when I turn it on they're playing music, sort of a spanish soft rock it sounds like. Maybe they're keeping up in the ratings by playing the music too?

It sounds kind of like the La Romatica days of KROM 92.9 music wise. I can hear it faintly by the airport which makes since because their offices are on Broadway and Sunset
 
Curious, how is Radio Formula 102.3 doing after over a year of being on the air now?
Are they building an audience, about to flop, or just barely hanging in there? My guess is one of the latter.
 
Still up and running... I guess it's not doing too badly after all.
 
Still up and running... I guess it's not doing too badly after all.

It gets a 0.1 12+, and reportedly billed less than $10 thousand a month last year.
 
I don't know much about radio ratings and stuff, but that seems pretty low. I wonder why they don't just convert it to online if it's not billing. Online must be much cheaper than renting out an FM radio station.
 
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